Hello all, the creative juices started flowing again today and so I humbly offer another selection for your comments, opinions, and hopefully approval!

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Eta-2 Interceptor Expansion Pack

R2-D2 - Astromech : After executing a green maneuver, you may recover 1 shield (up to shield value).

R4-P17 - Astromech : Once per round, you may sacrifice an evade token and replace it with a focus token.

Wingman - Elite Talent : At the start of the Combat phase, remove 1 stress token from another friendly ship at Range 1.

Practiced Maneuver - Elite Talent (3pt) : Turn all K-turns on your maneuver dial to white maneuvers.

Ion Cannon - Secondary Weapon : Attack: Attack 1 ship. If this attack hits, the defender suffers 1 damage and received an ion token. Then cancel all dice results.

Hyperdrive Ring - Modification (1pt) : Your maneuver dial gains 5 ↑ (green).

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As always, I'd love some feedback and look forward to your comments!

Cheers!

Nice looking cards. I think the hyperdrive ring could have a different effect such as "When you receive damage cards equal to your Hull value then roll a red die. On a blank result remove the ship but it does not count as being destroyed for points determination". It would reflect the fact the ship escaped instead. However the ring itself must have a negative effect on maneuvering.

R2-D2 needs a new talent as these things have no shields (unless you give them a shield upgrade).

Hey, pretty awesome.

I love the funny part of Obi wan being only 7. HAHA.

Can you do me a favor? Make this an awesome, speedy, funky ship?

Should really have boost. Even 4 native green dice.

With Boost and 4 green dice, it should be worth 17 points. PS 3 Green A wing Refit is that much, and frankly, they're not great naked.

Upgrades are similar: trades 2nd EPT for Astro and Missile for Cannon.

Could this thing have more interesting dial moves? to differentiate it from the A wing and Interceptor as "interceptor" style craft?

all the 1s? all white 2s, 3 all greens? 4s 4k 5s 5k? ... something.. acutally my suggestion sucks, but something cool!

This time your costs are nearly about right. You're a little overcosted imo, by like .5 a point. =) cuz naked PS3 Awings arent great.

I really think Obi should be a lower PS. He hated all that jazz ( I do believe he said it quite a few times ). Maybe PS5 or even as low as PS4. Good ability though.

I don't think Anakin needs to get stress for his ability. You could bump his cost up 1 point though.

Obi-wan's ability I don't like much as it seems to be really negative... I could only see him using it if he equipped HLC or an unreleased cannon.

It needs a new wording also: "At the end of the Activation Phase, you may choose to roll 1 less attack dice when you attack this turn to assign an evade token to you."

This means he can do this only once, and regardless of if he has stress.

Garnet needs an EPT really badly.

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Upgrades:

r2d2 is useless for these craft cuz they have no shields.

the second astromech already exists, but sucks.

Love the EPTs.

How about Hyperdrive Ring or Boosting Ring: After you execute a 5 straight maneuver, you may execute a 3 straight maneuver. Total 9 straight! Cost 2 points. Mod.

Opportunity cost of not having Autothrusters.

Nice looking cards. I think the hyperdrive ring could have a different effect such as "When you receive damage cards equal to your Hull value then roll a red die. On a blank result remove the ship but it does not count as being destroyed for points determination". It would reflect the fact the ship escaped instead. However the ring itself must have a negative effect on maneuvering.

R2-D2 needs a new talent as these things have no shields (unless you give them a shield upgrade).

Not sure if we could change a dynamic that much, removing a ship from the battlefield and then what, re-entering from your starting side the next turn? I wondered about including R2 as he was always with Anakin and I'm unsure of how to have 2 different R2 astromechs... hmm...

Hey, pretty awesome.

I love the funny part of Obi wan being only 7. HAHA.

Can you do me a favor? Make this an awesome, speedy, funky ship?

Should really have boost. Even 4 native green dice.

With Boost and 4 green dice, it should be worth 17 points. PS 3 Green A wing Refit is that much, and frankly, they're not great naked.

Upgrades are similar: trades 2nd EPT for Astro and Missile for Cannon.

