I got tired of tokens.

By DarkSpade, in X-Wing

You could find a drafting shape template at Staples, etc. to use for the different shapes. Just a suggestion. :)

Question: Putting them on/taking them off - doesnt this move the models? I like the idea, but I also like that the tokens are placed slightly away from the model so it doesn't get accidentally moved.

Question: Putting them on/taking them off - doesnt this move the models? I like the idea, but I also like that the tokens are placed slightly away from the model so it doesn't get accidentally moved.

If you're not careful you might move them a little. Easily avoidable by placing a finger on the base when you take them on or off.

You do realize btw, that you just invalidated my entire recent restructuring of my storage system with your awesomeness right? :P

You do realize btw, that you just invalidated my entire recent restructuring of my storage system with your awesomeness right? :P

LOL

Truth is, I had just redone my own token storage less than 24 hours before I got this idea.

Having to restructure your token storage would be a good inspiration to think of some other way of doing things. :)

Impressive...most impressive.

A+ for ingenuity. F- for aesthetic.

This idea is absolutely fantastic. My improvement to this would be to color the clips black, print some images of the tokens small enough to Modge-Podge to the clip or just use black clips to begin with. Cutting could be an issue but they would look way better.

Great idea but I feel the benefit gained does not outweigh how ugly they are.

This has me thinking of trying these

http://www.amazon.com/Officemate-Small-Binder-Clips-99020/dp/B001HBIPDK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418509263&sr=8-2&keywords=small+binder+clip

The smallest ones should fit around the pegs right and you could glue tokens directly to them. Would be a little but less intrusive.

For anyone interested. I tested some of these small binder clips and they are still too loose for the small pegs, and have to stretch for the large ones. So binder clips don't work so well.

Oh I'll freely admit they're not as snazzy as they could be, but I prefer to do things simple as possible. Too many steps and I'd probably stopped after making the set from the first picture. If I even got that far. I do really like solo14's idea. Perhaps some day if I'm feeling extra ambitious(and willing to deal with the clean up) I'll give it a shot.

I've got a couple more packs just in case, but for now I think I've got plenty.

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The 3 on the bottom left are for things like Marksmanship.

Problem with those would be painting them. Although, if you're willing to put in extra work, they would look better in the long run. Simply get them already the right colors(red, blue, and green) and then use a dremal to etch in the right symbols. Then, apply black paint directly into the etched out area and make sure you wipe off any excess on the surface. They'd look really good, but the etching part ups the difficulty a lot since those look rather narrow.

Another option would be to use them to just clip the token to the pole, but that all depends on whether or not the tips would be closed enough with the pole in the way.

I was thinking order some acrylic tokens and then super glue to them then there's no need for etching. A little bit more expensive yes but overall would look pretty good.

You do know the bases are designed to take the target lock tokens?

Doesn't solve the issue of the 'red' side not being attached to anything or the multiple focuses you could accumulate (love that pegged out Hwk!) but still, one less thing to worry about...pictures would be used to explain what I mean except it's a massive ball ache to do on hear!

Edited by Capt Green

You do know the bases are designed to take the target lock tokens?

Actually, I suspect the bases were designed to take the numbered ship ID tombstones, but since all the cardboard is the same thickness, a lot if people just slot TLs into one side for convenience.

Edited by Forgottenlore

You do know the bases are designed to take the target lock tokens?

Actually, I suspect the bases were designed to take the numbered ship ID tombstones, but since all the cardboard is the same thickness, a lot if people just slot TLs into one side for convenience.

Slot....the....TL..... Oh I wish I had thought of that.

As for the pins, elegant suburb idea. I don't think I ca use it, I would go mad trying to make the ions look pretty, but wow that is a stunningly good idea.

I was thinking order some acrylic tokens and then super glue to them then there's no need for etching. A little bit more expensive yes but overall would look pretty good.

Oh yeah, that would work really well. Would look a lot better too.

You do know the bases are designed to take the target lock tokens?

Doesn't solve the issue of the 'red' side not being attached to anything or the multiple focuses you could accumulate (love that pegged out Hwk!) but still, one less thing to worry about...pictures would be used to explain what I mean except it's a massive ball ache to do on hear!

As mentioned, those are to hold the ship IDs, but I did try it once. I wasn't a fan. Became a problem when a ship had more than one enemy locked on to it.

That's a terrible idea. I don't want someonw to clip anything to my models, especially since I use only 1 peg, but if in a tournament, they break your model, you could be DQ immediately.

I was hoping to see an option that didn't have my opponent touching my toys.

That's why I made sure my target lock clips would match up with the official tokens. I can clip the blue A to my mini and and set a red A token next to yours. I'd never clip them to someone else's ship anyway, just the pole. Even then, only with permission. The HWK pic was a joke. I made the 5x focus clips to avoid something like that. Really these are mainly for home play anyway since both game stores I know are an hour away and I don't know of either of them running events.

