The next "region"book after Hutt Space...

By DanteRotterdam, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

...shouldn't be a region book but a pirate splat. Everything to do with pirating, swashbuckling and buccaneering all in one book, races, careers and ships. That would be awesome!

If pirate stuff isn't covered in the smuggler book or the hutt book, it should be written by the GM, it doesn't need its own book, it was never a big part of Star Wars.

If pirate stuff isn't covered in the smuggler book or the hutt book, it should be written by the GM, it doesn't need its own book, it was never a big part of Star Wars.

Dude, do you even... It might not have been a big part of the movies but it has been all over pretty much everything else. Heck, I am now reading Tarkin and have just gotten to the part where he deals with a group of pirates. Classic Star Wars.

Check the appearance list: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pirates

I'd still like 'My kind of scum' a boon that focuses on the 'warrior' cultures. Mandalorians, gammoreans, etc.

"Part of Star Wars" refers to the stories Lucas was involved with or Disney was involved with. EU went all over the place with things and were at times barely more than fan fiction with a star wars logo.

Yes they mention Pirates in a small region of space in the Tarkin book, but that doesn't mean every single part of the galaxy has it.

A Region book (of which there are plenty they can work with) should be about a region not a single small part that would benefit from GM writing anyway.

Pirates are easy to dream up and there is absolutely nothing "Star Warsy" about them. Take any group of people, add in a desire to take stuff from others through violence... and give some sort of vehicle either outer space type or water type ship.

I can't see 140-144 pages of Pirates in Star Wars type material that would be anything interesting.

You posted the comment, if you didn't want differing opinions I suggest you write it on a piece of paper and tape it to your monitor. I (yes I) don't see any benefit one way or another about a Pirate Source book.

To your Pirate wiki link I raise you http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zombie

Just because the EU wrote about it, does not mean it needs a whole Source book.

Edit: added comment about zombies.

Edited by fatedtodie

How about something completely new? Rather than rehashing the stuff we've seen in loads of other games? Or breathing new life into something obscure.

I kinda hope they stay away from Tattooine. I appreciate it's iconic, but it's been done to death, and a hell of a lot seems to happen there for a supposed 'backwater'...

I hope they continue to do region books that are not heavily covered by earlier systems. I think they might even organize it by trade routes and surroundings. Just think "The Hydian Way". Could cover everything from the Corporate Sector, Dathomir, Wayland, Myrkyr, Alderaan, Kuat, Rendili, Sullust, Eriadu, and a host of less known worlds. You could easily pick up 3 races, a force using culture (and anti-force), discussion of trade, new ships and vehicles, and almost everything else you need.

"Part of Star Wars" refers to the stories Lucas was involved with or Disney was involved with. EU went all over the place with things and were at times barely more than fan fiction with a star wars logo.

Yes they mention Pirates in a small region of space in the Tarkin book, but that doesn't mean every single part of the galaxy has it.

A Region book (of which there are plenty they can work with) should be about a region not a single small part that would benefit from GM writing anyway.

Pirates are easy to dream up and there is absolutely nothing "Star Warsy" about them. Take any group of people, add in a desire to take stuff from others through violence... and give some sort of vehicle either outer space type or water type ship.

I can't see 140-144 pages of Pirates in Star Wars type material that would be anything interesting.

You posted the comment, if you didn't want differing opinions I suggest you write it on a piece of paper and tape it to your monitor. I (yes I) don't see any benefit one way or another about a Pirate Source book.

To your Pirate wiki link I raise you http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zombie

Just because the EU wrote about it, does not mean it needs a whole Source book.

Edit: added comment about zombies.

Might as well have posted http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Spoon at least that would have been funny...

All you did was show how you didn't click the link I posted and just wanted to be smart instead.

A few links on zombies, sure. Now go to the pirate page, come on, really do it this time... See?

Great. So maybe now you understand it has nothing to do with opinions, I don't mind you don't want such a book. No skin off my nose, but stop with the "it's not Star Wars" crap. It is. It is even cannon now. Ever heared of Hondo Ohnaka?

