wording of new X1 title

By Duraham, in X-Wing

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by "its" are they refering to the sensor or the entire TIEadv itself? I can see it both ways, eg. they do not want people to simply Chardaan their TIEadv and get a say 17pt Tempest or 25pt Vader. At the same time, kinda makes sense for your FCS Tempest to be 19pts instead of 21pts

Edited by Duraham

If you equip a sensor upgrade, you reduce its cost.

Its referring to the sensor upgrade, so the follow up should be about the sensor upgrade. I am not english native, so i might be wrong.

It's just the sensor. How would a 4 point reduction reduce the cost of a TIE advanced below 0? (Hence the Minimum of 0). It lets you play a 5 point sensor for 1, but a 2 point system still also only costs 0. The cost of teh Advanced itself remains unchanged.

Though the effect is the same as the reduction only triggers when you actually equip something in that slot.

It's not "you gain a systems upgrade slot. Reduce your squad points total by 4"

"If you equip a [system] upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 4 (to a minimum of 0)."

This is grammatically unambiguous. The discount is exclusively for the upgrade card described in the first clause. Further, the "minimum of 0" restriction would be meaningless if the discount applied to the ship's cost.

Edited by Sideslip

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by "its" are they refering to the sensor or the entire TIEadv itself? I can see it both ways, eg. they do not want people to simply Chardaan their TIEadv and get a say 17pt Tempest or 25pt Vader. At the same time, kinda makes sense for your FCS Tempest to be 19pts instead of 21pts

Best way to put it would be like this:

IF it reduced your ship points, then it would simply have a cost of -4, and grant you the systems icon. No more text.

However, thats not how it is.

I think it means the Sensor Upgrade. Accuracy Correcter is going to be an auto include on a lot of TIE Advanceds, which is exactally how I thought they should fix the ship. Consistant mid range damage will make it worth its points.

I really don't see how that is ambuguous, Bill Clinton...

The fact that they included the phrase "to a minimum of 0" should make this pretty self-explanatory.

I mourn over the fact that proper grammar is not taught in primary school anymore. Sideslip perfectly explained the structure of the sentence and its meaning. He would have received an A in my class.

Edited by Stone37

Rules for pronoun use in English state that any pronoun refers to most recent noun that it could represent. Since the phrase "If you equip a ***** upgrade" comes right before the use of the word "its", so as is pointed out before "its" refers to the upgrade no the ship itself.

The fact that they included the phrase "to a minimum of 0" should make this pretty self-explanatory.

Precisely. I'm not aware of a ship that costs 4 points or less.

Edited by s1n

The fact that they included the phrase "to a minimum of 0" should make this pretty self-explanatory.

Precisely. I'm not aware of a ship that costs 4 points or less.

25 ship swarm is OP :P

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by "its" are they refering to the sensor or the entire TIEadv itself? I can see it both ways, eg. they do not want people to simply Chardaan their TIEadv and get a say 17pt Tempest or 25pt Vader. At the same time, kinda makes sense for your FCS Tempest to be 19pts instead of 21pts

Can we talk about how beautiful the art is?

I think the text is pretty clear. The only game-relevant thing being referred to in the sentence is the system upgrade, therefore it is the system upgrade that reduces its squad point cost.

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by "its" are they refering to the sensor or the entire TIEadv itself? I can see it both ways, eg. they do not want people to simply Chardaan their TIEadv and get a say 17pt Tempest or 25pt Vader. At the same time, kinda makes sense for your FCS Tempest to be 19pts instead of 21pts

Can we talk about how beautiful the art is?

I wish the alt art cards were like the LCG alt art cards, more art, less decorations.

I think it means the Sensor Upgrade. Accuracy Correcter is going to be an auto include on a lot of TIE Advanceds, which is exactally how I thought they should fix the ship. Consistant mid range damage will make it worth its points.

Vader with outmaneuver, engine upgrade and a free sensor jammer or FCS? Yes please.

Edited by Audio Weasel