Dark Heresy Second Edition Review

By The Olive Branch, in Dark Heresy General Discussion

So who else played a Saga character with a bullet firing gun instead of a blaster?

Not yet, but with how Disney is making Star Wars seem attractive as a setting again with a rock solid TV show and an interesting teaser trailer, I'm pretty curious how Saga plays now.

So who else played a Saga character with a bullet firing gun instead of a blaster?

Not yet, but with how Disney is making Star Wars seem attractive as a setting again with a rock solid TV show and an interesting teaser trailer, I'm pretty curious how Saga plays now.

I get the feeling that that man has absolutely no clue what the appeal of the settings he starts working in actually is, before he starts making it into generic 3D scenes and generic action movies.

So who else played a Saga character with a bullet firing gun instead of a blaster?

Not yet, but with how Disney is making Star Wars seem attractive as a setting again with a rock solid TV show and an interesting teaser trailer, I'm pretty curious how Saga plays now.
Well they also killed off the Expanded Universe as canon, and the Episode VII trailer looks like Star Wars: JJ Abrams: The Genericing: The Return.

I get the feeling that that man has absolutely no clue what the appeal of the settings he starts working in actually is, before he starts making it into generic 3D scenes and generic action movies.

So who else played a Saga character with a bullet firing gun instead of a blaster?

Not yet, but with how Disney is making Star Wars seem attractive as a setting again with a rock solid TV show and an interesting teaser trailer, I'm pretty curious how Saga plays now.

Well they also killed off the Expanded Universe as canon, and the Episode VII trailer looks like Star Wars: JJ Abrams: The Genericing: The Return.

I get the feeling that that man has absolutely no clue what the appeal of the settings he starts working in actually is, before he starts making it into generic 3D scenes and generic action movies.

I'm not sure how much creative control he even has. The stormtrooper featured in the trailer actually shows up in the series, for example, as a side character, so it's reasonable to assume someone higher up is calling the shots and telling various writers to work together. As far as EU goes, so far, they've taken a rather large amount of material from it, which puts the decision to kill it canonically in more of the light that they want to curb the most horrid excesses (Yuzhon Vong, f.ex..), while keeping established things about technology and setting intact.

And really, an expression of absolute terror, OR ANY OTHER EMOTION, on a main character's face in Star Wars is something I've been waiting for for three movies now. :D

As far as the series goes, they do a decent job in making the empire a credible foe. Properly setting up the antagonists along the protagonists seems to be something Disney sets great store in, which is a rather promising approach. For the first time since the Tantive IV boarding, Stormtroopers actually seem dangerous. That's a good thing. I like that.

What are your thoughts on the black stormtrooper?

I'm sorry were there not black Stormtroopers before? I mean they never took their helmet off so who was to know. At Episode IV-VI they were openly recruiting from what I understand so they were bound to take all creeds and colors. Unless I'm missing a key piece of lore somewhere.

What are your thoughts on the black stormtrooper?

I'm sorry were there not black Stormtroopers before? I mean they never took their helmet off so who was to know. At Episode IV-VI they were openly recruiting from what I understand so they were bound to take all creeds and colors. Unless I'm missing a key piece of lore somewhere.

I think you're missing the "joke."

What are your thoughts on the black stormtrooper?

I'm sorry were there not black Stormtroopers before? I mean they never took their helmet off so who was to know. At Episode IV-VI they were openly recruiting from what I understand so they were bound to take all creeds and colors. Unless I'm missing a key piece of lore somewhere.

He's really just trying to flamebait, turn them into some meaningless crusade over nothing and derail threads. Just report and ignore.

But I always found the whole post-2nd Trilogy retcons annoying, but yes, it's pretty well-settled by now that the Imperium rather quickly stopped relying on clones. I think the rationalization for this was that they (being clones) would be too susceptible to chemical and biological warfare.

Also, the clones supposedly age faster than the average human. There's also the whole thing about them being mandalorian in origin, which really should've been factored in from the beginning - mandalorians tend to not play nice with the bigger powers, even when they are the bigger power. The "old" clone troopers (I heard) are also supposed to harbor a pretty deep resentment towards the "new" stormtroopers.

By the time of Episode VII, I'd be very surprised if there are any clone troopers at all left. By the EU (which is now non-Canon thanks to Disney) I think this would be around the time where the Empire starts letting all kinds of lesser species into the Stormtrooper Corps.

