Ok, I've been reread the base rule book a few times, and I can't tell if I'm reading too much into this or not. Page 12 in the base rules, "If a player wants to resolve multiple modifying abilities, he resolves them in the order of his choosing. If the attacker and defender both have abilities that can modify defense dice, the attacker resolves all of his abilities before the defender."

Here's the situation:

Farlander rolls and hits a Tie Phantoms. The dice rolls equal 2 hits and one eye for Farlander and one evade for the Tie Phantom. Farlander chooses to use a focus and change the eye into a hit. He has now made all of his dice changes. The Tie Phantoms uses sensor jammer to change one hit into an eye. Now, here is my question: Farlander has already modified his dice. Can he use his ability (remove a stress token to changes eye into hits) now that he has an eye, or do ALL modifiers have to be claimed by the attacker first.

Basically, attacker and defender both roll. The attacker makes dice mods. The defender makes dice mods. Can the attacker go back and change again if he has a legal way to do so. Likewise, can the defender than change the attack dice for a 4th time?

Thanks

Ok, I've been reread the base rule book a few times, and I can't tell if I'm reading too much into this or not. Page 12 in the base rules, "If a player wants to resolve multiple modifying abilities, he resolves them in the order of his choosing. If the attacker and defender both have abilities that can modify defense dice, the attacker resolves all of his abilities before the defender."

Here's the situation:

Farlander rolls and hits a Tie Phantoms. The dice rolls equal 2 hits and one eye for Farlander and one evade for the Tie Phantom. Farlander chooses to use a focus and change the eye into a hit. He has now made all of his dice changes. The Tie Phantoms uses sensor jammer to change one hit into an eye. Now, here is my question: Farlander has already modified his dice. Can he use his ability (remove a stress token to changes eye into hits) now that he has an eye, or do ALL modifiers have to be claimed by the attacker first.

Basically, attacker and defender both roll. The attacker makes dice mods. The defender makes dice mods. Can the attacker go back and change again if he has a legal way to do so. Likewise, can the defender than change the attack dice for a 4th time?

Thanks

Any modifications to the attack dice by the defender happen before the attacker modifies.

order of attack goes:

attacker rolls attack dice

defender modifies attack dice

attacker modifies defence dice

so sensor jammer turns eyes into hits before you get to spend a focus (or use farlander's stress pseudo focus)

The dice rolls equal 2 hits and one eye for Farlander and one evade for the Tie Phantom. Farlander chooses to use a focus and change the eye into a hit.

This might be part of the problem.

The Defender doesn't roll dice until after the attack dice have been modified. So Farlander would have to decide what if anything to do with that <eye> before the Phantom rolls the defense dice.

The proper order of dice modification.

Attacker rolls dice.

Defender modifies attack dice.

Attacker modifies attack dice.

Defender rolls dice.

Attacker modifies defense dice.

Defender modifies defense dice.

I think if you follow that, it should help you sort out your issues. Also you only have the one opportunity to modify dice.

Thanks for the clarifications. We were (somehow) under the impression that the rolls happened simultaneously.

It happens. Have to remind a guy in my crew that he cant roll his defence till attack is resolved. Someday he will get it I hope.

I'd say that many of us have rolled defense when the attack is rolled because it may be what we are used to in other games and because it may speed play up a little bit. It also gives the attack more information to use when it comes to handling modifications to those attack dice; not much point spending a TL or Focus when that Interceptor already rolled 3 evades to your 3 dice.

While the specific rules aren't too hard to remember I like to think of things as when you roll dice you get the last say when it comes to modifying those dice. You roll attack then your opponent needs to make all his modifications before you make any of yours while if you roll defense the other guy modifies those dice before you get to.