This is supposedly Episode VII's opening crawl, obviously, like most things it could just be wild speculation.

But there is one particular line that made it seem plausible as the opening.

You see i think the plot is going to be one of the skywalker children going 'dark side' and finding his 'grandads' remains and being guided by the spirit of the emperor.

Kenobi died but then spent three films giving Luke pastoral advice. Yoda dies and is still able to manifest.

The emperor is stronger than both of those... his body is dead... he could certainly manifest himself spiritually with the force though.

crawl could be pukka... its also not like the most imaginative and anyone who has seen the teaser could have cobbled that together.

I'd expect something a bit more punchy for a new SW film

The rumor mill is also on overdrive.

Ships supposedly in conceptual art and possibly in Episode VII.

Other ships we will see in the film are the Inquisitor command ship, Serkis' ship, a larger Star Destroyer variant that is not a SSD, a plethora of "pirate hideout smuggler transports", Stormtrooper dropships, a "Coruscant ship", "Sella's envoy ship", Kira's clunky transport ship, and a Mon Cal flagship.

There is no Rogue Squadron in the film, but we will see X-Wings both old and new.

Man i hope all of that is true.

sounds epic

Lines up with the rumors I heard earlier this year and everything in the trailer we saw.

But there is one particular line that made it seem plausible as the opening.

Hope dwindles as Imperial Star Destroyers [1] bare down on Tatooine [2], carrying relentless Inquisitors [3] on the hunt for an artifact [4] that may change everything ...

1. Every movie in The Original Trilogy opened with a Star Destroyer.

In A New Hope's Iconic Scene - Devastator

In The Empire Strikes Back - Avenger launches a probe droid that will find Echo Base [much later the distinction is given to Stalker]

In Return of the Jedi - A trio of Star Destroyers brings the Dark Lord to the Death Star II over the sanctuary moon of Endor, Avenger, Devastator and Stalker. [some later source material list Adjudicator instead of Devastator]

Coincidentally the Thrawn Trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn Duology all open with a Star Destroyer as well - Chimaera.

2. Echoing A New Hope, Tatooine would be the ideal planet for the new movies to begin. It has been in five of the movies and there are few other locales more Iconic than Tatooine.

3. Rebels is pushing the idea of the Inquisitors, and we know that Rebels in now canon. The Inquisitors had their start with West End Games, I am smiling broadly at that.

4. Rumored to be Luke's lightsaber from A New Hope which he lost in The Empire Strikes Back. Entirely plausible as we see a lightsaber at Kira's speeders side in the trailer. And more importantly it has been reported and confirmed that the lightsaber sound at the end of the trailer is indeed Luke's lightsaber.

For a ball of dust on the outer rim tatooine sure gets alot of traffic.

That's beyond spoilage if true. Just giving away every scene.

That's beyond spoilage if true. Just giving away every scene.

Pretty typical jj then, I knew how lost would end before the first season was over, just like you knew Kirk would not die because they brought the tribble back to life before we even got to the third act.

yeah but you dont stop liking a film because you know whats going to happen.

You watch it to see how well executed it is, to fall into that universe for an hour or so, to see it unravel.

it doesnt matter if you know whats going to happen.

did anyone go to see 'valkeyrie' wondering if the plot would work?

You know hitler dies, doesnt stop you watching the film and being excited.

Any WWII film... if its based on a real battle then you've a fair idea who wins at the end...

any historical film for that matter.

all this 'spoiler' buthurt is mental.

My mate once 'defriended' me on FB for a week because i mentioned how the red wedding in the tv game of thrones was toss compared to the book version and pointed out that it didnt matter because the woman who dided next to rob stark didnt exist and his real wife was 200 miles away.

he got really pissy and i was like 'dude, its been a best selling fantasy series for a decade... the episode was called 'red wedding' you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know it was going to be a massacre'

I know most stuff thats going to happen in GOT as ive read all the books (altought the series is on a massive tangent at times) , i dont find it spoils my enjoyment... im still in 'westeros' for an hour as its beuatifully realised.

Knowing who is holding the broadsabre, or who is on the speeder bike or why the black ST is in the desert is *not* going to damage my enjoyment of watching the falcon dogfight four ties over tattooine.

I didn't bother with Valkyrie but not because i knew what happened in history, i'm just not really that into WW2 movies.

Some people really go too far with spoiler hatred my mate dave got told the plane lands safely at the end of snakes on a plane and he threw the most stupid tantrum.

I do like going in not knowing and being surprised like with the red wedding, deliberately haven't read the books so just like to take twists and turns as they come.

Yeah i can get that and obviously i dont want full disclousure and to read the script in advance but *if* someone told me the gist of EPVII now i'd be excited (perhaps too early) not stroppy.

Its the way its acted i want to be entralled by, the developing story.

im not there for a cheap 'twist' thats going to throw me and make me go 'oooh clever'. If the film cant keep me there with acting, set and costume and the magic of star wars then no amount of shocker reveal is going to help

Lines up with the rumors I heard earlier this year and everything in the trailer we saw.

What Lackie typed, it matches up with my research too.

Luke is going to be fun and crazy in this new film.

Some (including me) think that sith guy might even be Luke, hunting up his past to clear his mind... dunno, but it is fun to think about.

Man i hope all of that is true.

sounds epic

I think it IS true...

Sounds like it might be pretty good. The spoiler says 99% of the EU is out the window, but that's likely a huge exaggeration.

At least concepts of the EU sound like they lived, Imperial remnant, Han & Leias kids, etc.

Man i hope all of that is true.

sounds epic

I think it IS true...

In 2-3 weeks we'll find out if this Spoilerman guy is legit or not. If what he says turns out to be true then I think we have something potentially awesome to look forward to next Dec.

