Is there a reason why FFG don't advertise an actual release date for new products?
Release Dates
Is there a reason why FFG don't advertise an actual release date for new products?
I'm guessing the 26th will be the release date. Also, I imagine that they don't want to be clearer about it so that they can let the retailers sell the product upon arrival.
If you mean why don't they list an actual release date for brand newly announced products, there are too many factors out of their control once it goes to the factory for printing, then shipping to the states, then shipping to distributors then stores.
Yeah but other companies can set an actual release date and they will have similar factors like production and distribution etc
Gonna butt in here...I was under the impression that at least some of this current delay was due to labor issues at certain ports. Am I wrong?
And to be honest, I can wait. I'm really more anxious to get a couple of the older ships that I don't have but are out of stock every-freaking-where.
Gonna butt in here...I was under the impression that at least some of this current delay was due to labor issues at certain ports. Am I wrong?
And to be honest, I can wait. I'm really more anxious to get a couple of the older ships that I don't have but are out of stock every-freaking-where.
EVERYTHING is instock on EBAY.... For a price of course..
The problem is they don't manufacture themselves they are reliant on China's factories for the minis so if their slow or deliver a bad batch that's beyond ffgs control.
Obviously they want stuff released to make money they don't cause delays to annoy us, stuff just happens.
Edited by RagnarokSquadronThe problem is they don't manufacture themselves they are reliant on China's factories for the minis so if their slow or deliver a bad batch that's beyond ffgs control.
Obviously they want stuff released to make money they don't cause delays to annoy us, stuff just happens.
I don't know how a company the size of FFG can't get a release date accurate to a quarter (3 months)? Maybe it's time to hire someone to manage there logistics and manufacturing. Maybe they should start announcing a release year. They can't possible miss by 12 months no matter how many boats sink.
I predict wave 6 will be legal for worlds 2015.
No disrespected intended here, but you speak as if you have no idea how this whole process works. Starting with this statement:
I don't know how a company the size of FFG can't get a release date accurate to a quarter (3 months)?
Just how large of a company do you think Fantasy Flight is? They aren't the size of, say, Hasbro, with near limitless resources to throw around to overcome any problem they may have. They don't produce their own products. Everything is outsourced to manufacturers in China. Those manufacturers don't work exclusively for FFG. They get the stuff done when they can get it done, and when they aren't doing other things for other customers.
Then we have this statement:
Maybe it's time to hire someone to manage there logistics and manufacturing.
They could hire a division of logistics managers and still not have any control whatsoever on circumstances such as how long a print run takes to produce, how long it takes to get those products onto a boat, how long the boat takes to get to the US, how long the boat sits in harbor before being unloaded, how long it takes to unload the boat, or how long it takes to get the product processed so that it can be shipped to distributors, who then ship to retailers, who then sell the product. These are all things completely out of FFG's control, and there's not really anything that can be done about it.
Then we have this gem:
Maybe they should start announcing a release year. They can't possible miss by 12 months no matter how many boats sink.
First off, I'm totally unaware of a boat actually sinking, so I don't know where you even got this idea. Next off, I would hope that the FFG community in general and the X-Wing community in particular would be capable of mourning a tragedy like a cargo ship sinking, presumably with casualties, without whining that it's going to take extra time to get their little plastic spaceships. Also, announcing a release year wouldn't pacify you and those like you, either, because we'd see a weekly (or daily) thread posted of "Any Updates?" or "When is the next wave shipping?" or "I am so done waiting on this stuff to ship, I'm out!" As I said earlier, FFG does a fantastic job working with what they have to make sure that consumers are kept up to date on what is happening with production compared to other companies. Realistically, they're under no obligation to share any information with us at all. I like the fact that they choose to give us as much of an update as they can.
Finally, before this turns into too much of a rant (probably too late for that, but whatever), let's address this:
I predict wave 6 will be legal for worlds 2015.
This is an asinine thing to say. Working under the assumption that Scum & Villainy will be tournament legal (because all indications point to it probably being that way), then it will be legal for Worlds in NOVEMBER because wave 6 will likely be available no later than JANUARY.
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Edited by RagnarokSquadronProject and sales dates are two different things. Having dates for the project completed is explained already. As for sale dates, a distributor told me FFG has no release dates and they can sell as soon as they receive the product. Now I have had retailers tell me the exact opposite.
Ragnarok is completely correct here.
I posted something on this very issue in the thread below:
With how everyone complains about them missing a release quarter by a bit why on earth would they put themselves on the line further by giving a pinpointed date?
That said your tears arent going to make the pieces get here any faster...
I swear as soon as we hear of it being headed to distributors people complain about how it wasnt here fast enough for them or how its unfair that someone who paid a premium for their pre release piece has it and they dont...ITS FINALLY ON ITS WAY!! Why are people still complaining? LIke my mom used to tell me...patience is a virtue.
Gonna butt in here...I was under the impression that at least some of this current delay was due to labor issues at certain ports. Am I wrong?
And to be honest, I can wait. I'm really more anxious to get a couple of the older ships that I don't have but are out of stock every-freaking-where.
The ports of LA and El Segundo have been threatening this for a while now but I have not heard anything about it recently so i dont think that is the issue necessarily...though they have been known to perform work slow downs when things arent going their way. That seems possible but as I said I have not heard anything on this for a few months now...no strike but also no contract.
