Jan Ors Crew

By Hadak, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I didn't find an answer in the FAQ or this thread and Reddit didn't give a definitive answer. Who does the Jan Ors crew give an evade token to? Pg 19 of the rules state that if card language uses "you" then it refers to the specific ship.

If Han has the Jan Ors crew card and his ally Bandit Squadron performs a focus action, does the Bandit have the option of taking an evade token or because of the card language can Han receive an evade token and the Bandit gets nothing?

My friend and I can't come up with a satisfactory answer and it significantly impacts the card's usage depending on how it goes. Thanks for the help!

It has to go on the ship that gained the focus.

Jan says you may assign that ship an evade token instead. So while the "you" in the ability is the ship carrying Jan, the token ends up on the friendly ship that would have gained the focus token.

So to use your example, Han would use the ability to assign an evade token to the Bandit.

Jan says "Once per round, when a friendly ship at range 1-3 performs a focus action or would be assigned a focus token, you may assign an evade token instead." with no mention of that ship.

On page 19 of the Core Rulebook it says "Many card abilities use the word “you” to specifically reference that Ship card. Abilities on Ship cards cannot affect other ships unless explicitly specified by the ability. Likewise, Damage cards and Upgrade cards only affect the ship to which they are assigned, unless otherwise specified."

That's why I have questions. I feel like this means Han would get the evade token. Otherwise the language would have read more like "...that ship may be assigned an evade token instead." Does my reasoning make sense?

"with no mention of that ship."

Um.. no, it does say that. Just went and looked.

"with no mention of that ship."

Um.. no, it does say that. Just went and looked.

Not when discussing the evade token, it doesn't. Only for establishing criteria for the card ability to activate.

Look at Etahn's card language. It uses "you" in the language to establish range criteria for a trigger and then switches to impersonal language for who may take advantage of the ability.

Jan crew does the opposite, using impersonal language so that any friendly ship in range may act as trigger but switches to the personal language when it comes to who may take advantage.

"with no mention of that ship."

Um.. no, it does say that. Just went and looked.

Not when discussing the evade token, it doesn't. Only for establishing criteria for the card ability to activate.

Yes, It does. It says exactly what Buhallin said it did

"...you may assign that ship an evade token instead."

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"that ship", right there, bridging the last two lines on the card.

The ship Jan is on is the one that does the assigning, but it is quite clear that the ship that performed the focus action is the "that ship" being referenced in the last 2 lines.

Edited by Forgottenlore

*smacks forehead* My most humble apologies, I just realized my problem. I have only seen the card on xwing-builder.co.uk and they are missing the key phrase "that ship" so I've been using the wrong language. Sorry about the mix-up, all.

Had to double check this one. This is the actual text on the builder.

"Once per round, when a friendly ship at range 1-3 performs a focus action or would be assigned a focus token, you may assign an evade token instead."

Be careful around squadron builder programs. They often use the very first spoiler text from release and sometimes that text gets changed by the time the final card gets made. Best to have the card in hand first, then an image of it to make sure the wording is correct.

I think we may need to mention to the squad builders that some of the card text they have is wrong... This is true for Fleet Officer as well, and I'm betting other cards out there.

Notice also the lack of 'other' ship. If you noticr abilities like Howlrunner for example uses "another friendly ship" while jan ors simply says friendly ship. You can use Jan on the ship that carries her or another friendly ship within her range.

I think we may need to mention to the squad builders that some of the card text they have is wrong... This is true for Fleet Officer as well, and I'm betting other cards out there.

I already let them know. This is a good reminder to check actual cards when theory-crafting when planning a a purchase or anticipating a new release though.

Indeed, when in doubt, get the actual card in your hand. ;)

Can Jan Ors be used to give an evade token to the ship she's on? I.E. if she's crew on a HWK, and the pilot focuses, can that player use Jan to turn the HWK's focus into an evade?

Can Jan Ors be used to give an evade token to the ship she's on? I.E. if she's crew on a HWK, and the pilot focuses, can that player use Jan to turn the HWK's focus into an evade?

Yes. "A friendly ship" includes the ship using the ability, as opposed to "another friendly ship" which precludes the one using the ability. A ship is also considered to be At/Within Range 1 of itself.