So how will Vader work on the Epic ship? Will he only damage the hull section he is on?
Probably get the Navigator treatment.
IMPERIAL HUGE SHIP ANNOUNCEMENT
Looks like Advanced Sensors makes Vader lose 1 action.
Am I reading both cards right?
Yup. Vader only gets a single action if he uses Advanced Sensors.
Looks like you TIE Advanced fans are about to be very happy.
AH! YES! YEEEEEEEES! MuhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAh
But im sorry to say that the epic ship sucks ... somehow
I mean ... solar wings like an interceptor? oh common!
If I get one, my first duty will be to snap them off ...
There's precedence in the canon:
Of course, the best reason to take two of these expansions:
First system upgrade ship to be able to run FCS + Cluster missiles.
Edited by SparklelordTempest Squadron Pilot w/ title, Adv. Targeting Computer, Proton Rocket (25) x 4
hehe
Or Vader w/title, ATC, Predator and 3 Tempests w/title and ATC with a point left over.
Looks like Advanced Sensors makes Vader lose 1 action.
Am I reading both cards right?
Yup. Vader only gets a single action if he uses Advanced Sensors.
Not necessarily a bad trade though, the Adv Sensors being free anyway.
So how will Vader work on the Epic ship? Will he only damage the hull section he is on?
He won't be doing anything. He will be in his advanced flying around, or you would be playing the wrong Vader xD
Original Raider. Shazam.
Anyone know the size (of the model) of the new Raider?
Yeah for saying they weren't going to do a bandaid fix this is kinda a bandaid move. Point reduction and new slot? yeaaahhh.
Also hate to admit it but this isn't power creep on the surface but at a deeper level it could be viewed as such. While I don't see FFG having to release a counter to this thing, it inarguably does increase the overall power level
NOT CMPLAINING REALLY! not complaining
Edited by ForceSensitiveAdv targeting computer rocks for advanced, here are some numbers:
Spend Target Lock:
2 Averages 1.5 hits
3 Averages 2.25 hits
Use Adv targeting Computer:
2 Averages 2 hits
3 Averages 2.5 hits
Its better on average, one of those hits is a crit on the adv targeting computer and it costs 1 Pt on the advanced.
On the B-Wing not so much (and it costs 5). Well designed designed combo of cards.
Spend Target Lock:
3 Averages 2.25 hits
4 Averages 3 hits
Use Adv targeting Computer:
3 Averages 2.5 hits
4 Averages 3 hits
So I was wondering, can you equipt TIE/X1 on Vader?
The card says TIE Advanced Only
Vader's card says TIE Advanced X1
All the others say TIE Advanced
Quick, what does it say on the dial he uses?
I thought of this as well...but the contention comes from what it says on the card...that dial came with his card so it is safe to assume that that would be the correct dial. The upgrade cards interact the pilot card...not the dial. General consensus seems to state these will work on vader. But I think further clarification is in order.
Yeah for saying they weren't going to do a bandaid fix this is kinda a bandaid move.
I don't see it like that. They're giving 0 point title that will go a long ways to fixing what's wrong the Advanced. Short of changing the base stats, there isn't much else they could do.
While I don't see FFG having to release a counter to this thing, it inarguably does increase the overall power level
Increasing the power level of a piece that is underpowered in the first place is not power creep.
For those asking about Vader Epic, the opponent chooses the section he damages. That's why he isn't badass on a CR-90.
I don't see it like that. They're giving 0 point title that will go a long ways to fixing what's wrong the Advanced. Short of changing the base stats, there isn't much else they could do.Yeah for saying they weren't going to do a bandaid fix this is kinda a bandaid move.
Well, they are not only giving a 0 point title, they are giving 0 points system upgrades, the only one costing anything costs 1 point.
It's still a very expensive ship.
I wonder what this does for the Tie Defender though. It's not used much as it is, and with this does it even still have a role?
Yeah for saying they weren't going to do a bandaid fix this is kinda a bandaid move.
