Ordered 2 cores from Miniature Market. They confirmed Wave 1 will not be released at the same time as the core set so that helped make the decision. Plus extra dice, maneuver tool, and a second VSD are a must!

From "Assemble the Fleet"

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Fantasy-Flight-Games/dp/1616619937/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419883465&sr=8-1&keywords=star+wars+armada

$53.96 on Amazon

$15 cheaper than Miniature Market, though sadly they only have core. I'm in the UK though, so miniature market not really an option regardless. But it's only £46 on Amazon.co.uk

This price is less than the cost of the 3 ships included. Really not liking that Apr 22 business, not one bit

Not trying to shoot people down, I swear, but be careful with the Amazon listing right now. I posted this somewhere else:

That is kinda sketch. It has no description or picture, just a title. And the list price it is "cutting" cost from is $60 where as we know Armada is MSRP $100. Not saying Amazon or FFG is being sly, I'd bet it's just some miscommunication somewhere but I'd still wait for correct details before paying.

I'm going to add to that, when I went on Amazon to that item and then clicked on the distributor, everything else was books. From that view, this also seems to be a book? Anyway just seconding that this listing is weird and I have no intention of changing my preorder from miniature market.

Edit: Yeah I just double checked. It also says "unknown binding". I wouldn't look at this either for buying a core set out as an even semi-reliable source for a real release date. Kinda curious what it really is now though... Could still be a weird mistake on their part.

The ISBN number matches the Amrda core set ISBN...it's definitely the correct product, it's just listed oddly.

Either way, theres zero risk. Amazon dont charge until it ships regardless, so worst case scenario is that people just go elsewhere.

I stand corrected, thanks for verifying!

Okay, glad to hear the Amazon one works out.

I'd say no to 2 core sets. Why? First off, the fighter packs get you an additional X-Wing & Tie/Ln hero, plus it is the only way to get A/Y/B-Wings and Tie/In/x1/sa. Second, you get unique upgrades, titles, and fun stuff from the individual packs. If you wait a month or so some third parties will release a spiffed out version of the movement measure and range markers. Maybe some of the upgrades in the Core set are so amazing that you end up wanting 2 core sets to get two of that upgrade, but until we know that for sure I'd hold off on multiple purchases and just go for individual ships.

Personal opinion though, so there is no right answer to this question.

Your point about the third parties is a good one, but I'm still getting two off the bat so I can get other friends in the area into the game. If that's not the point for you though, you're likely spot on.

Your point about the third parties is a good one, but I'm still getting two off the bat so I can get other friends in the area into the game. If that's not the point for you though, you're likely spot on.

I hadn't thought of that. If you have friends wavering then buying a second core allows you both to field full fleets (and maybe even run a smaller extra game for friend 3 and 4, or one giant 400-500 point game with teams), and gets them hooked. We all know what'll happen next

Your point about the third parties is a good one, but I'm still getting two off the bat so I can get other friends in the area into the game. If that's not the point for you though, you're likely spot on.

I hadn't thought of that. If you have friends wavering then buying a second core allows you both to field full fleets (and maybe even run a smaller extra game for friend 3 and 4, or one giant 400-500 point game with teams), and gets them hooked. We all know what'll happen next

Oddly I am doubting 2 starter boxes is enough for two full fleets. A fleet consists of 300pts, two boxes is about half of that (to not include the fighters).

The other point about the fighters being sold seperately is that yes, you get TIE fighters, interceptors, Bombers and Advanceds in the expansion, and similarly for the rebel pack, but what if you want to field a list with lots of just generic TIE fighters or X-Wings? Sounds like we might get 6/4 TIE/X-wing split in the core set, but with the expansions you will only get 2 of each type.

We wont know for sure until the game releases as to which we prefer, but if fielding huge battles - which lets face it, a lot of us will - we probably will be glad of some extra low point fodder fighters

Im not saying thats worth buying another whole set for - but when you combine it with an extra damage deck, ruler and dice for playing with mates who don't own the game, and having the extra ships for huge games - well that starts to get more compelling.

Definitely two for me, as I placed a second pre-order with Amazon when they were offering it for £46 ($69). That's the price of one VSD and one fighter pack!

Obviously will need one of everything in Wave I as well for the unique cards.

I didn't want to start a whole new thread on two cores again so I have a question. If I'm the only one in my gaming group really interested is two cores the way to go? I mean I'm pretty sure after they play they will want to get their own but I'll be the one supplying everything to start.

