Vader

X1 title

Lone wolf/Predator

Proton Rockets<didn't think this through, too used to auto including it.

Engine Upgrade

Adv Tar Comp

36pts

What can stop or top this?

The Boat, which will arrive some time around 2017

probably the same thing minus the rockets. 3 points for +1 die without the guaranteed crit does not seem really worth it

probably the same thing minus the rockets. 3 points for +1 die without the guaranteed crit does not seem really worth it

Good point, I'm just so used to putting it on him, corrected.

AdvTC and Expose. Will 1 shot an X-Wing at R1 with a good roll for Vader and a bad roll on the X-Wing. And unlike PRockets it's reusable more than once.

I had been doing two auto hits for Vader and just rolling to see if the hits got upgraded to crits. Now FFG says for a whole great big point you get an auto crit.

Me likes DAT.

AdvTC and Expose. Will 1 shot an X-Wing at R1 with a good roll for Vader and a bad roll on the X-Wing. And unlike PRockets it's reusable more than once.

AC on Vader is always 2 hits (roll the dice just to see if you get crits) and your 2 actions can be anything you want, turning Vader into a super tank. I would take the points from Expose and put them on other EPTs, such as Outmaneuver.

Vader

X1 title

Lone wolf

Engine Upgrade

Adv Tar Comp

Tempest+title+Acc Corrector x3

I don't need luck.

AdvTC and Expose. Will 1 shot an X-Wing at R1 with a good roll for Vader and a bad roll on the X-Wing. And unlike PRockets it's reusable more than once.

AC on Vader is always 2 hits (roll the dice just to see if you get crits) and your 2 actions can be anything you want, turning Vader into a super tank. I would take the points from Expose and put them on other EPTs, such as Outmaneuver.

There's a number of more practical options for EPTs and combinations over Expose, AC Outmaneuver, AC Ruthlessness, ect.

The point is Vader can potentially 1-Shot an X-Wing which is thematic for 5pts. and he has a second action without taking EI or PTL.

It's essentially reuseable ordnance

Vader

X1 title

Lone wolf

Engine Upgrade

Adv Tar Comp

Tempest+title+Acc Corrector x3

I don't need luck.

That's the build I landed on as well. Almost a little worried Darth will now be able to out-Soontir Soontir.

Darth Vader (29)
Outmaneuver (3)
Proton Rockets (3)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 40

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I'm still keeping Proton Rockets because ships with lots of sheilds dont suffer crits at the start and i have one shoted a cloaked phantom (cheak out my you tube channel its funny batrep 9) and other ships with them, Outmaneuver and Engine i think are the best for him or at least with the way i play.

but i realy want to play Maarek now

Darth Vader (29)

Outmaneuver (3)

Proton Rockets (3)

Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

Engine Upgrade (4)

TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 40

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I'm still keeping Proton Rockets because ships with lots of sheilds dont suffer crits at the start and i have one shoted a cloaked phantom (cheak out my you tube channel its funny batrep 9) and other ships with them, Outmaneuver and Engine i think are the best for him or at least with the way i play.

but i realy want to play Maarek now

YES> MAAREK. I've never used him. Just played Major Rhymer today though. Super fun.

Oh. A note: Ordnance is still garbage. And so is Major Rhymer.

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Can someone tell me: When you suffer dice results that didnt get canceled by evade dice, do you get crits first or hits?

Say I hit an X with hit hit crit. X rolls 2 blanks. Do the hits go to erasing the shields, and then the crit eating through tasty hull?

Darth Vader (29)

Outmaneuver (3)

Proton Rockets (3)

Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

Engine Upgrade (4)

TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 40

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

I'm still keeping Proton Rockets because ships with lots of sheilds dont suffer crits at the start and i have one shoted a cloaked phantom (cheak out my you tube channel its funny batrep 9) and other ships with them, Outmaneuver and Engine i think are the best for him or at least with the way i play.

but i realy want to play Maarek now

YES> MAAREK. I've never used him. Just played Major Rhymer today though. Super fun.

Oh. A note: Ordnance is still garbage. And so is Major Rhymer.

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Can someone tell me: When you suffer dice results that didnt get canceled by evade dice, do you get crits first or hits?

Say I hit an X with hit hit crit. X rolls 2 blanks. Do the hits go to erasing the shields, and then the crit eating through tasty hull?

hits first then crits

now i want to do a list with Maarek and Rhymer

Important question - can he actually take the title? His pilot card is explicitly a TIE Advanced x1, not a TIE Advanced, and the title is TIE Advanced only....

