More ships for wave 2!

I hope we get the Acclamator I&II class Medium Frigates:

They are about 750 meters long (cause of that big honking fin on the back) and if any of you remember Star Wars: Empire At War (or the exellent 'republic at war' mod), you will remember these guys.

They sucked.

However, in a game like armada, it might be different. I think that they maybe should of introduced the Acclamator instead of the glatiator. But, where as the glatiator is a close range brawling ship, the Acclamator would be a good long range bombardment ship and command ship. Or at least good squadron activation ship. Seems like it has bad anti-fighter defense, give it one die.

I also am rooting for the Immobalizer 418 cruiser.

@ 600 meters, this is a deceptively fragile ship. It is actually very thin and narrow unlike other ships of its length. It would have very weak guns, maybe corvette strength, with 2-3 dice for anti-fighter work. Also it would be great in campaigns!

The Dreadnoughts and Tarkin cruisers would be a good smaller escort for the empires triangles.

The rebels should have the MC30c torpedo frigate. Massive damage, decent shields, little/no hull for its size. Discardable cluster bomb that deals damage to squadrons at range 1? Seems like a good idea.

The rebels should also have the winged and un-winged versions of the MC80 liberty cruiser. (The unwinged versions got shot by the second death star if I remember correctly). The "Home One" is too big for a game like this at the moment though, and I don't think that Imperial Star Destroyers and Mon Calamari Cruisers should be released until wave 3 or so. Let's get smaller stuff before the big stuff.

I think FFG would do fine if they made up some Mon Calamari ship class that was like the 40's to 70's range.

The Liberty was a winged MC80 aka the Alliance's most common counterpart to the Imperial class Star Destroyers. Seeing the 40s again would be fun,

I also am rooting for the Immobalizer 418 cruiser.

@ 600 meters, this is a deceptively fragile ship. It is actually very thin and narrow unlike other ships of its length. It would have very weak guns, maybe corvette strength, with 2-3 dice for anti-fighter work. Also it would be great in campaigns!

The Interdictor was originally classed as a Heavy Cruiser , this was prior to the term Extended Universe was coined. Much later, over a decade after they first part of the the Star Wars saga, they were said to be under gunned for their class and that their gravity wells drained much of the ships defensive shields. This was all a later development in continuity.

Some posters have said that special scenarios or rules would have to be made to take into account the ships gravity wells.

More ships for wave 2! I don't think that Imperial Star Destroyer s and Mon Calamari Cruisers should be released until wave 3 or so. Let's get smaller stuff before the big stuff.

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I also am rooting for the Immobalizer 418 cruiser.

@ 600 meters, this is a deceptively fragile ship. It is actually very thin and narrow unlike other ships of its length. It would have very weak guns, maybe corvette strength, with 2-3 dice for anti-fighter work. Also it would be great in campaigns!

The Interdictor was originally classed as a Heavy Cruiser , this was prior to the term Extended Universe was coined. Much later, over a decade after they first part of the the Star Wars saga, they were said to be under gunned for their class and that their gravity wells drained much of the ships defensive shields. This was all a later development in continuity.

Some posters have said that special scenarios or rules would have to be made to take into account the ships gravity wells.

More ships for wave 2! I don't think that Imperial Star Destroyer s and Mon Calamari Cruisers should be released until wave 3 or so. Let's get smaller stuff before the big stuff.

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An Interdictor still is a Heavy Cruiser class technically. It can also a Cruiser however because of how divisions in classifications work in the Star Wars classification system. The Star Wars classification system in use in the GCW era is based on length with 400 to 600 meters being a Cruiser and 600 to 1000 being a Heavy Cruiser. The Immobilizer 418 class, commonly mislabeled as the Interdictor class is 600 meters long whih puts it at the point where Cruiser and Heavy Cruiser meet.

An Interdictor still is a Heavy Cruiser class technically. It can also a Cruiser however because of how divisions in classifications work in the Star Wars classification system. The Star Wars classification system in use in the GCW era is based on length with 400 to 600 meters being a Cruiser and 600 to 1000 being a Heavy Cruiser. The Immobilizer 418 class, commonly mislabeled as the Interdictor class is 600 meters long whih puts it at the point where Cruiser and Heavy Cruiser meet.

