matter of miniatures

By possumcatcher, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I am actually more curious about miniatures in Edge of the Empire and the Star Wars RPGs in general. Specifically what you are using or plan on using. I do want to point out in the beginner set campaign, I only used the provided tokens for battles only myself. One or two parts I didn't need anything and I feel the tokens provided in the beginner sets are a good start. I also believe it's possible for Fantasy Flight itself to release a token set.

I do know people are using the Star Wars Miniatures that came out sometime. I've also heard of players using Star Wars attack pods. I myself plan on just using the Star Wars Command figures with World War 2 army men and buying the TimMee Galaxy Team Laser figures and making tri fold ship cut outs for ship battles!!! I didn't like the X wing miniatures game, but the minis make good ships for the ship battles and I can picture players playing both games using those things.

Not to overdo things but Imperial Assault is coming out with expansions already so those could provide miniatures AND dungeon tiles!!!

But I digress, what are you using for Star Wars Miniatures or are you using none at all? Where do you get them.

It's completely not necessary to use minis. We didn't for a long while. But I also have a collection of the Wizards of the Coast Star Wars minis, and when it comes to psychological impact, putting 36 Stormtroopers on the table at once is great fun!

None at all here. At most I might draw a map on graph paper and write/erase Xs, but even that's rarely necessary. I find what helps more isn't maps but pictures of the area.

When I buy miniatures, it’s from MiniatureMarket.com, and I buy the ones from the old Wizards of the Coast (WotC) game. At their best, they aren’t the greatest. And some of them are seriously crap. But they can be helpful.

If you want to do starship battles in the SWRPG but using miniatures to help, FFG has some really nice ones that they put out for the X-Wing game. But they’re big. The WotC game also put out some ship miniatures, to go along with their other line, but they’re much smaller than the FFG X-Wing miniatures, and much, much worse quality. Still, they can be useful if all you need to know is which ships are at short range versus which ones are at medium, etc….

For the most part, we don’t really use minis in our game. The FFG SWRPG system doesn’t really need them. The only times we’ve gotten the minis out is when the combats get big and hairy enough that it becomes important to know who is at what range, and what groups of people are where. Before I had a lot of WotC minis, we just used different sized and colored dice on hand-drawn maps, and that was enough. But now that we sometimes break out the Battlemap with grids, having something a bit more representational can help.

I do like the Imperial Assault figures that I’ve seen pictures of. They look like they will be much higher quality than the ones that WotC put out. If you can buy them individually, then I think our group is likely to use them more than anything. But for now, we’ve got WotC minis which should do the job, in the rare case when we need them.

We use the WotC Star wars minis and terrain. Nothing like looking over the shoulder of a mini and being able to say no you can't see that guy. Use a basic measuring string to measure range. And place minis behind cover etc. To get the cover bonuses.

I got the ones with the introductory boxes, and also got a few tools so we can make our own pogs. I might check the old SW miniatures, but I'm hoping FFG decides to make something similar to the Pathfinder Pawns. The pathfinder NPC codex box is simply awesome, and some campaigns include their own pawns too.

No minis required.

Game is narrative and combat flows smoothe, unlike like pathfinder where exact positions and distaces are required to take a dump...

I have minis and use them sparingly.

No minis required.

Game is narrative and combat flows smoothe, unlike like pathfinder where exact positions and distaces are required to take a dump...

I have minis and use them sparingly.

It's a matter of flavor for me. I've played a lot of systems that doesnt require a map, but we always use at least some crude drawings to keep track of things. It also avoids a lot of discussions in certain tables.

I have hundreds of the wotc miniatures. I use them for a visual representation. I don't measure distances, do any type of tacticsl movement. Instead I am trying to make terrain - statship corridors, planetary terrain, etc.

In the year or so we have been playing SWRP, we have used minis maybe twice.

With that being said, I may have laid down some cash the other day for a copy of Imperial Assault :ph34r:

I use WotC minis as they're useful in getting my players to focus on what's going on in the game. It's all very abstract but I don't have squabbles about who's in cover and who isn't. :D

Legos and some mini's that the players sculpted themselves out of sculpey and old transformers beastwars toys when I need something appropriately big and scary.

It helps my players visualize and keeps gameplay smooth at my table. Representative stuff is plenty good.

Who needs a rancor when you have Megatron shooting missiles out of a T-Rex head?

Who needs a rancor when you have Megatron shooting missiles out of a T-Rex head?

He was a roggwart, actually. :)

Who needs a rancor when you have Megatron shooting missiles out of a T-Rex head?

I had a lightsaber pen from a cereal box prize and it fit perfectly into my "Felucian Warrior on Rancor's" hand, the players were upset. Anyways...

I use my tablet connected to the TV and a 3d tabletop app with tokens. The players like it for tactical purposes and strategizing. If you can get the players really into the scene you may be able to forego the miniatures completely.