Important question - can he actually take the title? His pilot card is explicitly a TIE Advanced x1, not a TIE Advanced, and the title is TIE Advanced only....

I assume he can. They even mentioned in the article how this upgrade will make him better.

Would be shocked if not.

Important question - can he actually take the title? His pilot card is explicitly a TIE Advanced x1, not a TIE Advanced, and the title is TIE Advanced only....

By this logic Vader can't move at all, since there is no dial that says Tie Advanced x1.

Somalian pirates stopping the ship.

Dang - ninja'ed.

He will be cool with stay on target, EU and advanced sensors. Add a procket just for fun as well!

He will be cool with stay on target, EU and advanced sensors.

No, you wouldn't be able to do the two actions from Vader.

Also, i don't really like stressing advanceds, they are not interceptors.

Also about the build itself, it depends on what is flying with him, but i prefer predator. That way you can focus + TL, you are likely to get 2-3 hits (depending on range) and then add a crit from the TL. Same for Lone wolf or predator, if your list is able to stay at range 1-2 with vader from its buddy, then go for lone wolf over predator, that reroll on 1 agility dice is pure gold on a 3 dice agility ship.

Thing with Lone Wolf though, is that it'll make Vader nigh unkillable in a 1-on-1 situation. Advanced Targeting Computer can make him hit hard, and Sensor Jammer + Proton Rockets will give him a powerful alpha strike as well as further increase his unkillability.

Proton Rockets will fall out of use on him as 3 pts for +1 dice and being vulnerable to action denial is not a good deal.

I'd put an ion Pulse on him so he can go head to head with something scary, zap it, then barrel roll out of arc and blast apart.

Vader

X1 title

Lone wolf

Engine Upgrade

Adv Tar Comp

Tempest+title+Acc Corrector x3

I don't need luck.

That's the build I landed on as well. Almost a little worried Darth will now be able to out-Soontir Soontir.

Not with that dial and Soontir's access to 3 actions and (soon) autothrusters.

Vader is still going to be vulnerable to turrets, especially with ATC since he wants that lock and will have to give up at least one action for it at some point.

Still, he's going to be awesome and I'm looking forward to this, especially since I've played him since prockets became available.

Vader

X1 title

Lone wolf

Engine Upgrade

Adv Tar Comp

Tempest+title+Acc Corrector x3

I don't need luck.

That's the build I landed on as well. Almost a little worried Darth will now be able to out-Soontir Soontir.

Not with that dial and Soontir's access to 3 actions and (soon) autothrusters.

Vader is still going to be vulnerable to turrets, especially with ATC since he wants that lock and will have to give up at least one action for it at some point.

Still, he's going to be awesome and I'm looking forward to this, especially since I've played him since prockets became available.

The dial is more or less the same. 1-banks instead of 1-turns, which isn't strictly worse. The main difference is the lack of green turns, but as Vader doesn't gain stress from his ability, it's kind of moot.

Vader

X1 title

Lone wolf

Engine Upgrade

Adv Tar Comp

Tempest+title+Acc Corrector x3

I don't need luck.

That's the build I landed on as well. Almost a little worried Darth will now be able to out-Soontir Soontir.

Not with that dial and Soontir's access to 3 actions and (soon) autothrusters.

Vader is still going to be vulnerable to turrets, especially with ATC since he wants that lock and will have to give up at least one action for it at some point.

Still, he's going to be awesome and I'm looking forward to this, especially since I've played him since prockets became available.

The dial is more or less the same. 1-banks instead of 1-turns, which isn't strictly worse. The main difference is the lack of green turns, but as Vader doesn't gain stress from his ability, it's kind of moot.

You can get stress from a lot of other sources in the game at this point, so it's really not moot. There's also the option for two K-turns on the interceptor, though I admit I don't really use them, and I don't use the 4K on Vader, either.

As for 1 bank vs. 1 turn, the 1 turn is a far superior maneuver, imo, and I don't even think it's really that close. I think it's arguably the best maneuver in the game, especially on a ship with barrel roll. I never find myself really wishing for a 1-bank on the interceptor but I definitely find the lack of a 1 turn on the Advanced noticeable in a lot of situations.

Expose Vader at your own risk:

Vader, Expose, Title, ATC, EI

= 37 points

Thats basically like a HLC with one guaranteed crit.

Now ignore this Vader - and you will suffer ^^