Cannon = tube that fires projectiles

Canon = accepted as correct for a particular thing

Now that we got spelling out of the way, You are getting awfully mad at me for voicing the same opinion as the other 2 people that posted here. Pirates in a small sector of space are CANON yes (but even those pirates were not a big enough deal for the empire to even consider an issue because the area they operated in was small and barely mattered, keep reading if you didn't get to the part it said that).

So now that we handled spelling and the small bit of canon pirates operate on we can move on. I get it pirates are a thing and have been a romantic thing for hundreds of years. I am sorry to say that it doesn't make it Star Warsy to have a lot of people write books about it.

So your original post stated you think pirates would be awesome, I disagreed. Edgookin and Maelora also prefer something different than Pirates based on their posts.

(Just an FYI just because you post "that will be awesome" on the internet, does not mean everyone will agree, or that you should attack those that disagree)

I think I made my case.

I do support Pirate themed stories and adventures. So if they did an Adventure book that had a pirate theme I would find that as exciting but a region book seems a bit much.

Might as well have posted http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Spoon at least that would have been funny...

Is the 'spoon' canon now, or is it just part of whatever they're calling the EU these days?

I'm hoping it shows up in the equipment section of one of the books.

I think the next sourcebook should be a planet book.. A list of planets not covered in the books already printed and their culture / economy / Race / Trade / Hot spots etc..

I disagree with others on the Pirate idea.. I'd personally would like to see a book on Pirates..

Yeah the Old WEG Pirates and Privateers book and the Far Orbit Project, a pre-written Privateering campaign, were among my favorite books in that system and I think similar books would fit in wonderfully with EOE.

And frankly whatever gave anyone the idea that piracy wasn't common in Star War. It was never focused on in the movies which only covered very small portions of the setting but there were a number of The Clone Wars episodes and arcs that dealt with it, and it was a pretty common topic in the EU. It seems like the new canon novels deal with it as well apparently.

I keep seeing "EU" what is "EU"?

The EU is the European Union. Supposedly Disney has declared that various things in the EU may or may not exist depending on what they want to do in the future. Fear the Maus Reich!

I wouldn't mind seeing a pirate sourcebook for the EotE line. WEG's Pirates and Privateers did have a bit more of an "working for the Rebellion" slant to it, so having something that focuses more on the seedy underside of being a pirate would be cool. Would also be a good place for FFG to expand upon starship combat, particularly involving the bigger ships; if nothing else, they can port over some of the newer mechanics from the Age of Rebellion core rulebook regarding capital ship scale combats.

In fact, I'm kind of saddened that there's not going to be a Pirate/Privateer specialization for the Smuggler in Fly Casual, as I thought Smuggler would be a great fit for pirates, given Han himself being referred to as a pirate in multiple sources.

Extended Universe

(*laugh at HappyDaze's answer)

I keep seeing "EU" what is "EU"?

Expanded Universe, which was all the stuff that wasn't deemed directly canon (books, cartoons, comic books, video games, etc) prior before Lucasfilm and Disney re-classified all the stuff not directly in the movies or Clone Wars TV shows prior to April 2014 as being "Legends" with everything from May 2014 onward all being part of canon.

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I keep seeing "EU" what is "EU"?

Expanded Universe, which was all the stuff that wasn't deemed directly canon (books, cartoons, comic books, video games, etc) prior before Lucasfilm and Disney re-classified all the stuff not directly in the movies or Clone Wars TV shows prior to April 2014 as being "Legends" with everything from May 2014 onward all being part of canon.

AFAIK, FFG's game materials are not canon even if printed after May 2014.

How about something completely new? Rather than rehashing the stuff we've seen in loads of other games? Or breathing new life into something obscure.

I kinda hope they stay away from Tattooine. I appreciate it's iconic, but it's been done to death, and a hell of a lot seems to happen there for a supposed 'backwater'...

Totally agree with this. Kinda hoping for a Wild Space book or some other road less traveled already in the lore.

Tatooine seems obvious and I wouldn't mind it because I would like stats for species like Jawas and Tusken Raiders, but, like many of you, I would appreciate something else. I doubt we'll get something about Wild Space or the Unknown Regions any time soon as those are intentionally "unknown" and better for original creations by the GM.

