I was talking with my friends, and we were trying to come up with the worst list possible. Imagine that you are playing a game where you get to pick your opponents list, and you want to handicap them as much as you can. Now, obviously, since you could theoretically take nothing, that is the worst list, so there are a few rules:

- The list must be exactly 100 points.

- You cannot take something that has literally no effect (ie. multiple copies of Gunner on one ship, cards that require Energy on a non-huge ship, that kind of thing).

So, I'm curious, what's the worst one you can come up with? Here's my contribution:

Rebel Operative (16)

Gunner (5)

(21)

x4

Rebel Operative (16)

Total: (100)

Alternatively, cut out the naked Operative and put a shield upgrade on each of the others. Pretty boring, but just imagine trying to do any damage with this

Just take all the character HWKs with no turret upgrades for the MEGAULTRASUPERAWESOMETURBO PS 12, Focused and Target-locked, 2 dice shot!

done und dun

HWKs really should be banned from this format

On the plus side you'll get to trigger Gunner a lot.

Maybe two of these:

Gamma Squadron Pilot — TIE Bomber 18

Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6

Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6

Assault Missiles 5

Homing Missiles 5

Proton Bombs 5

Engine Upgrade 4

This is also pretty terrible.

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Darth Vader 3

Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Ysanne Isard 4

Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Weapons Engineer 3

Targeting Computer 2

Three shadow squadron will kill the **** out of the hwk's. I'd go for a refinement of the hwk list:

Dash Rendar (36)
Expose (4)
Ion Cannon (3)
Luke Skywalker (7)
Experimental Interface (3)
Outrider (5)

Rebel Operative (16)
Leia Organa (4)

Rebel Operative (16)
Weapons Engineer (3)
Moldy Crow (3)

Total: 100

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So Dash can't perform primaries, but he has Expose and Luke, hehe. Leia Organa for 3 ships, ugh. Moldy crow + Weapons engineer, you either have a lot of focus, or 2 TLs, all on a 1-dice ship (of course I wasn't going to put it on the other!)

Max damage per turn is 5, asuming you have range 1 on everybody. Normally you shoot 1 ion and 2 1-dice shots.

Pretty terrible if you ask me.

edit: The worst part is I have all the necessary ships (unlike the 5 hwk list), If we ever do a "choose a terrible list for your opponent", I'll be bringing this.

Maarek Stele (27)

“Fel's Wrath” (23)

Captain Jonus (22)

Captain Kagi (27)

99 points

This is also pretty terrible.

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Darth Vader 3

Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Ysanne Isard 4

Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Weapons Engineer 3

Targeting Computer 2

I don't know, depending on what you are up against that might not be too bad. Vader and Isard are both terrible choices but the one with Weapons Engineer could almost not suck too bad. I think that Enhanced Scopes actually make the Shadows better. They'll pretty move first and shoot first when up against other generics.

people have done this before, but everyones thought of the naked hwk. so you cant do that. a hwk has to have a turret on.

hoguh, nowadays you could put the autoblaster on. that sucks.

4x Tempest squadron TIE Adv.

1 Black squadron TIE with squad leader

Scruffy-looking Nerf Herders

Click to change squadron details

100 Points

I think I am on a 20 game, month long losing streak. So the worst list in x-wing is probably whatever I am using at that time.

The worst possible squadron is going to be made up of some number of turretless HWKs. I think 4 is probably the fewest you can get.

Maybe two of these:
Gamma Squadron Pilot — TIE Bomber 18
Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6
Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6
Assault Missiles 5
Homing Missiles 5
Proton Bombs 5
Engine Upgrade 4

This is also pretty terrible.


Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27
Enhanced Scopes 1
Darth Vader 3
Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27
Enhanced Scopes 1
Ysanne Isard 4
Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27
Enhanced Scopes 1
Weapons Engineer 3
Targeting Computer 2

While these aren't great they would eat the HWK squadron for lunch. Just think about how DEVASTATING just one of those Bombers would be against a HWK squadron that is only shooting with one dice. While the Phantoms aren't anywhere near their potential they've still got their massive attack to use.

The worst possible squadron is going to be made up of some number of turretless HWKs. I think 4 is probably the fewest you can get.

Maybe two of these:

Gamma Squadron Pilot — TIE Bomber 18

Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6

Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6

Assault Missiles 5

Homing Missiles 5

Proton Bombs 5

Engine Upgrade 4

This is also pretty terrible.

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Darth Vader 3

Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Ysanne Isard 4

Targeting Computer 2

Shadow Squadron Pilot — TIE Phantom 27

Enhanced Scopes 1

Weapons Engineer 3

Targeting Computer 2

While these aren't great they would eat the HWK squadron for lunch. Just think about how DEVASTATING just one of those Bombers would be against a HWK squadron that is only shooting with one dice. While the Phantoms aren't anywhere near their potential they've still got their massive attack to use.

Hmm you are right.

I think I am on a 20 game, month long losing streak. So the worst list in x-wing is probably whatever I am using at that time.

I've been blanked in every match in my last 4 tournaments most of the time killing less than %50, if even getting on the board at all, and my casual games aren't much better.

This would be a great idea for a tournament... I once ran an Attack Wing tournament in a similar build fashion to this, it actually turned out to be pretty fun! (You brought your worst list, and then you play your opponent's list for the win)

I like that hawk list. Not really maneuverable, and 1 attack die isn't going to do a heck of a lot.

The worst possible squadron is going to be made up of some number of turretless HWKs. I think 4 is probably the fewest you can get.

Turreted HWKs might actually be worse, simply because you can end up dropping down to 3 ships.

[38] Jan, Daredevil, ICT, Shield Upgrade

[32] Rebel Operative, ICT, Leia, Shield Upgrade, Moldy Crow

[30] Rebel Operative, ICT, Gunner, Shield Upgrade

With Jan, ends up rolling the same primary count as 4x HWK, except it drops to 3 total dice under various circumstances. Only one ship has Gunner. Jan has no Boost on bar and can take damage from Daredevil if it's ever used. Leia is a waste of points. Turrets do a maximum of one damage but take up more points than a Z-95 would, and Jan's no help.

Now I just need another 2 HWK.

OK, here's a refinement: 2 ships, 1 hwk and one castrated dash (can I coin this term?). Maximum 3 damage per turn, normally it's just 2. It's debatable whether this is worse than the previous 3(5 range1) dice 1 ion, as 2 Ions can be pretty handy.

The Experimental Interface - Expose - Outrider - Ion Cannon - Luke is the biggest waste of 22pts I have ever seen on a single ship.

Dash Rendar (36)
Expose (4)
Ion Cannon (3)
Luke Skywalker (7)
Experimental Interface (3)
Outrider (5)

Jan Ors (25)
Daredevil (3)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Gunner (5)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Moldy Crow (3)

Total: 100

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edit:typo

I posted about this idea a while back

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/99305-challenge-league/

The trick is, you must be able ti fly what you shafted you opponent with in the follow-up game. It becomes more than just "worst possible list", but bragging for rights for being resourceful/scrappy.

RogueMorgan

4x Tempest squadron TIE Adv.

1 Black squadron TIE with squad leader

That's still 23 health with 10 attack dice and 5 actions. The TIE Advanced isn't a great ship but a swarm of them still pack a punch.