I thought the "black stormtrooper" felt a bit out of place, somewhat forced, but that could equally well be because the entire trailer is very.. meh. "Shocked man stares suddenly into the distance with a hint of fear in his eyes". Come on. To me it really looks like another generic JJ Abrams action movie with AAA+ CGI over a hollow frame.

Leave it to Cps to focus on race on a games forum, instead of the far more upsetting lightsaber spectacle. I foresee we'll see new and improved dance moves performed by the dark side balette that will turn George Lucas green with envy and flustered red with desire.

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Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Edited by Fgdsfg

My god, I hope it's nothing like Star Wars: Rebels, where Imperium is "chaotic stupid". Evil for the sake of being bad, "haha i eat your fruit, whaddya gonna do about it?". (Kung Pow - it is eeevil, it is soooo evill, I like it, because it's so bad!) Stromtroopers, that dont do anything, and killing them is fun!

So who else played a Saga character with a bullet firing gun instead of a blaster?

Not yet, but with how Disney is making Star Wars seem attractive as a setting again with a rock solid TV show and an interesting teaser trailer, I'm pretty curious how Saga plays now.

Well they also killed off the Expanded Universe as canon, and the Episode VII trailer looks like Star Wars: JJ Abrams: The Genericing: The Return.

I get the feeling that that man has absolutely no clue what the appeal of the settings he starts working in actually is, before he starts making it into generic 3D scenes and generic action movies.

Well, while I agree with his treatment of Star Trek, he always admitted he never really understood Star Trek. He always said he was more of a Star Wars man, and he is of the generation that grew up with the original films. Hopefully this will mean he will treat the franchise with more respect (and hopefully make a better film). Yes, the trailer is... light. It tells us nothing of the plot, and almost everything we see is not new (silly spheroid droid aside, which I am hoping is not going to be indicative of the rest of the film, ie silly stuff for silly stuff's sake, ala the Star Trek "Scotty in the pipes" scene). However, it looks like there has been less needless "updating" of stuff because "you know, the franchise is tired and ****".

Ok, I am slightly worried about the spheroid droid, and the i-troopers (why does he have to make everything look like it was designed in an Apple store?), but the x-wings look at least like he has understood some of the appeal of the original films "lived in" feel, and frankly I don't mind the silly "hand guards" on the lightsaber. There have been more egregious lightsaber designs in the past (two lightsabers connected by a cable in the middle and then used like flails anyone?). Basically, I am reserving judgement until I see it (or at least a more extensive trailer). I certainly don't need much convincing to join the JJ bashing wagon, but I have a little more hope over this than I did over Star Trek.

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Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Oh my god you knew it was flamebait but you still couldn't resist saying something terrible and racist. How are you not a parody account?

Not so much flamebait as it was giving him enough rope to hang himself, but yeah, mission accomplished. And he tells people to put me on ignore :rolleyes: .

Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Oh my god you knew it was flamebait but you still couldn't resist saying something terrible and racist. How are you not a parody account?

I don't think anyone except the socially deranged or mentally infirmed would consider anything I said racist . If anything, I'd like to see VII stay away from ridiculous racial stereotypes that are unfortunately so common when someone goes "Look, we have X too! We're socially progressive!". It almost invadiably ends up being awkward and forced, and upset or insult more people than it pleases.

Also, Amaimon's post was fine, I wasn't responding to the flamebait at all.

Explain to me why we're discussing something so contextually inconsequential again? Oh, right, because you keep bringing it up as if it's something worth regurgitating and then overinterpreting comments in order to attack those that don't belong to your sociopolitical clique.

Since you object to my comment as racist, I take it you are fine with ridiculous racial stereotypes that are so prevalent within "comedy". To me it's just insulting to everyone (no matter race, but for different reasons) and the fact that the two of you are cheering it on suprises me absolutely not at all.

The fact that the two of you still aren't banned despite repeatedly dragging social issues into threads with the expressed purpose of flamebaiting and derailing is beyond me.

Edited by Fgdsfg

Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Oh my god you knew it was flamebait but you still couldn't resist saying something terrible and racist. How are you not a parody account?

I don't think anyone except the socially deranged or mentally infirmed would consider anything I said racist . If anything, I'd like to see VII stay away from ridiculous racial stereotypes that are unfortunately so common when someone goes "Look, we have X too! We're socially progressive!". It almost invadiably ends up being awkward and forced, and upset or insult more people than it pleases.

Also, Amaimon's post was fine, I wasn't responding to the flamebait at all.

Explain to me why we're discussing something so contextually inconsequential again? Oh, right, because you keep bringing it up as if it's something worth regurgitating and then overinterpreting comments in order to attack those that don't belong to your sociopolitical clique.

