stupid question how many times can you search a token ?

many thanks

I believe that if you read the searching rules, your answer you will find...

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One time, it seems obvious doesn't it ? Since the token must be discarded when you got your reward...

If there's only 1 search token, you can spend all the encounter so search the full search deck, yes why not ?

Creators are stupid guys, they put more of them ! Only one would be enough

If there's only 1 search token, you can spend all the encounter so search the full search deck, yes why not ?

Creators are stupid guys, they put more of them ! Only one would be enough

It's early for me ... and I am old ... and I haven't had my Dt. Mt Dew, but please tell me you are just being a bit snarky here, and are not serious?

Rugal is obviously pointing the fact that this question wasn't only stupid, it was stupid as well.

He is putting the joke a level above, that's all

Rugal is obviously pointing the fact that this question wasn't only stupid, it was stupid as well.

He is putting the joke a level above, that's all

Calm down a bit guys...I can think of a few reasons why this superficially 'stupid' question is not that stupid.

I'll give you a list:

1. Language Problems with non-native speakers (like my humble self)

2. General feeling of being overwhelmed by a lot of rules (specially if you're not used to games like descent)

3. Someone is struggling with a pesky hero player who graps for every straw to sharpen it and drive it through an OL's eye (believe me, as I mentioned in other topics, I regularly have my share of this)

4. Different search tokens in different locations could still be of a point because the hero searching would not have to remain in the same place. And after all it costs an action...

5. Well probably some more....

It was primothy's first post on this forum so he/she might not be used to how things are done/presented here.

Please don't call the question stupid but welcome him and his questions.

WELCOME primothy!

That being said, I'm sure you didn't mean it as offending as it sounded to my eye ;-) .

Cheers,

Folly

Searching in the exact same place to find everything in the entire deck..?

Hmm, sounds too much like Zombicide

Rugal is obviously pointing the fact that this question wasn't only stupid, it was stupid as well.

He is putting the joke a level above, that's all

Calm down a bit guys...I can think of a few reasons why this superficially 'stupid' question is not that stupid.

I'll give you a list:

1. Language Problems with non-native speakers (like my humble self)

2. General feeling of being overwhelmed by a lot of rules (specially if you're not used to games like descent)

3. Someone is struggling with a pesky hero player who graps for every straw to sharpen it and drive it through an OL's eye (believe me, as I mentioned in other topics, I regularly have my share of this)

4. Different search tokens in different locations could still be of a point because the hero searching would not have to remain in the same place. And after all it costs an action...

5. Well probably some more....

It was primothy's first post on this forum so he/she might not be used to how things are done/presented here.

Please don't call the question stupid but welcome him and his questions.

WELCOME primothy!

That being said, I'm sure you didn't mean it as offending as it sounded to my eye ;-) .

Cheers,

Folly

Sorry, but no :

1) I'm not a native speaker, that doesn't change the fact that the answer is right in the searching rule. ANd he doesn't seems to not understand the rest of the rules. So I bet he has a rulebook in a language he understands.

2) Again, I could understand for some rules, but not for something as basic as that. It doesn't even take 30 seconds to check the good rule, and it's not even in a strange place of the rulebook.

3) Same as above.

4) Any hero team would still do only search actions with the first search token in order to have every rewards before moving in another place. There are almost no rewards better than having all the search deck without any difficulty and in only 2-3 turns.

5) Or probably not...

And obviously it wasn't mean to be offensive. It's only a way to make him understand that he should check a little more the rulebook (at least for question as easy as that...) before asking questions. It will make him improve himself as a player.

Moreover, he knew from the beginning that the question was stupid (he said it first), and I'm pretty sure he knew as well that he could find the answer easily if he truly had look for it...

In the first place, he started his question by

stupid question

So, he knew the answer, so why asking it ?

Obviously only primothy can answer your question but as I said I can think of reasons to ask questions I find stupid myself.

I have a hero player who takes all hero boons and twists and turns them as it best suits him but whenever I come up with something nasty he ALWAYS demands that I check whether that is correct. Usually he is not even satisfied with checking the forums no matter how obvious things are. No he wants me to check it with FFG. Which I don't do...

Last time it occured I was playing Basic I with Infector and Zachareth Plot deck, which meant that I had a very slim deck after playing the cards that remain in play once put down. So together with the additional draws from the plot cards I was able to repeatedly play the infector card that assigns damage according to infection tokens. That is potentially lethal for heroes that are already severly damaged.

My favorite player ruled that infection tokens must be discarded after a hero is knocked down...nothing says so but he was adamant and I had to check in the forum (though I was able to find the answer by searching posts) and he wouldn't believe that because it was oh so broken...

He seems to forget that the groups mage does worse things to my monsters via Hex tokens, and they don't even stand up.

I'm not saying that the answer is not obvious in RAW, I'm saying that there are reasons to ask questions that even I find stupid...

This and that are two different matters...

Sorry but we're not speaking here of a complicated rule like infector's tokens. We are speaking about the seaching rule, which is clearly written in the base book. So it would only take him like 30seconds to have his answer.