I use my tablet connected to the TV and a 3d tabletop app with tokens. The players like it for tactical purposes and strategizing. If you can get the players really into the scene you may be able to forego the miniatures completely.

What app would that be?

I actually agree miniatures aren't needed very much based on my experience with Age of Rebellion and the Edge of the Empire beginner sets. My brother in law can't figure out how I'm gonna pull it off with the Star Wars Command figures,The WW2 bucket of German, Japanese, Commonwealth, and U.S. soldiers, and the Galaxy Team Laser figures. But I tell him over and over, those are for visual representation. We aren't using tile sets so while it looks like we are playing Army Men with a overpriced rule and adventure books, we are really playing Star Wars and it's fun!!! :P

I actually agree miniatures aren't needed very much based on my experience with Age of Rebellion and the Edge of the Empire beginner sets. My brother in law can't figure out how I'm gonna pull it off with the Star Wars Command figures,The WW2 bucket of German, Japanese, Commonwealth, and U.S. soldiers, and the Galaxy Team Laser figures. But I tell him over and over, those are for visual representation. We aren't using tile sets so while it looks like we are playing Army Men with a overpriced rule and adventure books, we are really playing Star Wars and it's fun!!! :P

As others have said, if you want to use minis with this game, I recommend the Wizards of the Coast star wars miniatures. Depending on what you want, they are really cheap (from miniaturemarket or Coolstuffinc or trollandtoad websites). If you just want generic Star wars (not big characters like Luke and Han) miniatures for your PC's and thugs you won't be spending more than 1.50 (most of the time less) a miniature.

Just saying, even though they arent great quality minis, I think they still look better than army men and you'll be spending less/same money. And those star wars command figures are really expensive for what they are.

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I wish they'd put out a collection of tokens a la the 4e Monster Vault . That was great. If anyone has the art & infrastructure required to print off a billion tokens of star wars pictures, it's FFG.

Yeah for Saga I used them constantly. Now for ffg, I use the beginners box tokens for con games. In my home campaign, I will break them out if I get funny looks from my players if my descriptions aren't good enough and the just have to see the setup.

I have a hard time with descriptions, and all but one of my players is inexperainced. I have to have Mini's. I use the WotC mini's. The ones for Assault are too expensive. Of course I ended up getting about 4 booster cases from Minimarket at huge discounts.

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Legos and a Chessex battlemat help also. THis is the chase in Episode one of "Beyond the Rim" we did

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I have a hard time with descriptions, and all but one of my players is inexperainced. I have to have Mini's. I use the WotC mini's. The ones for Assault are too expensive. Of course I ended up getting about 4 booster cases from Minimarket at huge discounts.

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Legos and a Chessex battlemat help also. THis is the chase in Episode one of "Beyond the Rim" we did

Spaceship!!! Spaceship, Spaceship, Spaceship!!!

I'm not a GM nor am I a DM...I'm an ST...a storyteller. I tell you a story...weave you a scene...you immerse yourself and there will never be a need for a miniature or map...that's the difference between a GM/DM and an ST :P

I'm not a GM nor am I a DM...I'm an ST...a storyteller. I tell you a story...weave you a scene...you immerse yourself and there will never be a need for a miniature or map...that's the difference between a GM/DM and an ST :P

And that is great and all, but not everyone has the same level of internal visualization that you apparently do, nor is everyone able to fully describe a scene to keep everyone on the same page about who's where and what is going on.

Using of miniatures is in no way replacing the narrative descriptions of what is going on at my table. It's a tradition. It's a helper when describing where everyone is at. It's much simpler to show a graphic representation of where everyone in the cantina is standing when the fight breaks out then having to describe it in long verbal paragraphs that are often later confused or forgotten - "Wait, I thought our table was right by the door? It's not?.

If you want detailed beautiful maps at 25mm scale and exacting minis for everyone it can be time consuming and costly. But, even a white board with a basic description drawn upon it (in seconds) then a handful of coins can help with telling everyone where everything is placed. It just doesn't look as cool. It's still a very helpful tool in my opinion.

I had always wanted an overhead digital projector hung from the rafters to display digital maps on a table, but the cost and my wife (you want to hang what from the dining room ceiling fan!?) has gotten in the way. I recently purchased a $13 cord for my Ipad that allows me to plug it straight into the large TV in my living room. I then downloaded a new, free virtual tabletop program (3d Virtual Tabletop app). It looks like I will be able to easily import my own maps and tokens quickly. Once I get a good database of generic maps and tokens, I think I will be all set to quickly and easily display street scenes, cantinas, military bases, asteroid fields, deep space, etc with appropriate tokens (even customized ones) of nearly anything that can be imagined. I can then move the tokens (ships, PCs, NPCs, vehicles, any important moveable objects) around by touching the screen on my ipad while everyone can see what is happening on the TV. Cheap and endless expansion if you happen to already have a tablet and a large TV near your play area.

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