So here is the new article in case anyone missed it on the homepage:

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=5234

I like the bit about the two additional kajidics specializing in arms/homeworld defense and shadowy black market types.

My question is, how can this still be 'at the printers' and on target for Q4 2014? Are the rpg books much faster to turn around and ship than their other products? Because Imperial Assault has been 'on the boat' for weeks already...

What has been the turnaround on previous books from printers to in-stores; anyone have a guess on that? I'm asking for purely selfish reasons; my preorder of Imperial Assault and Lords of Nal Hutta were placed on the same order at CSI so I won't get either one until both are ready

From what I recall, the On The Boat tends to last about six weeks. The shipping to store takes just over one week - so in theory they still have time to make a End of the Year deadline. Mind you, if it doesn't get off the boat soon, you'll be the celebrating New Years Day with your favorite slug.

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Wait, scratch that - it's still at the printers? We'll see it mid January at best.

Stay on Target has been on the boat since 11/11/14. Even if it shipped to stores by next week, and Lords of Nal Hutta is put on the boat today with the same time frame, we won't see it until the first week of January.

So... Hutts are brawn 3, likely agility 1, willpower 3 likely and others 2.

Have the ponderous quality (only able to spend one maneuver on movement) and likely a wound and strain of at least 12-14 at start. lus I bet discipline of one rank at start.

So... Hutts are brawn 3, likely agility 1, willpower 3 likely and others 2.

Have the ponderous quality (only able to spend one maneuver on movement) and likely a wound and strain of at least 12-14 at start. lus I bet discipline of one rank at start.

That sounds close to what I was imagining. Still would have liked to see a high Cunning, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, so I am fine with all that.

***EDIT***

Wait, scratch that - it's still at the printers? We'll see it mid January at best.

At my local game store they told me, that Fantasy Flight parcels are never on time, but as opposed to other companies, they are sure to arrive. Eventually.

Interesting. I like out it points out various options for Hutt characters besides being the sterotypical crime bosses.

Yeah, I'm thinking this is going to wind up being a Quarter 1 2015 release.

Unless whoever is responsible for updating the "Upcoming Products" page has been on vacation or otherwise not able to update things.

We might get Stay on Target in December, should have by January.

We might get Lords of Hutta by January, should have by February.

We won't even discuss Fly Casual.

Personally I think Hutts make excellent NPCs, as for PCs...I am not sure, but each one to his own at his gaming table.

Regarding the stats, why Brawn 3!!!? Is this something regarding to the EU? I don't picture Hutts as great Athlets or poserfull melee fighters, they are fat bulky slugs! I would go for Brawn 1, Agility 1, Cunning 3 and Willpower 3

Brawn is physical strength... Would you imagine a Hutt to be a weakling?

Personally I think Hutts make excellent NPCs, as for PCs...I am not sure, but each one to his own at his gaming table.

Im with you on this. Im leaning to not even allowing a hutt pc. They are in my universe an antagonist entity.

Personally I think Hutts make excellent NPCs, as for PCs...I am not sure, but each one to his own at his gaming table.

Im with you on this. Im leaning to not even allowing a hutt pc. They are in my universe an antagonist entity.

Brawn is physical strength... Would you imagine a Hutt to be a weakling?

Of course I imagine them as weaklings. The only Hutt I am acquainted with is Jabba the Hutt. He is really fat, but I don't see him as a strong. He for sure has not the profile of an athlet or a fearsome fighter. In the movie, Leia strangles him and he cannot even defend himself... No comments.

That is why I asked if this Brawn 3 is related to something appearing in the EU, because judging what we see in the movies...

Brawn is physical strength... Would you imagine a Hutt to be a weakling?

Of course I imagine them as weaklings. The only Hutt I am acquainted with is Jabba the Hutt. He is really fat, but I don't see him as a strong. He for sure has not the profile of an athlet or a fearsome fighter. In the movie, Leia strangles him and he cannot even defend himself... No comments.

That is why I asked if this Brawn 3 is related to something appearing in the EU, because judging what we see in the movies...

What do you mean "no comments"?

And what does his profile have to do with anything? Have you ever seen Sumo matches? Does guys sure don't look athletic.

And I am pretty sure I would be able to strangel Butterbean or Mike Tyson with a thick chain eventhough I wouldn't be a match for them in a brawl....

My big question is will Hutts be considered silhouette 2. If a speeder bike and land speeder are 2 then Hutts and Herglics should be 2, as well.

We are not talking about sumo fighters or muscular boxers. Ok so, lets make it the other way round. Give a single instance in the movies that justifies Brawn 3 for a Hutt. Like, a good fighting scene (Melee), a feat of strength (Athletics), or a tremendous show of physical resistance (Resilience) and I will agree with you.

Give a single instance in the movies that justifies Brawn 3 for a Trandoshan.

Or a Wookiee? All Chewie did was think with his stomach and get caught in a net...

I don't think Hutt's will have brawn 3. I do think they will added soak, and a cunning of 3.

But if I am wrong, it really won't matter to me. For me Hutt's are the bada$$ masterminds behind the scenes, puling the strings.

We are not talking about sumo fighters or muscular boxers. Ok so, lets make it the other way round. Give a single instance in the movies that justifies Brawn 3 for a Hutt. Like, a good fighting scene (Melee), a feat of strength (Athletics), or a tremendous show of physical resistance (Resilience) and I will agree with you.

How about I provide no such thing and just let you think whatever you want?

You tell me that the profile of a Hutt suggests they are weak, I tell you that I think differently and provide you with a few examples of extremely fat people that seem to be excellent fighters. this is not good enough for you and you ask me to provide an example of a hutt being strong in the movies, which as we all know isn't there as there are 3 Hutts in 6 movies and only 1 that is on screen longer then 5 seconds.

Even if you would believe Jabba to not be strong (in fact, I think he must be strong if only for the fact that he can keep his enormous head up) how much does that really say about hutts in general and young hutts in particular?

Let me illustrate why I think your reasoning is off by asking you a few questions myself... Can you give me an exampe where in the movies I can find that Duro's are smart? Or where it shows that Ithorians have high Willpower? Or that Drall are a very learned people? Or what the cities on Corelia look like?

Let me illustrate why I think your reasoning is off by asking you a few questions myself... Can you give me an exampe where in the movies I can find that Duro's are smart? Or where it shows that Ithorians have high Willpower? Or that Drall are a very learned people? Or what the cities on Corelia look like?

No, I cannot give you examples for that neither. Neither for Trandoshans. At least for wookies we have spoken references from the characters in the movie that justify their physical strength.

I still think that Brawn 3 for Hutts is unjustifed and that high Cunning and Willpower goes first for a Hutt.

So basically there is no point in further discussing this.

We did see examples of Wookiee strength when Chewbacca thrashed the Stormtroopers in the carbon freezing chamber in The Empire Strikes Back.

I think the problem we're having with a Hutt as PC is trying to give them 12 total points of starting characteristics. The truth is, Hutts should have at least 3 in everything except Agility.

Shrug. No big deal. Not all Hutts are Jabba, and Jabba is not representative of all Hutts. Hutts can move, if slowly, and do many other things. There have been Hutt Jedi in the EU. And other types. Are all Trandoshans killer Bounty Hunters? While many Hutts may be comfortable leading a sedentary life, it doesn't mean they all do.

At least we will know WHY!?! the Hutts have Resilence 8! XD