Could this thing have more interesting dial moves? to differentiate it from the A wing and Interceptor as "interceptor" style craft?

all the 1s? all white 2s, 3 all greens? 4s 4k 5s 5k? ... something.. acutally my suggestion sucks, but something cool!

This time your costs are nearly about right. You're a little overcosted imo, by like .5 a point. =) cuz naked PS3 Awings arent great.

I kind of intentionally made these cheaper and less powerful as the Aethersprite fighters were definitely an upgrade, so... I mean, these ships were effective because Jedi were flying them, right?

"Piloting ships is for droids..." - Obi-Wan Kenobi :-)

As far as maneuvering and point costs, I'm trying to keep historically accurate in that these ships upgraded eventually to the A-Wing, so they can't be as good, right? Adjust the point cost to make them playable, but not quite as good as their upgraded craft. Does that make sense?

Anyway, thanks!

Also, for your reference, flavor text, text that does nothing, is italicized.

Ahh okay. I get your idea.

Yeah, they could still use boost i think... Just makes more sense.

Lose a point or two.

It would be fun to have ships that are different still though. The dial is pretty normal interceptor.

I don't think Anakin needs to get stress for his ability. You could bump his cost up 1 point though.

Obi-wan's ability I don't like much as it seems to be really negative... I could only see him using it if he equipped HLC or an unreleased cannon.

It needs a new wording also: "At the end of the Activation Phase, you may choose to roll 1 less attack dice when you attack this turn to assign an evade token to you."

This means he can do this only once, and regardless of if he has stress.

Garnet needs an EPT really badly.

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Upgrades:

r2d2 is useless for these craft cuz they have no shields.

the second astromech already exists, but sucks.

Love the EPTs.

How about Hyperdrive Ring or Boosting Ring: After you execute a 5 straight maneuver, you may execute a 3 straight maneuver. Total 9 straight! Cost 2 points. Mod.

Opportunity cost of not having Autothrusters.

Edit: just as my brain is letting sleep an idea hits me ( I now can't sleep, thank you brain ). Obi Wan: The first time in any combat phase when Obi Wan has to roll any defencive dice he gains a focus token.

Anakin could have something like this ( just to be different to Vader )

Ani: if your first primary weapons attack this turn misses you may make an immediate primary weapon attack at the same target.

( modified gunner )

Was Anakin a better pilot before he became Vader? It strikes me that he's a lot clunkier with all the cyborg bits.

Theoretically, would "When you would perform an action, perform two actions." be viable or massively OP? The bar you've got doesn't have the actions for that to work any better than Vader+PTL does at the moment, and you'd end up paying for stuff like EU so the points might balance it out.

Obi-wan's ability is AWFUL with a 2-attack ship. How about a "flying is for droids" theme, something like "At the start of the combat phase, if you have an [astromech] upgrade equipped, you may perform a free evade action then acquire a stress token."

One detail... they did not fly for the Rebels.. they did for the Empire... which at that time was.. Republic.. well.... would be a 4th faction

But jokeing aside.. i like them...
I like the idea of Skywalker getting stressed (then) and later when mastering the force as Vader not anymore... good idea...
ObiWan i would lower in PS as well since her really was not a good pilot...
Nice defense ability but why would i field him? Giv him something cooperative... lower his attack and give 1 defense to a friendly ship in range 1.

Nice pictures tho!

Kepp going i love your ideas and ships!

It should also be noted that as worded, anakin's ability doesn't work. If he is taking a stress token to activate it then he has a stress token and cannot perform the actions. It should be reworded to match the templating on the vader and PTL cards.

A potential ability for Obi-Wan could be "When you spend an Evade token you may change all eyeballs to Evades instead of adding one evade result" not groundbreaking but it isn't exactly a horrible one, how often have we taken an evade action only to roll 2-3 eyeballs on evade dice instead? and honestly rolling only 1 focus would cause it to break even and rolling 0 focus you could still pop it as a regular evade token.

I actually hope this makes it into the game on some ship (preferably one with 3 agility) I really think it would be fun with PTL allowing potentially a "double" focus for a crewless ship.

One detail... they did not fly for the Rebels.. they did for the Empire... which at that time was.. Republic.. well.... would be a 4th faction

But jokeing aside.. i like them...

