H-wing

By TIE Pilot, in X-Wing

I don't think I am over interpreting anything. The story source for the e-wing is possibly being rendered null and void by the new movies. The new movies have a new x-wing design, which the e-wing was supposed to replace. The e-wing may now be an older design, rather than a new republic.

The RPG lines have the default setting placed at just after the destruction of the first death star.

The new canon is going to be a great source of new material, so why not make ships that exist in the invalidated future, current designs? Then they can co-exist with the new canon that is all new media.

Yeah sure, they can really do whatever they want with the canon. That's true.

I think it's far more likely that they will draw on the EU for inspiration, but will be moving the story in their own direction. That panders to EU snobs like me, they get to write their own stories, and fans that are less invested in the EU don't notice the difference.

On the other hand, I can't imagine what good retconning E-wings into Pre-Endor existence would do anyone. We already know the picture is post clone wars because there are two TIE Bizzaros, and TIEs are empire-onwards. So either you make the E-Wing a precursor to the X-wing, a contemporary (that doesn't show up in movies), or keep it as a successor (like it was before). Seems like the infinitely less painful thing to do is just keep them post-Endor. Also, ditto for those TIEs, which are in pretty much the same boat as the E-wing.

Personally, it seems obvious that this is a scene in a ship graveyard, and the ships could be ancient by the time an E-wing and two TIE-Bizzaros fly through.

*EDIT*

How about that ugly H-Wing!

Edited by Babaganoosh

I don't think I am over interpreting anything. The story source for the e-wing is possibly being rendered null and void by the new movies. The new movies have a new x-wing design, which the e-wing was supposed to replace. The e-wing may now be an older design, rather than a new republic.

The RPG lines have the default setting placed at just after the destruction of the first death star.

The new canon is going to be a great source of new material, so why not make ships that exist in the invalidated future, current designs? Then they can co-exist with the new canon that is all new media.

But, even in the fiction, the E-wing never truly replaced the X-wing.

And I think it is rather obvious that that one image is a dog fight in an old battleground.

Edited by Sithborg

NOTHING ever replaces the X-Wing. NOTHING.

Until the new canon contradicts the existence of the E-Wing i don't think anything about its story should be changed. The new X-Wings are perhaps MkII versions of the ship. Improved versions of the ship like any Fighter in WWII also had. While the E-Wing could very well still be the successor model.

But back on topic, i would totally buy the H-Wing. It has the kind of rugged, trashy flair i like on some rebel ships!

Edited by ForceM

I'll take the ship on the cover though!

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I love this picture.

doubile post

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I love this picture.

Hold on for a second, E-wing with Clone War Venerator Star Destroyers (which got replaced by Victory Class which got replaced by Imperial Class) and a Droid Control Ship? :blink:

What happen did an anti-time anomaly from Star Trek rip through that galaxy and shuffled the timelines together? :huh:

This is getting more mixed up than the Legend Zelda time line :unsure:

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Hold on for a second, E-wing with Clone War Venerator Star Destroyers (which got replaced by Victory Class which got replaced by Imperial Class) and a Droid Control Ship? :blink:

What happen did an anti-time anomaly from Star Trek rip through that galaxy and shuffled the timelines together? :huh:

Right so much wrong with that picture, not that it's a bad piece of art just wildly wrong concerning the ship's it portrays.

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I love this picture.

Hold on for a second, E-wing with Clone War Venerator Star Destroyers (which got replaced by Victory Class which got replaced by Imperial Class) and a Droid Control Ship? :blink:

What happen did an anti-time anomaly from Star Trek rip through that galaxy and shuffled the timelines together? :huh:

Ship graveyard. TIE Hunters mean this is Imperial Era at minimum. No cause for alarm.

Ships that low would be pulled into a decaying orbit and would not be there 20 years after being dumped.

Hold on for a second, E-wing with Clone War Venerator Star Destroyers (which got replaced by Victory Class which got replaced by Imperial Class) and a Droid Control Ship? :blink:

What happen did an anti-time anomaly from Star Trek rip through that galaxy and shuffled the timelines together? :huh:

Right so much wrong with that picture, not that it's a bad piece of art just wildly wrong concerning the ship's it portrays.

I don't see anything wrong with it, what are you seeing? The TIE hunter's lasers were chin mounted, apparently, if that's what you're thinking. I checked that in a clip of the game they appear in, Rogue Squadron 3 I think.

Ships that low would be pulled into a decaying orbit and would not be there 20 years after being dumped.

Oh; physics objection!

Yeah, almost definitely right. But star wars has always had little use for real life physics, no need to hold this particular artist accountable for all those accumulated physics sins, I think.

Of all the ships they could of used they go with something that appeared in a magazine that wasn't even an official star wars magazine and never once mentioned again. Nice job FFG, maybe they could I dunno use one of the other ships that have more than one reference and never used again. Like a K-Wing, or an IRD Fighter, or how about a Preybird fighter. The Preybird especially had a major part in a bunch of novels and even in a video game. Toscan Fighters, the Planetary Defender fighter. oh oh I know how about the Cloakshape fighter. That thing got mentioned just about any time pirates showed up, comics, novels, video games...the Cloakshape was everywhere for a while.

The R-41 Starchaser showed up quite a few times in novels and games, another little ship you guys might of heard mentioned once or twice, the Skipray blastboat. I think it might of had a "minor" part in a couple stories. Or hey how about a T-Wing, everyone used the T-Wing. Rebels, pirates, smugglers, planetary governments. Or how about Black Sun's replacement for the Starviper, the Supa Fighter (not the most original name Super fighter!).

ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME.

HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING AMONGST A GRAVEYARD.

Essentially a Y-wing dial, 2/1/5/2, comes with a crew slot, a turret slot, a cannon slot, a system slot, and two torpedo slots.

Includes an Ion Cannon, a Fire-Control System, and a new HLC Turret.

Still ugly as sin and really shouldn't make it into X-wing.

ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME.

HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING AMONGST A GRAVEYARD.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!

Essentially a Y-wing dial, 2/1/5/2, comes with a crew slot, a turret slot, a cannon slot, a system slot, and two torpedo slots.

Includes an Ion Cannon, a Fire-Control System, and a new HLC Turret.

Still ugly as sin and really shouldn't make it into X-wing.

All possible. I'm not putting money on seeing the H-wing in XWM, but I think we all have to admit the list of available rebel ships for new waves is a short one, and not very appealing. It's a strong contender for a spot in our favorite game if they're taking the time to include it in another game, though.

Why so much complaint about this graveyard battle, when nobody complained about the Predator card art?

Predator.pngThese ships are even shooting lasers!

A reminder of things:

This is for the Age of Rebellion Role Playing Game, not X-wing. There are probably at least a dozen more ships in that book, once again for the rpg, so ships for the rpg have to be good for a group of characters.

Any conjecture about the appearance of the e-wing and TIE hunter by me, are done from the standpoint that the canon status of these ships is being altered to include them prior to any previous introduction. This is so to include the ships some people will like, regardless of whether the new canon overites their inclusion from whatever medium shows up. This is conjecture. However, the rpg is set in the default time of just after the destruction of the first death star. Some of the ships don't exist for quite some time.

This is an role playing game supplement, not an X-wing one. Don't panic. Hypothesis on statistics for the ships if you want, but realize it is NOT FOR THIS GAME. At least, not yet.

Why so much complaint about this graveyard battle, when nobody complained about the Predator card art?

Predator.pngThese ships are even shooting lasers!

Dunno'. I guess people's eyes are only good when things are absolutely obvious in front of them- haters anyway.

I figured it was well known that Clone Wars era ships saw Galactic Civil War use.

Why so much complaint about this graveyard battle, when nobody complained about the Predator card art?

Predator.pngThese ships are even shooting lasers!

Dunno'. I guess people's eyes are only good when things are absolutely obvious in front of them- haters anyway.

I figured it was well known that Clone Wars era ships saw Galactic Civil War use.

Look up Disaster at Tingel Deepspace Besh

As for the H-wing it looks ugly as hell as if someone tried to pass off a random doodle as a ship. Also someone asked if the E-wing is likable why not this? All I can say is the E-wing at least looks like a ship that works. Whether you think the design is good or bad is down to personal opinion, I happen to love it but the H-wing looks like space-steak to me.

Edited by Wraithdt

Still not as ugly and poorly designed as an e-wing..

Until you look at the picture again and see that the turret laser is set in between the two cockpit bubbles. That should make turning the turret interesting.

I know it could be elevated pre-turn but still, who designs a turret like that?

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how about no more rebel turret ships with crew. NO.

we have the Falcon R1-3

we ahve the outrider R2-3, 4 dice

we have the Ywing R1-2

we have the HWK R1-2

we even have the decimator now, R1-3/ NO TMORE TURRETS.

Make me an arc. heck, make me a jedi starfighter. stop it with the stupid deisgns.

When does Age of Rebellion take place ? E-Wings weren't even in development until well after Endor. It was around 6 or 7 years after Endor when they went into production. I know the old EU is gone and everything, but if FFG is going to use it atleast try to respect the old EU timeline to some degree.

how about no more rebel turret ships with crew. NO.

we have the Falcon R1-3

we ahve the outrider R2-3, 4 dice

we have the Ywing R1-2

we have the HWK R1-2

we even have the decimator now, R1-3/ NO TMORE TURRETS.

Make me an arc. heck, make me a jedi starfighter. stop it with the stupid deisgns.

Or you can acceptt that turrets are a part of the game, and will still come out. Personally, I don't see the harm of adding more ships with the turret upgrade slot.

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E-wings and TIE hunters among prequel-era Venator class and Trade Federation donuts? What gives!?

The old legends fiction is mostly disregarded. The e-wing may not be a new republic design, as with episode VII, there may not be a new republic. Sorry if that is a potential spoiler, but you can't comment on the status of a ship unless you factor in the potential throwing out of the expandes universe source.

No it isnt... Even then the movie takes place like 30 years after EP 6. E-Wings had there 2nd block 6 years after EP6

What is the ship on the cover?

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Super ARC aka Derpy Hooves lemon surprise!

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I love this picture.

Quick Cloud destroy tha gate!

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I love this picture.

Hold on for a second, E-wing with Clone War Venerator Star Destroyers (which got replaced by Victory Class which got replaced by Imperial Class) and a Droid Control Ship? :blink:

What happen did an anti-time anomaly from Star Trek rip through that galaxy and shuffled the timelines together? :huh:

This is getting more mixed up than the Legend Zelda time line :unsure:

If it were a resent battle it would have been caused by Corp fleet heading through this sector triggering a trap left by SEPs who paged the CORPs as really being REPs because of the ships. The REBs were in the area looking for salvage while the Storm Commandos were paid to guard the CORPs because they have a Commander and Chief with them to inspect a fule processing station in the next solar system. Interference caused them to leave hyperspace.

Or its a graveyard made of OLD dead ships slowly being pulled to the planet.

ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME.

HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING AMONGST A GRAVEYARD.

Its not like the first apperance of the TIE Hunter took place at a Clone Wars era warzone.