http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=5189

It's on the X-wing page but somehow it's missing from the main news page.

How to prepare for a tournament:

Step 1: spend a lot of time practicing the best ways to persuade opponents to let you take back your mistakes. That way when you accidentally make a game-changing mistake like flying a ship off the table or forgetting to cloak your phantom you won't have to pay for it.

Players in a tournament you're not in being nice to each other gets you really worked up, huh?

Players in a tournament you're not in being nice to each other gets you really worked up, huh?

No, players with a history of bending the rules to their advantage winning nationals and then getting credit for "good sportsmanship" annoys me.

Did you make the top 32, iPeregrine?

Have you ever played this person or watched him play or does all your information come from the forums?

Have you ever played this person or watched him play or does all your information come from the forums?

Yes, I have played against him and talked (offline) to other people who have played against him.

Have you ever played this person or watched him play or does all your information come from the forums?

Yes, I have played against him and talked (offline) to other people who have played against him.

Were you at the world championship and if so, did you make the cut to the top 32?

Were you at the world championship and if so, did you make the cut to the top 32?

No, and I don't see what that has to do with anything. The events in question happened elsewhere, and the article is from the winner of nationals, not worlds.

Were you at the world championship and if so, did you make the cut to the top 32?

No, and I don't see what that has to do with anything. The events in question happened elsewhere, and the article is from the winner of nationals, not worlds.

Were you at Nationals Championship and did you make the cut there?

If players allows mulligans, take-backs, whatever, that is between the two players in that game. These are two grown-ass men (in most cases) that are playing toy spaceships. If there are shenanigans involved, they should call a judge. Otherwise, it was clearly not an issue.

Let's not get too worked up about one adult being gracious to another in a toy spaceship game, mkay?

Rick is one of the best players I've played and has the best attitude. Mistakes were even made at Worlds Finals but it was handled appropriately. I think the type of players is what makes this game even greater. In the end it's only little plastic pieces and a bunch of friends having fun.

This went off the rails so **** fast.

The article itself was interesting, as were the descriptions of the losing battles. It's fun to know what can and cannot work and other tidbits.

I have played Rick. He's a very good player, and the mistake in the final round was completely understandable after that many games. We hung out this weekend and he still feels raw about it. I don't think he should. That's an automatic action after your last attack with that set of upgrades. When I played him I would have just assumed it, regardless of the presence of a little bit of cardboard. No one should win because their opponent was exhausted and forgot a bit of minutia. It's not the same as "oh thses dice suck, imma re-roll them!" or "now that I'm on this asteroid, I really meant to do the turn the other way".

People forget this is meant by FFG to be a FUN game. By that i mean the rules don't punish you for "mistakes" that others would. Look at how firing and TL are handled: If you declare you're doing either, and then are out of range/arc of your initial target, you get to go "Oops. What else is legal?". Most other miniature games i know of pretty much go "You're SOL. Action's wasted, move along". Take barrell roll: Place template down, move ship, can't complete? Pick ENTIRELY new action. Its wondrous compared to the kind of dickery stuff like 40k involves. This kind of "forgiving" atmosphere promotes friendly gameplay at ALL levels, not just casual.

I spoke to Rick right after Nationals and we discussed the incident in question in our interview on the show.

Bottom line both players were exhausted at the time of the game and a mistake was made. Rick's opponent allowed him to place the cloak token after it was realized that he had forgotten to do so. Rick's opponent did not see a problem with doing this as it was clearly implied that Rick was doing so and had forgotten to do so. I call that good sportsmanship myself.

If the guy who lost to Rick at Nationals doesn't have a problem with allowing him to place the token, why do you? You were not on that table, you did not play that game, and in the end, if both players are cool with what happened, it is a non-issue to me.

Rick won, end of story.

Oh, and Rick did a fantastic article by the way... since that really is what we should be discussing.

I especially liked the part where he details me beating him. That part is awesome.

If the guy who lost to Rick at Nationals doesn't have a problem with allowing him to place the token, why do you? You were not on that table, you did not play that game, and in the end, if both players are cool with what happened, it is a non-issue to me.

This is not just about one incident at one tournament, it's about a player with a history of bending the rules in his favor to make up for his mistakes. For example, at a store championship he flew a ship off the table, then called a judge over and got a ruling that the table edge wasn't perfectly straight and therefore he should get to keep it on the table. Nobody around here was at all surprised when we saw who had posted a thread about "my nationals mistake" because that's just the kind of player he is.

How to prepare for a tournament:

Step 1: spend a lot of time practicing the best ways to persuade opponents to let you take back your mistakes. That way when you accidentally make a game-changing mistake like flying a ship off the table or forgetting to cloak your phantom you won't have to pay for it.

The mark of a jealous player who lacks both game skills and social skills.

For example, at a store championship he flew a ship off the table, then called a judge over and got a ruling that the table edge wasn't perfectly straight and therefore he should get to keep it on the table.

And the impartial tournament judge agreed with him, no?

Which means that, in the eyes of the tournament organiser, he was right. And if he's right, he's by definition not wrong.

Y-wings are part of the 4 unnamed archetype.....