And your table manners?

This post is a very brave proposal. With great respect ....

There needs to be a sarcasm font.

I love English wit. Tnough will admit that sometimes it is done so "straight faced/dry" that I miss it.

BTW Gadge did you play Confrontation?

The old pre 'necromunda' confrontation game.... my mate playtested it and we tried the stuff put in white dwarf but it was never really fnished.

But i imagine you mean a different game?

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He probably means the fantasy game by Rackham Games, but miore importantly....wow, you must be as old as me to have played the WD Confrontation!

Im a few months off 40

Being offended is a choice.

Alas there are way too many mentally challenged ppl out there, more often than not of the religious kind, who choose to be offended too often.

I've often found people who get 'really outraged' are doing it on behalf of other people, groups of people or individuals who are not actually offended themselves.

Like i do WWII re-enactment and have a fair few jewish friends who have no issue at all with people portraying axis forces as long as when the kit comes off the 'attitude' isnt still there. (and that they are not being really offensive and 'political' and actually just representing SS combat troops or whatever) Everyone who seems to get offended by SS units in battles *isnt* jewish.

The funniest one is that in public events we try and keep roles on both sides gender and race accurate as much as possible... so in my British Airborne group my wife cant take part in mens kit in a public battle.

If we have a private skirmish women are very welcome to 'cross dress' as guys and get stuck in.

One of my good friends (and a sw cosplayer too) is a black lass called Marsha.

She does WWII private battles as Waffen SS. When she's kitted up you have to be really close to tell she's a woman and not just a cammed up/filthed up 'frontscwein'. 90 per cent of people have no issue with he playing what she wants to play the game as but you can spot the 'real'' nazis who in their head have very right wing views as you can see the look of disgust as they see a black woman in their 'revered' uniform of the 'master race'.

Marsha and i find it hilarious watching the look on their faces when they are going 'oh i just do ss because im interested in the weapons and tactics... im not into the politics' but their face is saying 'im a massive racist'

I wonder if being a professional offendee actually pays well, it seems to be all the rage recently.

I wonder if being a professional offendee actually pays well, it seems to be all the rage recently.

It's working for Anita sarkesian, she's the poster girl for professional victimhood.

As a "Yank" I for one can appreciate the British sense of humor along with the dry and sarcastic wit. I tend toward those myself along with a bit of understatement. I actually find it refreshing in a way over our western "over the top" and oftentimes blatantly crude humor. Of course as a world traveler (retired US Navy) I've been exposed to a lot of cultures (I've been on every continent except one - and it's too **** cold there for me) in countries too numerous to mention and have learned to appreciate differing types of humor. And as an American I am positively fed up with everyone being "OUTRAGED" and "OFFENDED" by every little comment that's made, I think its a cultural epidemic in the US because it's "the thing to do". So for Gadge and the rest of you fellows across the pond, don't get too bent out of shape because someone can't understand the context of your posts, because most of us do.

I wonder if being a professional offendee actually pays well, it seems to be all the rage recently.

Not for the offended, but it is very easy to capitalize off of hilariously petty perceived slights

Fox News basically built their network out of it

Probably the same sort of person who believes in invisible chapters of old books of myth that you need special glasses to be able to read.

Probably....

You're not talking about Ken "I've got this book" Ham are you?

I'll have you know he's the thinking man's Duane Gish

Oh and i hate football, rugby and cricket are proper games.

Rugby is like your 'football' except its played by men who dont need more body armour than a combat soldier to take part and see losing an ear as an 'occupational hazard' (a game for thugs played by gentlemen) and cricket... well i'd probably need a week to explain cricket to you.

Its a lot of standing around tbh but ok when you're in bat or fielding in a position that has some possibility of seeing the ball come your way.

Again, broken fingers are considered an occupational hazard and part of the game. My father once caught a shot that should have been a 'four' and possibly a 'six' (pretty much hit hard enough to clear the boundary allowing the batsman to run the equivalent of a 'home run') and broke his hand in several places... finished the game though.

And there is *nothing* wrong with warm ales...

(we do have cold lager too you know only ours is a bit stronger than yours)

Ahh yes, I too feel people should risk bodily harm and crippling injury while playing a sport for my amusement as I sit on my couch drinking beer and eating corn chips. And the more risks they take the better. Helmets that cut down on head injuries? No, unmanly. These men must bleed for my entertainment.

Also, padding is generally used as a weapon, same reason people can hit harder with gloves on in boxing.

I used to do muay thai boxing, everytime the 'hurr durr rugby is for men football is for *******' comment comes up I shake my head and laugh.