The EU was bound to have some things in common with Ep 7. Han and Leia get together, so sure they'll have kids, and sure there will be some conflict around them. Star Wars is partly about family.

It also only makes sense that Imperial remnants would exist despite falling into chaos after the death of the Emperor, some cells operating better than others.

Meh..... I hope this isn't it, decades of war? It would have to end eventually, even the EU knew that, Luke a myth? He's a freaking general in the Alliance, this must mean both the Death Stars, Alderaan, and Darth Vader are all myths too.

Meh..... I hope this isn't it, decades of war? It would have to end eventually, even the EU knew that, Luke a myth? He's a freaking general in the Alliance, this must mean both the Death Stars, Alderaan, and Darth Vader are all myths too.

Why would war ever end? It can't even end on one planet (ours) what makes you think an entire galaxy would become peaceful.

I think by myth is that people born after the BoE only heard about him in stories, etc. It sounds like he goes into seclusion after the events of ROTJ. If no one has seen him in +25 years, you might start to think did he exist at all?

Meh..... I hope this isn't it, decades of war? It would have to end eventually, even the EU knew that, Luke a myth? He's a freaking general in the Alliance, this must mean both the Death Stars, Alderaan, and Darth Vader are all myths too.

Why would war ever end? It can't even end on one planet (ours) what makes you think an entire galaxy would become peaceful.

I think by myth is that people born after the BoE only heard about him in stories, etc. It sounds like he goes into seclusion after the events of ROTJ. If no one has seen him in +25 years, you might start to think did he exist at all?

Lol you didn't read my comment..... I never said war would end, I said THAT particular war should have ended a LONG time ago. Either way, it still doesn't sound very exciting.

Lol you didn't read my comment..... I never said war would end, I said THAT particular war should have ended a LONG time ago. Either way, it still doesn't sound very exciting.

Don't ever say, "lol you didn't read my comment.". No, he did, your comment just wasn't very good.

Yeah, the war would persist. Think about how gigantic the galaxy is.

Of course Luke is a myth. Everything he did, while known to be fact, was absolutely legendary. And where is the last Jedi going to go after RoTJ? Hiding, I expect. After being regarded as responsible for both Vader and Palpatine's death, do you really think that Luke would ever have a safe day in his life again? I should hope not. So what does he do? Run off into obscurity. That's what I'd do, at least.

But really, consider how big the galaxy is, and how utterly f*cking retarded it was that The Rebellion just... took Coruscant directly after Endor. That was THE dumbest part of post RoTJ EU. I'm glad that appears to be f*cking dead because it was beyond stupid as hell. So, the rag tag Rebellion tips over the establishment briefly, gains significant power but face the facts here...

They were legitimately seen as terrorists by trillions of people. They will never be as lauded as the EU expects us to believe they were. So The Empire would always have backing.

Also, it's only been 34ish years.

You tell me.

When JFK was killed, did The United States fall over and stop working?

Lol you didn't read my comment..... I never said war would end, I said THAT particular war should have ended a LONG time ago. Either way, it still doesn't sound very exciting.

Don't ever say, "lol you didn't read my comment.". No, he did, your comment just wasn't very good.

Yeah, the war would persist. Think about how gigantic the galaxy is.

Of course Luke is a myth. Everything he did, while known to be fact, was absolutely legendary. And where is the last Jedi going to go after RoTJ? Hiding, I expect. After being regarded as responsible for both Vader and Palpatine's death, do you really think that Luke would ever have a safe day in his life again? I should hope not. So what does he do? Run off into obscurity. That's what I'd do, at least.

But really, consider how big the galaxy is, and how utterly f*cking retarded it was that The Rebellion just... took Coruscant directly after Endor. That was THE dumbest part of post RoTJ EU. I'm glad that appears to be f*cking dead because it was beyond stupid as hell. So, the rag tag Rebellion tips over the establishment briefly, gains significant power but face the facts here...

They were legitimately seen as terrorists by trillions of people. They will never be as lauded as the EU expects us to believe they were. So The Empire would always have backing.

Also, it's only been 34ish years.

You tell me.

When JFK was killed, did The United States fall over and stop working?

34ish years for a Rebellion.... That's a REALLY long time. You're not Luke, he's a freaking jedi, anyone else in the Rebellion would have the same death mark on their head, Leia, Mon Mothma, and Wedge especially; Han had one but he didn't just go and hide. also just take Coruscant??? That's two years later! TWO YEARS!!!!. Also not trillions of people, because most aliens or anyone that wasn't from a core world would have a sense of what's going on. I'm not going to make a comment about JFK because I don't want to get into a political argument, but the sudden death of a president isn't quite the same as the sudden death of a dictator with no heir, and I never said it would fall over and stop working, but 34 years is a LONG time to be fighting a Rebellion. I know you are vocal supporter of new movies, but I'm not. I never asked for new movies, I just wanted to keep reading my books, and playing my games.

Not Rebellion really anymore after Endor. Its really a galactic civil war. The Empire held a crap ton of territory at the time the OT. To think that it all just dissolved in a few years is a silly proposition. The Empire already had infrastructure, government, security in place that the Alliance would take years to establish or take over.

Lol you didn't read my comment..... I never said war would end, I said THAT particular war should have ended a LONG time ago. Either way, it still doesn't sound very exciting.

Don't ever say, "lol you didn't read my comment.". No, he did, your comment just wasn't very good.

Yep, exactly.

I'm hoping this isn't a real spoiler, mostly because:

Decades of unending war mean that the final battle against the Emperor was kinda meaningless.

It reeks of "We saw Rebels, here's tie ins!"

There aren't mentions of X-Wings or A-Wings striking from a secret rebel base.