I don't see it like that. They're giving 0 point title that will go a long ways to fixing what's wrong the Advanced. Short of changing the base stats, there isn't much else they could do.
While I don't see FFG having to release a counter to this thing, it inarguably does increase the overall power level
Increasing the power level of a piece that is underpowered in the first place is not power creep.
So I have 6 TIE Advanced.... guess I'll need 2 Raiders. How many epic points are they I wonder?
It looks slighty more powerful than a CR-90 so I'd say 3 rather than 2.
I thought of this as well...but the contention comes from what it says on the card...that dial came with his card so it is safe to assume that that would be the correct dial. The upgrade cards interact the pilot card...not the dial. General consensus seems to state these will work on vader. But I think further clarification is in order.
Except it doesn't work like that. Vader either counts as a TIE Advanced for everything, or he doesn't work with anything that refers to the TIE Advanced.
It's still a very expensive ship.
I wonder what this does for the Tie Defender though. It's not used much as it is, and with this does it even still have a role?
Yeah for saying they weren't going to do a bandaid fix this is kinda a bandaid move.
I don't see it like that. They're giving 0 point title that will go a long ways to fixing what's wrong the Advanced. Short of changing the base stats, there isn't much else they could do.
While I don't see FFG having to release a counter to this thing, it inarguably does increase the overall power level
Increasing the power level of a piece that is underpowered in the first place is not power creep.
Vessary is going to love flying with the Adv.
It's still a very expensive ship.
I wonder what this does for the Tie Defender though. It's not used much as it is, and with this does it even still have a role?
Absolutely nothing, since the defender is a cannon platform, and has a vastly different dial.
How/why is anyone even making the smallest complaint about a very specific fix for the most underpowered/underwhelming ship in the game right now? FFS guys.
Also, Defender is a 30+ pts ship, where as Advanced now competes with Interceptors on the Imperial Force Org. (20-30pts)
Edited by Bipolar PotterNice to finally see an Imperial huge ship.
All I can say is we'll need a new poster boy for underpowered ships. Maarek is back in the game!
It's still a very expensive ship.
I wonder what this does for the Tie Defender though. It's not used much as it is, and with this does it even still have a role?
Yeah for saying they weren't going to do a bandaid fix this is kinda a bandaid move.
I don't see it like that. They're giving 0 point title that will go a long ways to fixing what's wrong the Advanced. Short of changing the base stats, there isn't much else they could do.
While I don't see FFG having to release a counter to this thing, it inarguably does increase the overall power level
Increasing the power level of a piece that is underpowered in the first place is not power creep.
the defender still has the white k turn...it still has bad ass pilot abilities...the delta is still answering blocker. It still rolls 3 dice naturally...it will be fine. I still plan on flying it...all these adv buffs gives me a reason to consider the.adv again...and gives my adv playing Buddy all the more reason to run them.
Kinda funny...this is a huge ship release...vitiate of the buzz is about the accompanying fighter
Adv targeting computer rocks for advanced, here are some numbers:
Spend Target Lock:
2 Averages 1.5 hits
3 Averages 2.25 hits
Use Adv targeting Computer:
2 Averages 2 hits
3 Averages 2.5 hits
Its better on average, one of those hits is a crit on the adv targeting computer and it costs 1 Pt on the advanced.
On the B-Wing not so much (and it costs 5). Well designed designed combo of cards.
Spend Target Lock:
3 Averages 2.25 hits
4 Averages 3 hits
Use Adv targeting Computer:
3 Averages 2.5 hits
4 Averages 3 hits
The card says primary and advanced only. Makes my Kenyan Super Laser Build sad 
Wow, I was told by one of my fellow Imperials that Advances where gonna get fixed so I bought a 2nd one now I kinda wish I had bought a couple more lol. I also like how FFG went to Lucasarts and they created the Raider for us. Yeah I'm about to just sell some old game Armies I have so I can stock up on the store credit lol FFG your taking all my money and I'm not complaining a bit. Now if you could avoid Supply issues and get me my plastic crack asap I would be even happier! lol