Clarification of "first player" and the drawing of mythos cards.

By Magusclonex, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

I just recently bought the arkham horror board game and after reading the rules and playing through a few times I've become slightly confused about when mythos cards are drawn and resolved.

Example:

Player 1 starts the game as "first player" moves to a location, has his encounter etc. and the game has progressed to the mythos phase. A appears somewhere. A monster is spawned, monsters move based on symbols, clue appears, doom track advances. The "first player" marker moves to player 2 in this game and he begins his turn.

My question is, when player 2 gets to phase 5; do you draw another mythos card and resolve it? or does "first player" mean you wait until Player 1 gets to phase 5 to draw a mythos card and player 2's turn would have ended after his encounter?

BTW, i love your board game FFG. I see real quality and artistry in its design.

The mistake you're making is that each player has a full turn before the next. In fact:

  • All players perform Phase 1 (Upkeep) together. Player order should not be important here.
  • All players perform Phase 2 (Movement), starting with the First Player and continuing clockwise. This is important because players who move first can kill monsters to open a path to allow later-moving players to get to crucial spaces. Also note that you do not enter gates during this phase; only exit them.
  • All players perform Phase 3 (Arkham Encounters), starting with the First Player and continuing clockwise. Investigators sitting on gates without an explored token will enter the gate. Investigators on a gate with an explored token can choose to try to close the gate, or do nothing. They may not take a random encounter, or an alternate encounter (such as Dissection at the Science Building). Investigators in the Other World do not have an encounter this phase.
  • All players perform Phase 4 (Other World Encounters), starting with the First Player and continuing clockwise. Clearly, only the investigators in Other Worlds will have encounters. Since Phase 3 and Phase 4 are separate, it's possible that an investigator's Arkham Encounter could be "A gate and monster appears!" in which case they would be drawn into a gate and delayed, and then also have an encounter during this phase.
  • The First Player draws and resolves a Mythos card. You do not draw multiple Mythos cards during this phase, no matter how many investigators are playing. Any more than one would be a complete nightmare.
  • The First Player token is passed clockwise, and a new round begins.

Hope this was helpful.

Thanks very much! I just finished playing the game in the wrong way as i explained above, and it felt... just incredibly difficult with gates opening after almost every player move. I'll run through the game again tomarrow and see how it feels now that I get it.

(slap to my head) umm everyone moves at once? wow i have been playing one player at a time for like a year! wow! are you for real? how have i never got this?

pittplayer said:

(slap to my head) umm everyone moves at once? wow i have been playing one player at a time for like a year! wow! are you for real? how have i never got this?

How have you been doing it then? Upkeep alltogether, then FP does movement + encounter(s), second player the same, etc.?

1st player does all the phases other players sit there

2nd player becomes 1st player ditto

3rd player ditto

wow i am ******* stupid!! are you for real!! haha i laugh at myself!

i almost feel like you guys are pulling my leg!!

is this why i think the game is harder and i read how a lot of you guys dont think its that hard? cause i have been pretty much delaying all the investigators? wow!

P. 5:

"Once all players have completed a phase, the next phase begins."

Tibs said:

All players perform Phase 2 (Movement), starting with the First Player and continuing clockwise. This is important because players who move first can kill monsters to open a path to allow later-moving players to get to crucial spaces. Also note that you do not enter gates during this phase; only exit them.

How does a moving player get to move into a location with a monster and kill it before a later moving player moves. I would have thought that a player that moves first into a space that contains a monster would have the chance to kill it during the Encounter Phase but the way would not be clear for a later moving player to pass through that location until next turn.

Spectre2661 said:

How does a moving player get to move into a location with a monster and kill it before a later moving player moves. I would have thought that a player that moves first into a space that contains a monster would have the chance to kill it during the Encounter Phase but the way would not be clear for a later moving player to pass through that location until next turn.

Combat occurs during the Movement phase, not during the Encounter Phase.

Heh, I haven't played it wrong - but I've found that part of the rules to be among the most confusing. I just can't seem think of a better way to do it.