That is my exact point. It was originally classed as a Heavy Cruiser when it was first introduced in The Imperial Sourcebook, [Oct. 1989] it was well over a decade after they first appeared in the saga that the ships were said to be under gunned for their class and that their gravity wells drained much of the ships' defensive shields. These "vulnerabilities" were all a much later development in continuity, namely when the X Wing series of books came out.

Originally

Type of Craft: Siener Fleet Systems Immobilizer 418

Class of Ship: Interdictor Class Heavy Cruiser

In the Star Wars Galaxy ship "type" is different from ship "class."

Interdictors while suitably armed and carried TIE squadrons, were a rare and specialized commodity in

The Imperial Fleet.

As such they were never intended to enter into heavy combat, other ships of the line [strike Class,

Carrack Class, etc.] would engage enemy ships that were kept from jumping to hyper space.

I hope they keep the size difference between the victory and the Imperial star destroyers!

This picture again!

I know I have said this before, but every time I see that graphic I just have to point out: I am so glad that they included both the Imperial-I and Imperial-II class in the image--it really illustrates the differences between the two classes to see them next to each other like this!

I hope they keep the size difference between the victory and the Imperial star destroyers!

Ugh, they got the Imperial-I wrong in that image, seemingly all but copying the Imperial-II.

Yes, I hope that they make a big Imperial Star Destroyer, and I won't even care if they have one model for both the I and the II. In the meantime, I'm building this . At 15" is should be just about right.

Of course, I also think that the Lancer should be part of this, even if it didn't come from Empire at War. I also think that the Acclamator and the Venator would be nice nods to the prequel-lovers. (Though, I will always say that the Venator's superstructures look like Jar Jar's eye stalks.)

But the Imperial Star Destroyer must be in Wave 2.

Honestly I would hope to see the Strikes and Carracks before the Lancers.

Star destroyer and Mon Calamari Cruiser is wave three confirmed.

Star destroyer and Mon Calamari Cruiser is wave three confirmed.

I'm guessing by Star Destroyer you mean the Imperial class but where did they say that?

The rebels should also have the winged and un-winged versions of the MC80 liberty cruiser. (The unwinged versions got shot by the second death star if I remember correctly). The "Home One" is too big for a game like this at the moment though, and I don't think that Imperial Star Destroyers and Mon Calamari Cruisers should be released until wave 3 or so. Let's get smaller stuff before the big stuff.

Depends on which depiction they're going for. In EAW they made Home One almost twice as big as it's suppose to be in canon, which is no larger than an ISD II while regular MC80s are smaller than ISDs but bigger than VSDs. I'm willing to bet my money that we'll get Home One in either Wave 2 or 3 and the size of it will be closer to canon.

Star destroyer and Mon Calamari Cruiser is wave three confirmed.

I'm guessing by Star Destroyer you mean the Imperial class but where did they say that?

I actually don't know anything, but I was thinking long and hard at the Fridays bar last night, and It makes sense.

The imperator-class star destroyer will be about the size of the corvette, and I think that if they hold off until wave three they will do better. Get the smaller ships out first, then unveil the big bad boys that everyone will want.

Star destroyer and Mon Calamari Cruiser is wave three confirmed.

I'm guessing by Star Destroyer you mean the Imperial class but where did they say that?

I actually don't know anything, but I was thinking long and hard at the Fridays bar last night, and It makes sense.

The imperator-class star destroyer will be about the size of the corvette, and I think that if they hold off until wave three they will do better. Get the smaller ships out first, then unveil the big bad boys that everyone will want.

this will actually work well with the lore since the Imp class star destroyers were developed and built later than the victory class.

(now i understand the he rebel assault frigate was probably a pretty late model too but..)

(now i understand the he rebel assault frigate was probably;y a pretty late model too but..)

Well after the appearance of Imperial/Imperator Class .

Ignore these forlorn hopes of these Rebels, Imperial Class for Wave 2 PLEASE!

Actually I want my squadron of 3 Victorys to reign supreme!

Muahahahaha!

CR90s were introduced before the Clone Wars.

Victory-Is entered service during the Clone Wars and Victory-IIs near the end of the Clone Wars

Imperial-Is entered service at the end of the Clone Wars with the Imperial-IIs being introduced shortly before the Batle of Yavin.

Nebulon-Bs entered service shortly after the Clone Wars ended.

