Know When to Talk's R states:

R commit: After you block your opponent's attack, each player adds the top card of their deck to their card pool face down. You may not play an attack as a Reversal to this attack.

and Demuth's Sponsorship's R states:

R commit: After an attack that you completely block resolves, reveal the top card of your deck. If it is an attack, play it as a Reversal (no control check necessary). Otherwise, add that card to your momentum. You may only play one copy of this ability per attack.

Now since Demuth's Sponsorship doesn't provide the actual Reversal ability, rather creates a situation where the Reversal ability can be used, I can still respond with Demuth's Sponsorship after Know When to Talk has been activated right? All that will happen is that if I reveal an attack with Demuth's then it goes back to the top of my deck instead of being played as a Reversal. Correct?

i THINK it might go to your momentum since you are not playing it as a reversal...there was a similar ruling a while back and i think that is how it ended up.

I think the conditional on demuths is to you playing it as a reversal, not to the revealed card being an attack.

If you reveal an attack and cannot play it, for whatever reason, it stays on top of your deck. Demut's conditions go

If _____, do this. Otherwise, do that.

The otherwise is referring back to the If.

Cascade said:

Sorry tag, but you're wrong.

This says: if condition do thing. Otherwise do other thing.

So, if you can't do thing, you do other thing.

Not exactly complicated.

If "condition", do this. If not "condition", do this instead. But thanks for insulting my intelligence on this one.

Yeah, aslum, the game state doesn't pay that much attention to things. Demuth's will check the first condition, and if it's true it attempts to play it as a reversal. If it is prevented, then it just stops; it won't backpedal up the abstract choice tree in order to reach the "Otherwise" node.

That got kinda discrete math-ish, sorry :s

Otherwise (pronoun)

: something or anything else

: something to the contrary

It's not optional. It's do one or do the other.

The reason doesn't matter, if the first part can't be fulfilled the second part is.

aslum said:

Take a logic class. A conditional doesn't mean if the first case can't be fulfilled, it means if the first case is FALSE. Its like a flowchart, if the card is an attack, you proceed down the play it as a reversal path. If the card is not an attack, you add to momentum.

The conditional is looking at the type of card, not wether it is played as a reversal.

aslum, of all the people who post here, you're the last one I'd expect to think that dictionary definitions have any bearing on the rules

Wafflecopter said:

QFT - Quoted for truthiness

Expect, no. Hope, yes. I had thought we were finally moving towards rulings based on logic and proper use of the English language.

If A, then B. Else C.

This doesn't mean that if A is true, but B is unable to happen, do C.

It means if A is true, attempt B. If A is false, attempt C.

Fine.

I'm wrong.