The End Times baseless speculation thread

By cps, in Dark Heresy General Discussion

They'll make as many as they can before they feel they've milked it for all it's worth.

You have a lot of faith in GW knowing when to quit.

They'll make as many as they can before they feel they've milked it for all it's worth.

You have a lot of faith in GW knowing when to quit.

Never said they ever end up feeling that way. Just that they would stop when that happened.

Once again, back on topic. Let's see, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids, I mentioned Eldar in another thread. What's left? Chaos is almost to Terra.... What would the Dark Eldar be doing in the End Times? In a way they're like the Orks, in that their society is pretty much right where they want it. With all hell breaking loose, what could they do that would be really dramatic?

Once again, back on topic. Let's see, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids, I mentioned Eldar in another thread. What's left? Chaos is almost to Terra.... What would the Dark Eldar be doing in the End Times? In a way they're like the Orks, in that their society is pretty much right where they want it. With all hell breaking loose, what could they do that would be really dramatic?

Party like it was M30.000 ;)

Or they kick that git of a absurdall vect in the groin, leave their webway hidyhole and come back home to mommy!

Slaanesh is waiting...

Ok more seriously either they lock off comarrah and try to survuive the end times, or they go out kicking and screaming, splinter rilfes blazing!

Intrestingly enough in the warhammer world the Slann/lizardmen have offically called it quits and are preparing for exodus! They are like, yeah, the great plan is ruined. It's all f*cked! come on guys we're leaving!

Party like it was M30.000 ;)

GW goes belly up in late 2015 due to a long history of bad decisions and Forge World acquires the 40k IP rights. They continue their line of Horus Heresy minis but with the whole game in their hands, they write a rules system that exists to be played rather than to sell toy soldiers. Warhammer 30,000 sees a resurgence of interest and FW restarts Games Day and hosts tournaments (rather than selling tickets to a giant FW store), and offers multiple entry points to the hobby by bringing back skirmish games.

GW goes belly up in late 2015 due to a long history of bad decisions and Forge World acquires the 40k IP rights. They continue their line of Horus Heresy minis but with the whole game in their hands, they write a rules system that exists to be played rather than to sell toy soldiers. Warhammer 30,000 sees a resurgence of interest and FW restarts Games Day and hosts tournaments (rather than selling tickets to a giant FW store), and offers multiple entry points to the hobby by bringing back skirmish games.

YMMV, but personally I think having only Space Marines and Guardsmen in the game would be a bit boring. :P

They also have admech. yaaaaaaaaaay! finaly we get admech! I kinda dig their tanks tough, with the whole remove the armor and replace it shield generators thing.

But the "party like it was M30" was actually a reference to the birth of slaanesh and the fall of the eldar. *

*and yes that's around M30 because Slaanesh birth screams were said to have blown away the warpstorms that surrounded terra, leaving the the path open for the emperor to start his conquest... So In a way, Slaanesh gave birth to the Imperium! Yeah, take that loyalists! :D )

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Aren't Horus Heresy books written out of order?

Some of them, they mostly follow the events from the luna wolves becoming the sons of horus, to istvan III, flight of the eisenstein

and then a whole lot happens at once it seems and now we've left behind the dropsite massacres.

But there are also some novels who take place before istvan III, like the dark angels, and those dealing with the council of nikea.

And that's before you add in the one with the time traveling, forshadowing of things from 40k, etc.

GW goes belly up in late 2015 due to a long history of bad decisions and Forge World acquires the 40k IP rights. They continue their line of Horus Heresy minis but with the whole game in their hands, they write a rules system that exists to be played rather than to sell toy soldiers. Warhammer 30,000 sees a resurgence of interest and FW restarts Games Day and hosts tournaments (rather than selling tickets to a giant FW store), and offers multiple entry points to the hobby by bringing back skirmish games.

Warhammer 30,000 would be the point were I finally would leave the franchise for Infinity, Malifaux, Deadzone or whatever other miniature systems there are; anything but Space Marines Ahoy: the Game.

Anything but space marines?.. I think you should read a little about what the nascent Imperium was facing at those times.

GW goes belly up in late 2015 due to a long history of bad decisions and Forge World acquires the 40k IP rights. They continue their line of Horus Heresy minis but with the whole game in their hands, they write a rules system that exists to be played rather than to sell toy soldiers. Warhammer 30,000 sees a resurgence of interest and FW restarts Games Day and hosts tournaments (rather than selling tickets to a giant FW store), and offers multiple entry points to the hobby by bringing back skirmish games.

Warhammer 30,000 would be the point were I finally would leave the franchise for Infinity, Malifaux, Deadzone or whatever other miniature systems there are; anything but Space Marines Ahoy: the Game.