I can see something like the Corporate Sector having more than enough material for characters playing in Edge of the Empire. Maybe the Sluis Sector for the famed Sluis Van shipyards, a great backdrop for Smugglers, Techs, and Bounty Hunters. I would love a detailed exploration of the Deep Core and Bothan Space, but I have a feeling those will be released under the Force and Destiny and/or Age of Rebellion banner.

Corporate Sector would be kind of interesting if you're running a 'shadowrun in spess' type of game of EoTE. They are fairly huge, timeless entities which seem to survive wars, changes of governments and everything else, so it would be kind of cool to have their existance detailed in that respect.

Cannon = tube that fires projectiles

Canon = accepted as correct for a particular thing

Now that we got spelling out of the way

Oh, I didn't know it was "mock the foreigner time" already... Must be daylight saving throwing me off.

Pirates in a small sector of space are CANON yes

What? Sort of like a "region" of space you mean?

(but even those pirates were not a big enough deal for the empire to even consider an issue because the area they operated in was small and barely mattered, keep reading if you didn't get to the part it said that).

I am lost as to what the Empire and its ability to deal with pirates has anything to do with them playing a part in EotE.... Also isn't there a pirate captain in the CRB?

So now that we handled spelling and the small bit of canon pirates operate on we can move on.

I wish we could...

I get it pirates are a thing and have been a romantic thing for hundreds of years. I am sorry to say that it doesn't make it Star Warsy to have a lot of people write books about it.

Yeah, that was precisely what I suggested.... What does this even mean?

So your original post stated you think pirates would be awesome, I disagreed. Edgookin and Maelora also prefer something different than Pirates based on their posts.

Actually, if you can't see the difference between your posts and the way they were voiced and theirs then I can't help you.

(Just an FYI just because you post "that will be awesome" on the internet, does not mean everyone will agree, or that you should attack those that disagree)

So saying "Dude, do you even..." is attacking someone now? Alright, i'll make a note of that.

I think I made my case.

Sure, let me summarize; my spelling is bad, pirates are canon but shouldn't be a region book because they stick to a certain region, pirates don't worry the Empire, people writing books about Star Wars elements do not make them Star Wars elements and you have sand in your ****** about being told "Dude, do you even..." All excellent points.

Edited by DanteRotterdam

"Part of Star Wars" refers to the stories Lucas was involved with or Disney was involved with. EU went all over the place with things and were at times barely more than fan fiction with a star wars logo.

A major set of recurring characters throughout TCW was Hondo's pirates and they were part of major plot arcs, also. Nothing I saw in TCW gave me the impression that these people were aberrations. All other characters seem to find their existence and behaviour unremarkable.

Pirates are easy to dream up and there is absolutely nothing "Star Warsy" about them

Without "pirates" and similar elements, much of Star Wars' Old West feel no longer makes sense. Why do so many common ships, even just regular traders, have guns if the only things out there are law enforcement? In environments where the law is fully in control, armed ships would not normally be tolerated and would certainly have far less value. Just as we see people routinely going armed in the Star Wars setting even in civilian settings, if society is such that this makes sense / is necessary then there is no logical barrier that stops the same principle extending to space ships which are almost on the level of cars in Star Wars, being almost personal vehicles in many cases.

Look to our own history. Merchant ships were normally armed because of the threat of piracy. Only when nations started to become more peaceful toward each other (no more sponsored privateers) and eliminate piracy did that stop.

Star Wars is clearly not there, yet. Maybe give the Empire another decade or two in power and ships will stop being armed because of the threat of piracy.

Edited by knasserII

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Mandalorian Space or Mandalore sector sourcebook. Personally, I find the Mandalorians pretty boring, but the fan interest can't be denied. Species native to the area leave something to be desired; you've only got the Jakelians and the Mandallian Giants. But add some sort of "Mandalorian Human"—or a pan-species option that lets you use Mandalorian stats instead of your species' regular stats—and you've got lots of folks slobbering in anticipation.