Edited by skins1924No disrespected intended here, but you speak as if you have no idea how this whole process works. Starting with this statement:
I don't know how a company the size of FFG can't get a release date accurate to a quarter (3 months)?
Just how large of a company do you think Fantasy Flight is? They aren't the size of, say, Hasbro, with near limitless resources to throw around to overcome any problem they may have. They don't produce their own products. Everything is outsourced to manufacturers in China. Those manufacturers don't work exclusively for FFG. They get the stuff done when they can get it done, and when they aren't doing other things for other customers.
Then we have this statement:
Maybe it's time to hire someone to manage there logistics and manufacturing.
They could hire a division of logistics managers and still not have any control whatsoever on circumstances such as how long a print run takes to produce, how long it takes to get those products onto a boat, how long the boat takes to get to the US, how long the boat sits in harbor before being unloaded, how long it takes to unload the boat, or how long it takes to get the product processed so that it can be shipped to distributors, who then ship to retailers, who then sell the product. These are all things completely out of FFG's control, and there's not really anything that can be done about it.
Then we have this gem:
Maybe they should start announcing a release year. They can't possible miss by 12 months no matter how many boats sink.
First off, I'm totally unaware of a boat actually sinking, so I don't know where you even got this idea. Next off, I would hope that the FFG community in general and the X-Wing community in particular would be capable of mourning a tragedy like a cargo ship sinking, presumably with casualties, without whining that it's going to take extra time to get their little plastic spaceships. Also, announcing a release year wouldn't pacify you and those like you, either, because we'd see a weekly (or daily) thread posted of "Any Updates?" or "When is the next wave shipping?" or "I am so done waiting on this stuff to ship, I'm out!" As I said earlier, FFG does a fantastic job working with what they have to make sure that consumers are kept up to date on what is happening with production compared to other companies. Realistically, they're under no obligation to share any information with us at all. I like the fact that they choose to give us as much of an update as they can.
Finally, before this turns into too much of a rant (probably too late for that, but whatever), let's address this:
I predict wave 6 will be legal for worlds 2015.
This is an asinine thing to say. Working under the assumption that Scum & Villainy will be tournament legal (because all indications point to it probably being that way), then it will be legal for Worlds in NOVEMBER because wave 6 will likely be available no later than JANUARY.
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I think you missed some of the sarcasm in my post. It appears they generate at least 22 million in annual sales, that is their 2012 number. Wizards of the coast had 25 million in annual sales the same year. Do they have similar supply problems? I guess I don't really know. I'd rather eat bacon and build lists. So you win.No disrespected intended here, but you speak as if you have no idea how this whole process works. Starting with this statement:
I don't know how a company the size of FFG can't get a release date accurate to a quarter (3 months)?
Just how large of a company do you think Fantasy Flight is? They aren't the size of, say, Hasbro, with near limitless resources to throw around to overcome any problem they may have. They don't produce their own products. Everything is outsourced to manufacturers in China. Those manufacturers don't work exclusively for FFG. They get the stuff done when they can get it done, and when they aren't doing other things for other customers.
Then we have this statement:
Maybe it's time to hire someone to manage there logistics and manufacturing.
They could hire a division of logistics managers and still not have any control whatsoever on circumstances such as how long a print run takes to produce, how long it takes to get those products onto a boat, how long the boat takes to get to the US, how long the boat sits in harbor before being unloaded, how long it takes to unload the boat, or how long it takes to get the product processed so that it can be shipped to distributors, who then ship to retailers, who then sell the product. These are all things completely out of FFG's control, and there's not really anything that can be done about it.
Then we have this gem:
Maybe they should start announcing a release year. They can't possible miss by 12 months no matter how many boats sink.
First off, I'm totally unaware of a boat actually sinking, so I don't know where you even got this idea. Next off, I would hope that the FFG community in general and the X-Wing community in particular would be capable of mourning a tragedy like a cargo ship sinking, presumably with casualties, without whining that it's going to take extra time to get their little plastic spaceships. Also, announcing a release year wouldn't pacify you and those like you, either, because we'd see a weekly (or daily) thread posted of "Any Updates?" or "When is the next wave shipping?" or "I am so done waiting on this stuff to ship, I'm out!" As I said earlier, FFG does a fantastic job working with what they have to make sure that consumers are kept up to date on what is happening with production compared to other companies. Realistically, they're under no obligation to share any information with us at all. I like the fact that they choose to give us as much of an update as they can.
Finally, before this turns into too much of a rant (probably too late for that, but whatever), let's address this:
I predict wave 6 will be legal for worlds 2015.
This is an asinine thing to say. Working under the assumption that Scum & Villainy will be tournament legal (because all indications point to it probably being that way), then it will be legal for Worlds in NOVEMBER because wave 6 will likely be available no later than JANUARY.
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Annual sales does not translate to company size. WotC has the full backing of a huge company in Hasbro, who can order tons of product in the initial stages and sit on it until it sells. FFG doesn't have that kind of financial backing from a larger company. If anything, those sales numbers just reflect how awesome FFG does on its own. If they had infrastructure support the way WotC does, I daresay they would be blowing away the competition (moreso than they already are, in my opinion).
And yes, I missed any and all sarcasm in your post, because it didn't appear to be sarcastic. Keep in mind that I can't hear your tone of voice in your typing. If I came across as being harsh or a jerk, I apologize.
Also, remember, FFG make use of partners for overseas distribution. Also, release dates are far more important for the WOTC model than it is for FFG.