I like the idea of Skywalker getting stressed (then) and later when mastering the force as Vader not anymore... good idea...

ObiWan i would lower in PS as well since her really was not a good pilot...

Nice defense ability but why would i field him? Giv him something cooperative... lower his attack and give 1 defense to a friendly ship in range 1.

Nice pictures tho!

Kepp going i love your ideas and ships!

You got it with Anakin, his ability is similar to Vader, just not as refined. He's still learning. Clearly he's a natural, hence the PS9, but the ability gets better with age and experience.

For Obi-Wan, I just tried to think of his fight over Coruscant and his duel against Jango in the asteroid field. He's clearly good at avoiding fire, but not a great pilot, however, being a Jedi, he's far and above most pilots out there, I think.

Ahh okay. I get your idea.

Yeah, they could still use boost i think... Just makes more sense.

Lose a point or two.

It would be fun to have ships that are different still though. The dial is pretty normal interceptor.

My thought was that the Aethersprite would add the boost and gain the shields with a similar dial. I'll get on that italics :-)

I'll also get some reworks up.

Thanks everyone for great feedback!

The dial is important. It has a lot to do with the feel of the ship. Pasting the interceptor dial is lazy and not that creative.

really also, is there honestly a reason to make subpar / weaker model ships on purpose,( this includes cost)? Why not just makes these aethersprites then? whats the point?

I'd say lower the cost since the base stats are the same as a tie fighter, but it costs a lot more just for astromech and cannon slots. If you want to keep it that cost, I'd add the boost action and also make it a natural agility 4. Since they were so tiny and fast (and mostly flown by jedi) would make sense to have the first natural agility 4 ship.

Alright, just applied some changes taking into account your "sage" wisdom :-)

I lowered the costs, slightly and tried to create a real synergy between Obi-Wan and his droid. Not sure if I've broken the game somehow in that or if the droid makes some other pilot insane, but...

As far as why I didn't go straight to the Aethersprite, all I can say is, variety is the spice of the game for me and even if I can run "sub-par" ships in place of another "sub-par" ship, then yay! As far as the dial, I toyed with this idea

Anyway, I really do appreciate the kind words and helpful advice in these creations. You guys are a really good group for feedback.

Cheers!

Dial-crafting is so much fun, isn't it? I've got a set of maneuver frequency charts that I should prettify one of these days, it's interesting to see what parts of the dial design space are underutilised so far.

Here's what I came up with:

Basic structure is VERY fast (3-bank greens aren't currently on any dial afaik), it can slow down but if it ever gets stressed it has to run away rather than slow-play which makes it fly oddly. I thought about dropping the 2-straight from green to white but it seems to be some sort of rule that every ship has a 2-straight green.

I would drop the 2 straight as a dare. Hahaha. I would also dare making 1 hard turns white... But that's optional. I kind of do like the idea of 1 hard turn 3 green slight. Crazy turning radius that is. Love it.

I'm a little wary that we get a little close to scum territory with their 3 greens.

Oh oh. Give it the 5k also in replacement for no 2 straight green. Totally awesome.

And if you want you could make 5forward green.

Btw can we make it forum canon that short hand for moves is:

Length bearing/LR color?

F for forward.

S for slight turn

H for hard turn

K for k turn

Sg for segnor loop

5f white

3sL green

3sgL red

Wish we had a better term for slight. Cuz the S could be mistaken for straight.

B for bank?

These are my version (I know, I forgot the Unique dot):


I also had this guys:

Oh man, I love Aethersprites so so much, those along with V-wings are probably my favorite prequel (and probably the only ones that I really like). That said, I would think that Obi-wan in either an Aethersprite or an Eta-2 should a PS7, yes he hates flying, but lets be honest, is that maneuvering in Episode 2 really the work of a PS5 or even 6? I would bump Plo-Koon up to a 9 as well

I like everything here, save for that EPT 'Practiced Maneuver', WAY too powerful for a 3 point EPT. This needs to nearly double in cost at least, and be a dotted EPT, meaning you can only have one per squad.

Imagine what this would do on a Test Pilot A-Wing for example with PTL, or god forbid a TIE Interceptor. It would just be gross.