George Lucas

By Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, in X-Wing

George Lucas:

Set up LucasFilm, Industrial Light and Magic (has made visual effects for over 300 films), Skywalker Sound (about 30 films a year, have won 18 Academy Awards) and Pixar, all of which have done massively more than just Star Wars, has made a huge number of films, has used his fortune (including a lot of the Disney sale) in a wide range of philanthropic endeavours. The Rebels series that gets talked about a lot on this forum and despite being a kids show is fairly popular? That's an evolution of Clone Wars which George Lucas was directly behind. Also behind LucasArts which, while it may have got to **** in its last few years due to severe mismanagement issues, produced a huge and wide ranging amount of material since it opened in 1982. Monkey Island springs to mind. Oh, and he's why credits are at the end of films.

This is barely scratching the surface.

But no, he made three films that weren't as critically acclaimed as three other films he made (they were still massive box office successes and the people who claim to loathe them "because it's cool" are not the majority), and thus he deserves to be hounded and mocked by a massive internet circlejerk for the rest of his days.

He also really really wanted Indiana Jones to be a Pedophile

The only complaint I have with the prequels outside of dialogue is the midichlorians.

That's really dumb. The force didn't need a backstory, but I suppose it makes reading potential jedi easier than everyone walking around essentially saying "I have a feeling about this"

But if it's just a parasite there's no reason you cant just infect a whole bunch of people and make an army, when the force was the life of the universe with a will it used to carry out through gifted individuals it made sense why jedi were rare, now you just get cooties and pow super powers.

But if it's just a parasite there's no reason you cant just infect a whole bunch of people and make an army, when the force was the life of the universe with a will it used to carry out through gifted individuals it made sense why jedi were rare, now you just get cooties and pow super powers.

True that, especially when cloning's possible. Which begs the question, why didn't they just clone Darth Maul? Sidious could have had an army of thousands of red-faced, dual-bladed lightsaber wielding bad actors...

Yep that is why i hated the whole idea.

As a kid who grew up through the whole kung fu/karate craze that was pretty much side by side with my love of star wars the idea that jedi's were a bit like Buddhist warrior monks was quite cool. The fact there was a loosely defined 'sprituality' or at worst 'magic' to the 'force' was epic but to make it essentially like having nitts was a very uncool.

But if it's just a parasite there's no reason you cant just infect a whole bunch of people and make an army, when the force was the life of the universe with a will it used to carry out through gifted individuals it made sense why jedi were rare, now you just get cooties and pow super powers.

True that, especially when cloning's possible. Which begs the question, why didn't they just clone Darth Maul? Sidious could have had an army of thousands of red-faced, dual-bladed lightsaber wielding bad actors...

A man clearly hired because he could 'dance' rather than orate...

Continuity revsion/f*ck up number 357 in an occasional series.

Boba Fett has his voice redubbed to have a new zealand accent because jango fett did.

WTF

His dad died when he was seven and he travels the galaxy but keeps a childhood accent.

My dad died when i was a teenager but I didnt have his broad north staffs accent even when i was a kid. I certainly dont sound anything like him these days.

But in the star wars universe your accent must be genetically coded into you if you're a clone... even if you dont see another clone with that accent (or anyone else in the galaxy for that matter for 30 years).

Boba Fett didnt say much but he was cool and menacing... totally unneccesary redub

The biggest problem with the sequels is that there is no Han Solo character. I don't mean someone who is just too cool for the acadamy either. He's the middle ground that most people can relate to, and the outlaw everyone wishes they could be.

Think about it like this. You have the Empire on one side, an all powerful over reaching oppressive government that is corrupt and evil at it's core. Then you have the Rebels. Holy Sith! Those guys are bull goose loco (sorry, I'm letting a bit of redneck show there). They're a bunch of star-eyed do-gooders. An entire army of Captain Save-a-hoes with absolutley zero chance of winning this thing.

So now you have Han Solo, a talented, tough, independent guy who simply wants to get a ship, get a crew and keep flying. He hates the Empire, but he's smart enough to know that the Rebels have no chance of winning AND even if they do, they're not gonna make it any easier for guys like him. They're do-gooders after all, and he's got more than a little scoundrel in him. He's just as much male fantasy as James Bond. He's an outlaw biker without a gang. He's James Dean if he wasn't such a wastoid. He's Steve McQueen in a space ship. Then at the end of it all, he's the bad ass that saves the day. All the ladies (even Princesses) want him, and all the guys want to ride shotgun.