Since you object to my comment as racist, I take it you are fine with ridiculous racial stereotypes that are so prevalent within "comedy". To me it's just insulting to everyone (no matter race, but for different reasons) and the fact that the two of you are cheering it on suprises me absolutely not at all.

The fact that the two of you still aren't banned despite repeatedly dragging social issues into threads with the expressed purpose of flamebaiting and derailing is beyond me.

This is a bad post in a lot of ways but I'm very curious to hear examples of media where you consider the inclusion of minorities feels forced.

And, cards on the table, yes I'm doing the same thing where I ask you a leading question expecting you to respond with something awful (in this case racist). But please, do tell.

Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Oh my god you knew it was flamebait but you still couldn't resist saying something terrible and racist. How are you not a parody account?

I don't think anyone except the socially deranged or mentally infirmed would consider anything I said racist . If anything, I'd like to see VII stay away from ridiculous racial stereotypes that are unfortunately so common when someone goes "Look, we have X too! We're socially progressive!". It almost invadiably ends up being awkward and forced, and upset or insult more people than it pleases.

Also, Amaimon's post was fine, I wasn't responding to the flamebait at all.

Explain to me why we're discussing something so contextually inconsequential again? Oh, right, because you keep bringing it up as if it's something worth regurgitating and then overinterpreting comments in order to attack those that don't belong to your sociopolitical clique.

Since you object to my comment as racist, I take it you are fine with ridiculous racial stereotypes that are so prevalent within "comedy". To me it's just insulting to everyone (no matter race, but for different reasons) and the fact that the two of you are cheering it on suprises me absolutely not at all.

The fact that the two of you still aren't banned despite repeatedly dragging social issues into threads with the expressed purpose of flamebaiting and derailing is beyond me.

Also, no one has ever made the "no YOURE the real racist/sexist" argument and not come off as deluded.

EDIT: I don't really see anything that bad about Amaimons comment, to clarify. I was solely referring to fsdfsg

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Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Oh my god you knew it was flamebait but you still couldn't resist saying something terrible and racist. How are you not a parody account?

I don't think anyone except the socially deranged or mentally infirmed would consider anything I said racist . If anything, I'd like to see VII stay away from ridiculous racial stereotypes that are unfortunately so common when someone goes "Look, we have X too! We're socially progressive!". It almost invadiably ends up being awkward and forced, and upset or insult more people than it pleases.

Also, Amaimon's post was fine, I wasn't responding to the flamebait at all.

Explain to me why we're discussing something so contextually inconsequential again? Oh, right, because you keep bringing it up as if it's something worth regurgitating and then overinterpreting comments in order to attack those that don't belong to your sociopolitical clique.

Since you object to my comment as racist, I take it you are fine with ridiculous racial stereotypes that are so prevalent within "comedy". To me it's just insulting to everyone (no matter race, but for different reasons) and the fact that the two of you are cheering it on suprises me absolutely not at all.

The fact that the two of you still aren't banned despite repeatedly dragging social issues into threads with the expressed purpose of flamebaiting and derailing is beyond me.

You didn't say "I hope The movie doesn't make this guy a racist caricature." You purposefully did a parody of "Ebonics" that would obviously never show up in the movies. It was an obvious attempt at hyperbole as humor, but you chose to do a racist depiction of how black people speak as your attempt at humor. You're the one using caricatures for laughs, here.

Also, no one has ever made the "no YOURE the real racist/sexist" argument and not come off as deluded.

EDIT: I don't really see anything that bad about Amaimons comment, to clarify. I was solely referring to fsdfsg.

No, I didn't, because to everyone that isn't insane, I thought it'd be mostly clear. As for it never showing up in movies.. I seriously don't know what to tell you, if you've never seen it. At this point, you're just fishing, though, because I refuse to believe that you haven't seen any movies that ends up showing off caricatures in a mistaken attempt to seem accepting.

The fact that you're fine with that doesn't really matter that much to me, but if you don't see the issue, I don't see how that'd make me the deluded one.

You're increasingly becoming more an more of an obvious sockpuppet eager for acceptance, so I think it's about time to give you the treatment I was adviced during your last co-meltdowns, for the sake of my own sanity and that of others. Again, the fact that someone so repeatedly shitposting and flamebaiting still isn't banned is completely beyond me.