And they're small wooden clips, not pneumatic steel clamps. If I can get a ship on and off it's base without breaking it I'm sure I can do the same with these clips.

That's actually a really nifty solution! Good job mate. And welcome to the forums.

Plus they look amazing, nothing helps with the Star Wars Sci Fi aesthetic then a couple of wooden, felt tipped pegs.

how Much for a dozen sets?

Lmao.

Practicality rules the day. Great idea but I'm not sold on the overall aesthetic.

How about magnetic plates beneath the ship bases and metallic tokens? That'd be super cool, but probably slightly more expensive. I could keep biggs literally glued to his buddies, though.

aesthetically, you can get plastic colored clothespins. Choose the right color, print icons on a sticker or clear transfer, and you end up with something just as useful looking better.

I really liked this idea and went to my local "Joann Fabrics" and bought some very small, pre-painted black clothespins.

I then glued the token on it. I've not played a game yet but just from making the photo I think it will work. There will be a minor problem of the spring being stronger than one's grip on the mini and the ships might move if you don't have a finger on the base.

Here's a photo.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh88/CliffordHolm/X-wingclothpins.jpg

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I really liked this idea and went to my local "Joann Fabrics" and bought some very small, pre-painted black clothespins.

I then glued the token on it. I've not played a game yet but just from making the photo I think it will work. There will be a minor problem of the spring being stronger than one's grip on the mini and the ships might move if you don't have a finger on the base.

Here's a photo.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh88/CliffordHolm/X-wingclothpins.jpg

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S1n,

It would help to facilitate discussion if you would quantify your objections to the concept. Your post as is sort of trollish.

For example I’ll give some self criticism, this concept is best used on target locks and stress and least usable on dodge tokens.

The reason being target locks stay in play the longest and are the token most frequently left behind when the ship flies away. Critical Hits tokens as well (If anyone actually uses those).

A clothespin on dodge isn’t helpful though as the ship is done moving after the token is placed and its removed before it moves again.

If a person plays the The Moldy Crow clips are very important because unused focus are not removed during clean up.

So S1n, with the above examples you can now see how discussion leads to improvement.

Please quantify your objections.

S1n,

It would help to facilitate discussion if you would quantify your objections to the concept. Your post as is sort of trollish.

For example I’ll give some self criticism, this concept is best used on target locks and stress and least usable on dodge tokens.

The reason being target locks stay in play the longest and are the token most frequently left behind when the ship flies away. Critical Hits tokens as well (If anyone actually uses those).

A clothespin on dodge isn’t helpful though as the ship is done moving after the token is placed and its removed before it moves again.

If a person plays the The Moldy Crow clips are very important because unused focus are not removed during clean up.

So S1n, with the above examples you can now see how discussion leads to improvement.

Please quantify your objections.

Okay, let's start.

First, you have that model on at least 2 pegs. That means it won't work for anyone with fewer pegs. Second, you will have to constantly touch the model to clip tokens to it, which increases the chance of you moving the model. Third, it looks way, way, way more difficult to maintain those token clips than it does to simply pay attention when playing the game (moving the model, move the tokens).

Most importantly, if you have problems keeping track of tokens, practicing that in games is probably the best way to improve that skill. One major aspect of the game is knowing (or figuring out how to know) the game's state. To figure out a game's state where my opponent clips crap to his ships, I have to get in closer to figure out which token is attached because it's not easily visible.

Try running a TIE swarm doing this. Then tell me you still think it's a good idea.

Much like the double-decker couch, this idea might seem good to the creator, but it is wrought with problems that have no easy answer.

Edited by s1n

S1n,

It would help to facilitate discussion if you would quantify your objections to the concept. Your post as is sort of trollish.

For example I’ll give some self criticism, this concept is best used on target locks and stress and least usable on dodge tokens.

The reason being target locks stay in play the longest and are the token most frequently left behind when the ship flies away. Critical Hits tokens as well (If anyone actually uses those).

A clothespin on dodge isn’t helpful though as the ship is done moving after the token is placed and its removed before it moves again.

If a person plays the The Moldy Crow clips are very important because unused focus are not removed during clean up.

So S1n, with the above examples you can now see how discussion leads to improvement.

Please quantify your objections.

Okay, let's start.

First, you have that model on at least 2 pegs. That means it won't work for anyone with fewer pegs. Second, you will have to constantly touch the model to clip tokens to it, which increases the chance of you moving the model. Third, it looks way, way, way more difficult to maintain those token clips than it does to simply pay attention when playing the game (moving the model, move the tokens).

Most importantly, if you have problems keeping track of tokens, practicing that in games is probably the best way to improve that skill. One major aspect of the game is knowing (or figuring out how to know) the game's state. To figure out a game's state where my opponent clips crap to his ships, I have to get in closer to figure out which token is attached because it's not easily visible.

Try running a TIE swarm doing this. Then tell me you still think it's a good idea.

Much like the double-decker couch, this idea might seem good to the creator, but it is wrought with problems that have no easy answer.

Edited by Pogie