Who, for the love of God, in the Prequels even comes close to that?

That is a very good point and sort of what i was getting at when i said there is nobody in the prequels you *care* about

A man clearly hired because he could 'dance' rather than orate...

It's a shame, really. One of the problems with the prequels were that they went through villains like prunes through a pensioner. Too many big baddies, none of them with enough build up or backstory screen time. What the hell was a General Grievious, anyway? Where did it come from? Why? How? Who cares?

Ray Park knows his way around a staff, but without the acting chops he was always destined for the, er, chop. Not that it really mattered, because Christopher Lee's acting chops were wasted as well.

The biggest problem with the sequels is that there is no Han Solo character...

edit: great point - and it doesn't even end with Solo. Solo as the morally ambiguous but generally good guy (and potentially vulnerable) character was relatable, but so was Luke. Luke - the farmhand dreamer with high aspirations, plucked from obscurity and sent on a death-defying mission... also highly relatable for the audience.

None of the characters in the prequels come anywhere near striking a chord as those two. Lando's a more relatable character than any in the prequels.

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And if anyone knows how to fight its christopher lee.

the man was in SOE and hunted and killed nazis and aided the resistance behind the lines in WWII.

True hero playing a villain (and unfortunately not a very good portrayal of a very weak concept villain)

A man clearly hired because he could 'dance' rather than orate...

It's a shame, really. One of the big problems with the prequels were that they went through villains like prunes through a pensioner. Too many big baddies, none of them with enough build up or screen time. What the hell was a General Grievious, anyway?

Ray Park knows his way around a staff, but without the acting chops he was always destined for the, er, chop. Not that it really mattered, because Christopher Lee's acting chops were wasted as well.

And there in lies another failing of the prequels.

Names a 12 year old would come up with that are just too 'obvious'

Darth (in)sidious - the sneaky infiltraing power

Darth Maul - the blunt instrument

General Greivous - well...come on

Darth Tyranus

the old names were just wierd and other worldy, the occasional 'real world' name like ben and luke mixed in but otherwise names like 'annakin', 'obiwan' 'antilles' etc etc

Ok 'han solo' sort of advertised he was a loner but hardly anyone in the OT had their entire reason for existence and personality spelled out in their name.

You know people had believable names to a degree in the OT... even the bit parts like 'admiral piet' or 'general viers' felt real.

And if anyone knows how to fight its christopher lee.

the man was in SOE and hunted and killed nazis and aided the resistance behind the lines in WWII.

True hero playing a villain (and unfortunately not a very good portrayal of a very weak concept villain)

What's SOE?

Sony Online Entertainment?

He also really really wanted Indiana Jones to be a Pedophile

Oooh, what's this about?!

British Secret Service in WWII (special operation exexcutive), their orders to 'set europe ablaze'.

Parachuted into nazi europe and orgaised resistance, did sabotage and assassination.

He also really really wanted Indiana Jones to be a Pedophile

Oooh, what's this about?!

If you do some simple math, and take Marion's quote into account, she was 14-15 years old when she and Indy did the deed.

He also really really wanted Indiana Jones to be a Pedophile

Oooh, what's this about?!

If you do some simple math, and take Marion's quote into account, she was 14-15 years old when she and Indy did the deed.

Not being of a mind to work it out but using the same 'maths' , how old would Indy have been. if he was like 15 or 16 himself its no shocker is it.

teenagers have sex ... cant imagine that *ever* happened in the 20s and 30s :)

If I'm not mistaken he was already a professor at the time.

I cant remember, ages since i've seen the indy films

but yeah that sounds dodgy then.

Its wiki but yeah they didnt think that one through much :)

"Marion entered into a relationship with Indiana Jones during this time, while she was still only 14 years old.[1] Jones abruptly left the Ravenwoods in 1926; Marion was about 16 or 17 years old when the relationship finished, and Jones was 27, ten years her senior. Later in her life, Marion chastised Jones, stating, "I was a child! I was in love! It was wrong and you knew it!" Jones showed little remorse, and simply replied "You knew what you were doing." "

No sure what the age of consent was in 1926. I'd imagine it was about 16 though as it was in the UK with parental concent from the 18th century.

Star Wars "You knew George my father?"

Fans "Yes, before the dark time, before the pre-quells. He was a young director and good writer when I met him."

Star Wars "No, uncle Disney said he was a camera man on the Momma's family show."

Fans "That's what your uncle wants you to believe."

Star Wars "What happened?"

Fans "A young director named Darth profit margin, betrayed and murdered your father."