The Gladiator-I was a design in progress when the Clone Wars ended but underwent a major redesign after the war and before entering service. I have no idea when the Gladiator-IIs entered service because AFAIK Armada is the first place that has divided the Gladiator class Star Destroyer into Gladiator-I and Gladiator-II models.

The Assault Frigate Mark II entered service at some point before the Battle of Yavin though the Mark Is were more common due to the Empire shutting down the main production lines for the Mark II.

The MC80s were originally cruise liners built during the Imperial occupation of Dac or exploration ships built before Dac was invaded by the Empire that were refit into modern warships after the Empire was driven off Dac in one of Operation Domino's, aka the firs major Alliance assault against the Empire,few sucesses.

If you want an idea of how big the Star Destroyer would be, provided they don't scale it down to the Victory's size, would be 1.5 times the size of the victory. This is based of just from looking at the size of the corvette and the victory from the previews, though I figure it is more or less would be the same for larger ships in the future.

So like:

Victoryvict

Or am I doing it wrong?

I want Armada to be a success, but with its steeper price point i'm not convinced it will have the legs X-Wing does. There are so many ships I want to see so badly in this system, but if we only get to wave 2, these are the 4 ships I would want to see:

Imperial Class: Mandatory. I'm a little suprised it wasn't core. Whether this is "Armada Large" or Armada Huge" The system is incomplete without it.

MC80A: See Imperial Class.

Interdictor Class: I think the Grav Wells have the potential to add some game changing mechanics to the system. I think it would make a cool looking model too.

Neutron Star Class: Odd choice, I know. I think a fighter command ship would work well with the rebels. Again I think it would add more layers to Armada's gameplay.

I think you will see a Vindicator class, but I have reservations about the Immobilizer class variant or its usefulness in the game. of course this all hinges on weather current canon overrides EU in this game.

In episode 13 of season 1 of the Clone Wars cartoons (Jedi Crash) we see a Republic Counselor Class ship go into hyperspace within the atmosphere of a planet.

If I am not mistaken the Immobilizer is supposed to create a gravity well to keep ships from entering hyperspace, as if they can not activate the hyperdrive within a gravity well... that myth has been discounted in current canon.

Of course the Victory Class, the Gladiator Class and the Rebel Assault Frigate are all EU ships... so there is a good chance others will appear as well... In fact I would count on it.

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There is the Vindicator-class Heavy Cruiser Hull, and on top of that there are a few variants.

The Immobilizer sacrifices shields, hull, and nearly all of its guns for 4 gravity well projectors. Maybe has a pregame mechanic, or a campaign use.

The unnamed Carrier variant sacrifices some shields and guns to increase the hanger size to hold more tie fighters, raising the squadron strength from 2 to 6.

Then there seems to be plenty of pictures for a Mrk2 of the class or something, maybe its just fan art, but it seems that the hull is wider and beefed up, so maybe more tankyness?

I think it would be cool to see an 'aces' style pack with the carrier and Immobilizer, would be a good way to do it me thinks

I really like the Vindicator class as a ship... I too especially like the beefed up looking version. My concern is that the Immobilizer wont be in the line up because it will no longer work as advertised.

If ships can go to hyperspace in a gravity well as we have seen on many occasions in the Clone Wars TV show, the Immobilizer's effect would be rather pointless. Unless the effect is changed to something like a wide effect hyperspace dampener... with no actual expiation as to how it effects the hyperdrives. Since we don't really know how hyperdrives work that could be a convenient way to keep them relivent... but as it stands right now the immobilizers main function has been rendered useless by new canon.

I don't know if this even matters to FFG... but if it does the Immobilizer variant may be off the table.

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Oh... I think an aces pack as you described would be a very cool idea as well...

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I think you will see a Vindicator class, but I have reservations about the Immobilizer class variant or its usefulness in the game. of course this all hinges on weather current canon overrides EU in this game.

In episode 13 of season 1 of the Clone Wars cartoons (Jedi Crash) we see a Republic Counselor Class ship go into hyperspace within the atmosphere of a planet.

That's very annoying of them, because that overrides a LOT of what we know about hyperspace travel.

I don't know the specifics of that episode. Maybe they had overridden the failsafes? Maybe the inability to go to hyperspace is connected to a failsafe mechanism that exists in the presence of a gravity well in order to prevent the ship from accidentally crashing into the object.