Instead, he prefers to ask it here, knowing it stupid. That's my problem : asking when you're not sure about a dark rule you find in a corner and a basic one, there is a huge difference.

ANyway, I answered his question. My others sentences was just to make him understand that basics questions mean basics answer that you can obviously find in the rulebook easily.

Agreed and file closed.....

let's hope thoses type of question will not flood over the forum

If there's only 1 search token, you can spend all the encounter so search the full search deck, yes why not ?

Creators are stupid guys, they put more of them ! Only one would be enough

It's early for me ... and I am old ... and I haven't had my Dt. Mt Dew, but please tell me you are just being a bit snarky here, and are not serious?

Rugal is always a bit snarky. And he's usually very serious about it, too. =P

OP: Please don't be scared away by our more... forthright members. =)

This is the very reason I do not give any of my players this forum resource you all sit around waiting to weight in rudely rather then help and share experiences. I have all the items, have run 2 successful coop game nights and run this great game as public play every week at my comic store. I have fielded many questions and have never had to stoop to this level to respond. I only come here now to see how the new expansions are working. I would never ask a question. only to state it is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice!

This is the very reason I do not give any of my players this forum resource you all sit around waiting to weight in rudely rather then help and share experiences. I have all the items, have run 2 successful coop game nights and run this great game as public play every week at my comic store. I have fielded many questions and have never had to stoop to this level to respond. I only come here now to see how the new expansions are working. I would never ask a question. only to state it is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice!

overlord salvatore, please pardon me weighing in here, but I must disagree with you. Except for a small number of exceptions, I find this forum to be a remarkably helpful resource of information, and again, excluding some instances/members, people have civil, constructive discussions even when they vehemently disagree.

Indeed weighting in how very snarky.

You are very correct though that's why I come here and read your posts, many of you are craftsmen at this. I have no problem with banter. But I work very hard yo get us new players and new players are going to ask those kinds of questions.All l ask is have a little kindness ask a question or two before you lambaste the poor individual.

He wasn't intending to be snarky, please calm down. He is quite correct that many of us do our best to be helpful, there are only a couple which are not. Please forgive us for the poor welcome, and we'll be happy to help with any additional questions you have.

I'm still not sorry for what I said :

1) I answered his question

2) There are "questions" and "questions". Something as basic as that shouldn't be ask without even checking the rulebook. Answering a question is suppose to help a player clarify something, not about doing his job. A 8 years old can read and find the searching rule, why the op couldn't ...? Because he didn't do it.

That being said, I agree every question (even the stupid ones) should be answered, because it's the point of this forum anyway. But that doesn't change the fact that I don't find offensive to remind to some lazy people to check rulebook before asking something as basic as that. So keep your white knigh's cloak out of this topic, thanks (for thoses who pull them out).

All questions shouldn't be asked. For a simple reason : if all questions are answered, people would asks more question than read the rulebook, and this forum will be flooded with thoses questions. Then, I would be the first one to be happy to answer questions if some are still here AFTER a carefull rulebook reading session.

As Kyarn says in his 2 : we should'nt do all players' work : answer all questions to avoid him to read the book. Furthermore, the rulebook is avalaible free on this site, so no use to by the game for all players !

White Knight cloak, like it. All good points My response to that question would have been to check the appropriate page and if you still have questions then return . Which is the norm here. But as someone who truly likes gaming and I am trying to bring more into our fold some of you appear angered by what was a simple post. How many of you go to your comic book store and play with the first 4 players who sit down. I meet a lot of people who have not heard of this awesome game. But I cannot read them the directions because they tune out ,so we just play and I teach the rules as we go. Hense someone who played but doesn't own the book may have this kind of question. Then I would tell them about the pdf rulebook. Then come back. Look snark free! Just saying. And I do respect those who have shouldered this forum. Just would appreciate some help here.

Sorry but I don't see any player who don't have the rulebook coming here and ask only one question as much specific as that, and about a basic rule like that.

Any player in this case would come and ask if he could find the rulebook somewhere, or would ask many questions about many things due to the fact that he doesn't have the rulebook. I can't imagine someone who barely knows the game restraining his questions on this only...

Plus in the case you explained, he should have see how searching works if he did a game already.

There is no anger in my posts, but I don't really like posts like this on forums, we see them far too much : a guy come, doesn't even make the simpliest search, ask something and never comeback and/or barely thanks people who helped him. And whatever type of player he is, he is wrong by doing that (having or not the rulebook).

But well, that's my way to see things, I'm not saying I'm the only one right (or wrong).

I'm not angry just disappointed. I mention this site because to my players because I run lots of beta games.You guys are the mechanics ,I'm just a salesmen competing for table space against magic and X- wing and now sw- assault. I want to stay in the top 20 of board game geek. Sorry to have bothered.

Honestly, the more I see your posts, the less I understand what you are saying and what's your point in this topic

Whatever, this topic should have end already since op got his answer (whether he likes or not the way it was introduced to him).

You win?