I hope you got your malifaux figs all ready to go! :D Because: Forgeworld has 4 massive army books based soley on the Horus Heresy SM legions! That's right! nothing but marines, ad mech and titans...and as of book 4: knights!

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Malifaux was the game that I escaped to when I got fed up with Warhammer. Then they revamped the entire game and redid all the miniatures, and that was when I gave up on wargaming completely.

Malifaux was the game that I escaped to when I got fed up with Warhammer. Then they revamped the entire game and redid all the miniatures, and that was when I gave up on wargaming completely.

Auch! To bad man. Malifaux seemed pretty original to me. (But never got into it on account of already folowing waaay to may LCG CCG and dice games)

Anything but space marines?.. I think you should read a little about what the nascent Imperium was facing at those times.

I'd be down for seeing some new xeno factions based off the stuff humanity bumped into during the Great Crusade to replace the Tau, Necrons, and Tyranids who aren't around at the time.

The Laer were pretty cool in the original white dwarf aricle about the emperor's children. To bad that didn't quite come across in the novel. Also Fulgrim's legion pwned them in a month...

Anything but space marines?.. I think you should read a little about what the nascent Imperium was facing at those times.

Other Space Marines? :D

That being said, whilst I can't speak for Johkmil, my comment was primarily a jab at Forgeworld's catalogue being a bit .... shall we say "one-sided".

Anything but space marines?.. I think you should read a little about what the nascent Imperium was facing at those times.

Other Space Marines? :D

That being said, whilst I can't speak for Johkmil, my comment was primarily a jab at Forgeworld's catalogue being a bit .... shall we say "one-sided".

Hard to argue with you there. But it has admech! Legio cybernetica and Ordo reductor FTW!

And they have Primarch models! I really like Conra-err Nighthaunter . Who now thinks he's the predator, with those blades on his wrist.

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Edited by Robin Graves

I've actually though about that too, from time to time. New species, that is. Only problem was finding some theme of army that hadn't already been covered in some way by the other factions already present. Robots? Check. Space monsters? Check. Alien alliances? Check.

Then there's the fantasy equivalents converted to scifi. Elves? Check. Orcs? Check. Undead? Check. Demonic forces? Check. You'd have to get pretty obscure to find something else that could be expanded upon enough to become a noteworthy faction.

Hmmm.... Where are dragons represented in 40k?

I've actually though about that too, from time to time. New species, that is. Only problem was finding some theme of army that hadn't already been covered in some way by the other factions already present. Robots? Check. Space monsters? Check. Alien alliances? Check.

Then there's the fantasy equivalents converted to scifi. Elves? Check. Orcs? Check. Undead? Check. Demonic forces? Check. You'd have to get pretty obscure to find something else that could be expanded upon enough to become a noteworthy faction.

Hmmm.... Where are dragons represented in 40k?

Eldar exodites? No wait thats's dinosaurs!

Hell yeah man, i'd love to see me some space dragons (similar to those from galactic empires CCG)

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Or some race based on 50's science fiction, with flying saucers and rayguns, etc. Basically the martians from mars attacks, but then not martians because the admech rules mars now.

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Or space lizarmen! (Gorn!) 40k used to have the Slann, let's put them back in it.

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I could see that happening, given Lizardmen aren't going to be a thing in WHFB in the very near future.

The lack of space lizardmen is kind of odd given how popular lizardman aliens already are. Other fantasy races not yet tapped: Trolls, vampires (technically there are vampires in 40k, but they've gotten very little love), grey renders, beholders (technically copyrighted by D&D but you can get the same basic concept across while dodging the copyright, like Guild Wars did with their storm riders). You could also take the extant Hrud and give them a spitshine. Or if you're feeling really ambitious, see if you can fight the lingering spectre of the Squats and introduce space dwarves into 40k without getting laughed out of your FLGS. The other well you can go back to is 80s movies. 40k has Terminator and Aliens, but not yet Robocop. Granted, that probably be some Arbites thing rather than a xeno species, but it's still odd that they haven't done that one yet. 40k also hasn't had its obligatory Cthulhu-themed expansion yet, although Chaos sometimes comes off as a really poor imitation of Cthulhu. Still plenty of room in the setting for a proper sea-themed incomprehensible horror xeno.

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Ponies.

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With regard to new aliens, I had been hoping for a long time that GW would put out a Codex: Mercenaries , featuring 'minor' xeno races that could be 'hybrided' to existing armies. This would finally allow minis for aliens that have been mentioned for years (Hrud, Tarellians, etc), plus some new stuff. With the surprise inclusion of a bunch of new xenotypes in the last Codex: Dark Eldar , it seemed that the studio sculptors were really pushing for the chance to design some new races. But with GW now imploding due to a grocery list of bad decisions, that ship has almost certainly sailed...