Off Topic: Here be Canon. (Possible Spoilers)

By ClavainRS, in X-Wing

Hello everyone.

Full time lurker here, but I thought I would share some lovely information I have acquired that has my old Star Wars nerd senses tingling. If you have any intention of reading the new Star Wars novels coming out (Tarkin especially) you may not want to read further. The point of this thread is to share some information gleaned reading the first two new Star Wars novels that have come to be released that have officially canonized some long time fan favorite starships that for decades had only existed in the Expanded Universe.

No other topics from the books will be discussed; just what was stated above.

So! To start, the Victory class Star Destroyer is now officially a canon ship, as is the good ole Imperial Escort Carrier (Complete with Krupx Warhead Launchers) and a ship I was unfamiliar with, the Secutor-class Star Destroyer.

That which is now published, becomes canon. So say we all. Or the Lucasfilm story group, at any rate.

This thread wasn't meant to start the time worn argument of what was or wasn't canon prior to the Disney intervention; I will state I am of the camp that followed the word of Lucas. If he didn't have it in the films or Clone Wars, it was *not* canon, no matter how long it had existed or how it had embedded itself into the imaginations of the fans.

Doesn't mean I believe a particular non-Lucas invention was uncool or unworthy of Star Wars, I just didn't count it as a canon element in the universe. But really :P I just want to nerd out with fellow Star Wars fans about these ships being made official.

I thought it would be nice to celebrate the entry of these fine vessels into official Star Wars lore, especially the Victory class and the Escort Carrier whom have been around for a very, very long time.

Cheers!

Interdictors are canon now too.

Interdictors are canon now too.

Great call! As is the CC-7700 I think it was...Which was a ship out of the old Rebellion game but apparently appeared in print somewhere in the past too.

I for one, am utterly delighted that these vessels have finally earned their rightful place within the canon.

It's about damned time.

I actually hadn't heard of the Imperial Escort Carrier until very recently, but ever since seeing it I have been in love.

Wookiepedia doesn't list the size of the thing, but some of the folks on this board seem convinced that it's within the 150-250 band. So I'm hopeful. Very hopeful.

One thing to remember is that there are a few people writing for various Star Wars projects (including at least one of the movies) that love the video games as much as we do. So I wouldn't be surprised to see more of these sorts of crossovers.

Wait: imperial escort carrier or escort carrier?

Aka, the arrowhead or the Logitech mouse?

I actually hadn't heard of the Imperial Escort Carrier until very recently, but ever since seeing it I have been in love.

Wookiepedia doesn't list the size of the thing, but some of the folks on this board seem convinced that it's within the 150-250 band. So I'm hopeful. Very hopeful.

One thing to remember is that there are a few people writing for various Star Wars projects (including at least one of the movies) that love the video games as much as we do. So I wouldn't be surprised to see more of these sorts of crossovers.

Its about twice the length of a rebel transport I think, plus or minus some meters.

The arrowhead. It doesn't deserve the name, "Carrier" because well, it's barely a Carrier. It doesn't escort anything either.

The arrowhead. It doesn't deserve the name, "Carrier" because well, it's barely a Carrier. It doesn't escort anything either.

"Barely a carrier" is actually the perfect scale for this game. As far as what it escorts, I'd guess 1 of those would be good to guard a small freighter convoy against a small Rebel pirate force that would prefer easier pickings.

They also brought back the Carrack of all things.

Please tell me they're redesigning it.

The biggest piece of salvaged EU I noticed in Tarkin was a name: Isard.

Interdictors are canon now too.

This is true, but they don't work quite the same. Ships in the interdiction zone experience some discomforting side effects that had not been mentioned before.

Interdictors are canon now too.

This is true, but they don't work quite the same. Ships in the interdiction zone experience some discomforting side effects that had not been mentioned before.

They did mention the Immobilizer, which is the Interdictor we know and love was essentially in prototype phase when it was used in the book, hence the event with the gravity wells. And yes! I forgot about the lonely Carrack which also became a full fledged canon member.

As for the Escort Carrier the Imperial I tacked on is not in its proper name. However the ship was an Imperial design and deployed by the Empire to make up for the lack of survivability of TIEs in combat, thus it brought a back up wing to battle. Canon wise now, in Tarkin the Empire is still using Republic era fighters and TIEs are only mentioned as just being introduced. Which means the back story for the carrier has changed. But the one in the book is the old WEG model. He even quotes the stats right out of the Imperial Source Book. I believe though they are 500 meters and they are not triangular but a big box in space.

Oh. Ooooooooh nooooooooo...

I've just started reading Tarkin now, and I note that it has a cloaking device, built on a stygium system.

That, or the writing is poor, and the topic was a previous stealth ship that Anikan Skywalker had command of in a great Clone Wars episode.

Stupid uncertain antecedents.

I loved the part where they set up the Interdictors and had all those various capital ships. Made me so very pleased to see a lot of old EU ships show up in the new canon. I also had to look the Secutor class up. I guess it's a fan made thing that made it's way into canon just because they needed some fancy pictures for the Guide to Warfare book, but atleast it looks decent.

All the times they mentioned Intel, I kept waiting and hopeing that ole man Isard would get mentioned or show up. Very pleased he is still around and even old Admiral Screed. Makes me wonder if the Droids cartoon is still apart of canon.

It was very different how they described the Interdictor field working. It's never worked like that before. I wonder if it was just because of the accident with the 418 they rushed there from the shipyards. Or if they do work like that now, I wonder if FFG will adapt that into Armada if they ever add Interdictors to the game.

If this is the direction of the new EU, then I am looking forward to it.

So, how long before we start spotting all the inconsistencies that they don't manage to keep out?

Interdictors are canon now too.

This is true, but they don't work quite the same. Ships in the interdiction zone experience some discomforting side effects that had not been mentioned before.

Such as?

Is there a timeline and index of books being released somewhere? Now might be a good moment to start in books again, now that they're starting over.