My main concern is damage deck and dice.

I didn't want to start a whole new thread on two cores again so I have a question. If I'm the only one in my gaming group really interested is two cores the way to go? I mean I'm pretty sure after they play they will want to get their own but I'll be the one supplying everything to start.

My main concern is damage deck and dice.

That's why I am getting two cores also - extra damage deck, ruler and dice for my victi*ahem* friends

So I have my Core Set ordered with 1 of everything from Wave 1. (Mostly doing Kitchen Table stuff with my kids and probably some stuff here and there with friends.)

I am not sure how I missed it (I saw some talk of it on here, but didn't pay much attention to it) that the Core Set would be released first, then the rest of wave 1.

SO . . . the million dollar question: "How much longer will wave 1 follow?" (And how much longer will I have to wait to get my stuff from MM?) I understand all the port slowdown stuff, but it sounds like they are really trying to kick things into gear to get the backlog of ships straighted out.

SO . . . 2nd question: it is ever so tempting (and to keep with the theme of the thread, which I have read) to order a 2nd Core Set, just to get that one ASAP. So, whats everyone's advice? (Ya, 1st world problems, I know!)

I think I can come up with another $100, get some SW:IA stuff, maybe even some Scum stuff to add to the order, so money is not really an issue. So, did I just answer my own question? Lol! Ya, just shut up and order a 2nd set!

I would like SOME advice one way or the other. I feel like I am at an adicts meeting. I don't want to do "it" again, but man, I just want "it" right now!!!! Know what I mean?

HELP!!!!!

The second core set is very much worth it if you are thinking of supplying both sides, being able to field Imperial-Imperial or Rebel-Rebel matches, or playing above 300 points.

Otherwise the core set's "discount" is really in the squadrons, and two core sets would put you way over the number you would ever be able to field. Two cores and two of each squadron box would put you at 16 Tie Fighters (128 points) and 12 X-Wings (156 points).

Of course on the other hand, getting an extra core will be the only real option for a month or more.

Double upgraded VSD-2 vs 2xCR-90 2xNeb-b flavored to taste will be how most of us experience the game at first.

So I have my Core Set ordered with 1 of everything from Wave 1. (Mostly doing Kitchen Table stuff with my kids and probably some stuff here and there with friends.)

I am not sure how I missed it (I saw some talk of it on here, but didn't pay much attention to it) that the Core Set would be released first, then the rest of wave 1.

SO . . . the million dollar question: "How much longer will wave 1 follow?" (And how much longer will I have to wait to get my stuff from MM?) I understand all the port slowdown stuff, but it sounds like they are really trying to kick things into gear to get the backlog of ships straighted out.

SO . . . 2nd question: it is ever so tempting (and to keep with the theme of the thread, which I have read) to order a 2nd Core Set, just to get that one ASAP. So, whats everyone's advice? (Ya, 1st world problems, I know!)

I think I can come up with another $100, get some SW:IA stuff, maybe even some Scum stuff to add to the order, so money is not really an issue. So, did I just answer my own question? Lol! Ya, just shut up and order a 2nd set!

I would like SOME advice one way or the other. I feel like I am at an adicts meeting. I don't want to do "it" again, but man, I just want "it" right now!!!! Know what I mean?

HELP!!!!!

At first I was curious why you would have to come up with another $100, then I realized where you were ordering from. Gotta love that "free" shipping I've had two cores ordered separate from my wave 1 since the beginning in case something like this happened. As I see it you can either call MM and ask them to split your order (One over $100 order with two cores, another with everything else) or order another core from elsewhere. Walmart or B&N for example have the core for less than MM. Also here is a post where I finally wrote out my reasoning for two cores by the math if you want to check it out.

Cobalt,

Thanks for the reply! I believe that I did read your very well thought out post a few weeks ago. I didn't realize that you could split orders with MM. I will get a hold of them this week and see what I can do.

I would really like to keep that $100, for more of Wave 1 or even wave 2.

Thanks again for the reply and you just may have solved my problems!!!

Hello,

New to this forum, have been reading for few weeks.

I pre ordered my copy from a local shop in early February (I live in Finland).

It cost 95€+8€ for shipping thats 110$(the store is about 100 kilometres from me) that was the cheapest I could find so Im kinda jealous of you guys who only have to pay about half what I did!

