Major Rhymer

Munitions failsafe

Ruthlessness

Advan Torpido

2x Cluster Missiles

Proton Bomb

3x Black Squad Ties

Ruthlessness

So the idea is to toss out lots of unstopable damage. Question is with Cluster missiles if both attacks hit does that mean ruthless goes off twice?

Vader

Engine Upgrade

Ruthlessness

Cluster Missiles

Soontir Fel

Experimental interface

Ruthlessness

Turr Phinnir

Veteran insticts

Idea here is to move around alot and keep from getting shot.

Experimental interface doesn't do anything on Soontir if he doesn't have an EPT with an "Action:" header.

Also, yes Cluster Missiles would trigger Ruthlessness twice if they both hit.

Your first list is frankly going to fail hard. You have 49 points invested into a ship that only has 6 hull and could easily be focused down and blown up in 1 round of shooting. Its pushing Falcon/Decimator level worth of points. Rhymer will never be able to shoot all the ordnance he is loaded with. I would drop the APT, Proton Bomb, and MF on Rhymer. That will give you 12 points and let you throw in another Academy. Rhymer will be still pretty **** pricey at 37 points, but he won't be ridiculous. Really I don't see the need to throw Ruthlessness on all the BSP, but I guess it could work if you fly out of formation. Otherwise you are going to end up with a lot of friendly fire. Do you actually own 4 Decimators to run 4 copies of Ruthlessness?

On the second list, stmack is right, EI is doing nothing on Soontir but wasting 3 points. It will only go off with an EPT that has a Action header in its description. But don't look for an EPT with an action header for Soontir to run EI. Forget EI and run PTL. It really is the only thing you should ever consider on Soontir. Some people will throw Daredevil on him, but they are silly. With PTL on Soontir you can throw a TC or HU on him. I like the TC which allows you to be TL + Focused most turns.

Idea here is to move around alot and keep from getting shot.

You got the right idea

I agree that the first list throws too many points on something without good defense. It will die to fast.

The second list is better. Personally, I would go with Concussion Missiles or Homing Missile on Vader. Yes, you would get 2 hits out of Cluster, but you have to hit with both. Since they are both 3 dice and you don't get to modify them, then it can be hard. If you took Concussion, then at least one blank is turned into a hit and any eyeball can be focused for a it. Your chances of doing damage are a lot higher. It might be better to one concentrated hit that actually hurts and then splash once off that. Homing Missile combined with Focus from Vader would give you a good chance of hitting. Also, no one is allowed to use an evade token, so I think that includes the free C-3PO one, as well.

No i don't own 4 decamators sure i will as i have 2 sons who insist on having there own ships .

So the second list now looks like this.

Vader

Engine Upgrade

Ruthlessness

Proton Missiles

Fel

Targeting Comp

PTL

Turr

Targeting Comp

VI

Being my oldest is currently obsessed with his bomber can anyone help me out making a better list that includes it.