One thing you have to understand about us americans. Our favorite passtime is being outraged on behalf of someone who doesn't even realise that they should be outraged. Any random american has a much more finely tune moral outrage sensor than just about anyone else in the world. It's because we care so.. so much.

*note: if offended by this post, enable your sarcasm filter and try reading it again.

One thing you have to understand about us americans. Our favorite passtime is being outraged on behalf of someone who doesn't even realise that they should be outraged. Any random american has a much more finely tune moral outrage sensor than just about anyone else in the world. It's because we care so.. so much.

*note: if offended by this post, enable your sarcasm filter and try reading it again.

I feel that you should be outraged by your own post on my behalf.

You are not alone, Gadge. I also received a warning point yesterday. Apparently while replying to someone's insults, they became offended. Even funnier is that it was a topic many weeks old.

FFG can kiss my grits.

The topic of offense, victim hood and anglophilia is a bit beyond something you can sort out on a message board about space ships and wizards, but there is an important lesson to be learned here.

When you tell a joke, or engage in satire, it is not the fault of the audience it falls flat.

It's not because Americans don't get British humor, it's not because rugby players think an elbow in the scrum is the same as getting run over by a 300 pound (136 kg or 21 1/2 stone) who can do a 40 in under 5 (no really, those broken fingers are cute) and it is not because people are too sensitive today (except maybe comedians).

The joke bombed, you get over it and move on. You don't blame your audience, that's what's really offensive.

You've lost me there

So were you the offended party who reported it.

Most people though it was a funny thread from what i recall?

I got asked to join the freemasons once, i was mildly flattered but it was all a bit 'secret society' for me.

Facepalm

I always appreciate the British skill of insulting someone and then asking them to agree with you.

It's called "Colonialism".

The Belgians tried that to once, but it got out of hand.

we like irony, understatement and sarcasm.

I was always brought up to understate. My wife didnt go to quite the same sort of 'old school' so thinks im being rude when i say something is 'quite good' when i really actually like it.

Here this may explain. I dont agree with the 'quite good' bit of this. I tend to understate to compliment. If something is terrible i'll say nothing.

And that's before you lot throw in words like "naff", "pants", "sod", "narked" and "taking the piss".

You got a warning point? I'm pretty sure I've been more reported than you and I still have 0.

Well if you really want one...

This post is a very brave proposal. With great respect ....

There needs to be a sarcasm font.

I love English wit. Tnough will admit that sometimes it is done so "straight faced/dry" that I miss it.

BTW Gadge did you play Confrontation?

The old pre 'necromunda' confrontation game.... my mate playtested it and we tried the stuff put in white dwarf but it was never really fnished.

But i imagine you mean a different game?

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He probably means the fantasy game by Rackham Games, but miore importantly....wow, you must be as old as me to have played the WD Confrontation!

Didn't play it but my first WD had the gang rules in it. Looked pretty sweet.

I got asked to join the freemasons once, i was mildly flattered but it was all a bit 'secret society' for me.

Facepalm

They are actually trying to be more 'transparent'. I was approached by a friend and being seen by them as a man in my city who 'makes things happen' with some entrepreneurial skill and a decent position in publishing I was asked if I'd like to join the lodge.

I'm very tempted by the fantastic library with some very very rare books and the beautiful bar/club and the fact that the business connections could be useful but i'm still not 100 per cent sure.

Might be something i'll do, might not.

You are allowed to talk about it these days as long as you dont reveal certain secrets. I was told at dinner with them i could discuss joining with anyone i liked.

Well they do seem to be the most well know "secret society". (Seems like a contradiction doesn't it)

And they are probably nice people to. Unlike those Esoteric Order of Dagon guys...

TBH i quite liked the idea of being a member.

You make a lot of charitable contributions so its not 'cheap', you need to sort of be able to afford to take part in charity dinners and events etc and the joining fee is not 'pennies'...

It was well within my means when i was asked but i'm on a much lower income these days as my spinal injury has got a fair bit worse and i had to stop doing one of my jobs. So now with just the magazine and the clubnight for income i think i'd notice it a bit more. (technically the band is a third income but no one ever really makes any money in niche genre music... while you get paid for gigs and you're on a record label you usually end up spending more money partying than you make )

I think the flattering bit was realising that a lot of quite important and respected businessmen in the city considered me a candidate to join their 'club'. Made me feel like all the work i've put into running events and magazines over the last 20 years actually hadnt gone unnoticed.

You've lost me there

So were you the offended party who reported it.

Most people though it was a funny thread from what i recall?

You missed the entire point of my post. I was making fun of rugby.