Now. Today I realised (like many in this thread) that im the only one in my group that is willing to buy stuff for this game. For now. And I was about to order all the expansions when I realised it costs so much more than second core set.

But it occured to me that those expansions might have something that is not included in the core set.

So my question is, are we 100% sure that the core sets squadrons are all same and all Wave 1 expansions have cards that are not included in the core set?

I might contact the dealer and if the shipping remains same im going to order 2nd core set.

All the expansions including dice pack and manouver tool would cost me 247$!!!(226$ without)

Most likely I will add Gladiator and Assault Frigate to my fleets at some point.

Anyway, cant wait for this to arrive!

I pre ordered my copy from a local shop in early February (I live in Finland).

It cost 95€+8€ for shipping thats 110$(the store is about 100 kilometres from me) that was the cheapest I could find so Im kinda jealous of you guys who only have to pay about half what I did!

A Shop in northern Germany who sells for 79,96€ + 12,95€ shipping to FI -> = 92,91 They accept paypal and have german as well as english versions of all the stuff. They also have an imo very broad spectrum of other products including all wave 1 things in ger and eng. the site is only available in german language, but i guess google translate can help you out.

http://www.fantasywelt.de/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=star+wars+armada&x=0&y=0

About a 2nd core set: i wouldnt recommend that because.:

You want the CR-90, Neb B and VSD ships included in the core set as single models again mainly because of the upgrade cards which come with them that can be installed on almost any other ships. So those upgrades will remain valid picks for every new wave that comes out. On the other hand i would not stack to many points on the same hull. I.e. i think that 3 VSDs might be an extreme build now, but will certainly not be required once wave 2 comes out as you will want to play at least one of the newer ships designs from that wave. So as few ships of every hull type as possible while still getting all cards imo. -> one of each.

Squadrons: the TIE and X-Wing in the core set are already plenty and are also included (2 each) in die squadron packs. I believe thos will be the gruts that you have enough of anyway. The new fighters in the squad packs on the other hand might be a bit few. I.e. if you want to run bombers as imperials you can only use the TIE Bomber in ther function and you only get 2 of them which is not many game points. So if you buy anything double it would for me be the squad packs. Also because you get 4 different units in each of which 1 (the grunt is probably the weight you dont want) but the other 3 might be worth running in packs of 4 in whatever meta is to come with the next waves. Ofc there will also be more squadrons comming in wave 2 so thats the same argument against that as above with the ships.

more dice: Cash just for convinience. yes in my case.

new range ruler: one is enough for now, the new one will be available in a few month from now earliest anyway -> decide later.

Noone else buying it: you get 2 armies in the core set so you can at least play with someone who doesnt own it. If you find a friend whos also willing to invest i think it would be best to share buying additional units instead of both starting with a core set and redundant playing pieces.

Thanks madtulip,

I think I can manage that site without google translate (I hate that thing) ;o)

Also thanks for your views, I think 3 Victory class destroyers would be too much! But I got to have at least 2!

I have to ask the members of my group if any of them would be willing to buy the rebel stuff from me.

That would bag me a second VSD!

I probably wouldn't be getting two core sets if I wasn't getting them so cheap. Though that is mostly due to the extra VSD. I know I'll want 3, but I'm worried that I may want to buy more than one VSD expansion depending on the upgrade card distribution across all expansions and the core set. It's not as much of an issue with the Neb-B and Corvette though, since I could easily see myself wanting 4+ of either of those ships.

Something to note too though when you are figuring in the cost difference between two core sets and expansions... Dice and maneuver tool. FFG will be selling both individually, so you can get them without having to buy another core set, but it is still something to factor. It seems like you're going to assuredly want a second set of dice, and based off of the way movement works in this game, and my X-Wing experience, I can definitely see a use for having a second maneuver tool (having one normal one, and one only built out to speed 2 so I can fit it among all the models on the table easier).

Personally 1 Core is enough, as I plan on buying all expansions. 3 VSDs sounds cool, but I have reservations about how it would actually work on the table, plus 3 CR90s and Neb-Bs is a bit much for a Imp primary. A second maneuver tool might be nice, but both I and my friends will all have our own cores so we already have access to a few of them. Dice is ditto.

Mostly for me it is a choice of whether to buy each Rebel Expansion or an extra core (cause I am not made out of money, sadly), and I went with the one of each approach.