My god, I hope it's nothing like Star Wars: Rebels, where Imperium is "chaotic stupid". Evil for the sake of being bad, "haha i eat your fruit, whaddya gonna do about it?". (Kung Pow - it is eeevil, it is soooo evill, I like it, because it's so bad!) Stromtroopers, that dont do anything, and killing them is fun!

It's a kids show, so they have a kid hero and a few things kids can relate to tossed in. That's how it works. When you look beyond that, they still are established as a credible threat, and I would strongly disagree the imperium is portrayed, in any way, as chaotic stupid. Occupation forces taking liberties is very much a thing. You'll see exactly that kind of behaviour anywhere where the guy smashing the fruit can have the merchant shot and get away with it.

My god, I hope it's nothing like Star Wars: Rebels, where Imperium is "chaotic stupid". Evil for the sake of being bad, "haha i eat your fruit, whaddya gonna do about it?". (Kung Pow - it is eeevil, it is soooo evill, I like it, because it's so bad!) Stromtroopers, that dont do anything, and killing them is fun!

It's a kids show, so they have a kid hero and a few things kids can relate to tossed in. That's how it works. When you look beyond that, they still are established as a credible threat, and I would strongly disagree the imperium is portrayed, in any way, as chaotic stupid. Occupation forces taking liberties is very much a thing. You'll see exactly that kind of behaviour anywhere where the guy smashing the fruit can have the merchant shot and get away with it.

As someone that's been out of the loop because I never liked most things post-second trilogy and paid absolutely zero attention to the Clone Wars series and so forth, I must ask someone that seems to be more in the know; is Star Wars: Rebels any good? I've heard some mixed opinions in passing, but I haven't even really taken a real look at it.

And it's possible to make credible threats that are also morally or politically interesting, even for kid's shows. Yes, one side needs to be established as the "bad guys", but all you make me think of here is Zuko and the Firebenders in The Last Airbender. Brilliant series.

If the stormtroopers are acting all chaotic evil for no valid reason, that's immediately a pretty big turnoff for me, even if, of course, sometimes it does happen that a soldier is a massive douchenozzle.

The first episode is where most of the derp happens, really. I groaned through that one and had some heavy facepalm moments there. I decided to watch the second and third since I was bored and had nothing better to do that evening, and found that they eliminated most of the randomly idiotic things. It's still made for kids. That's very clear in the storytelling, but as an adult, I feel it's something I can watch with my kids and enjoy it as much as they do, even for different reasons, because I like the portrayal of the universe Disney's doing. The Imperium isn't randomly evil either, though one of the officers is a serious sociopath. There's a mulifacetted portrayal of personalities, from the governer who's simply a beaurocrat, to the alien-kill-happy maniac and everything in between. In other words, they have some cartoonish cliche evil lines occassionally (though I could honestly count those on the fingers of ONE hand), and a bit of juvenile humour here and there, but in between that, they're trying, and mostly succeeding, at telling an engaging story throughout each episode and touch themes, at times, that are destinctly darker than one might be used to in Star Wars.

Perhaps it would be fair to say it starts bad, but gets steadily better throughout the season.

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I wonder what Disney's cartoony version of 40k would look like. I don't think that's even possible. ^_^

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I wonder what Disney's cartoony version of 40k would look like. I don't think that's even possible. ^_^

In my opinion, the 40k universe has lost much of its grimmer themes and it is now straying towards nobledark with a pinch of grimderp. So I guess Disney could pull it off just fine.

Anyway, just imagine Genndy Tartakovsky at the helm and *boom* you have an awesome 40k cartoon :) .

So, anyone saw that Episode of Combat! where Kirby, Cage and Doc are trying to charm 3 French girls away from the 3 Quartermasters? A nice Christmas episode quite nuanced form the previous one where Little John blew his firend's face off with a grenade he accidentaly threw off his target (thanks for shooting right then Jerry!)

Seriosuly, can we keep it on subject? Subject being Warhammer 40k, Dark Heresy and the Inquisition....

Aren't you a little black for a stormtrooper?

Haahaa. I hope that stormtroopers will rock in new trilogy "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise". They have new helmets, shiny bits on their blasters (maybe some optics, targeters and stuff, that would be so cool). Maybe their armour will protect them against rocks.

I'll be happy as long as the stormtrooper(s) don't break out in ebonics and go "y' fool" and "'y 'u go' keep a brotha' down?" :D

But yeah, stormtroopers that doesn't objectively suck would be interesting, but at the same time, I have the feeling that it'd feel out of place. After all, we've seen stormtroopers that can't hit the broad side of a barn for 3 movies and countless decades, followed by a ridiculous trilogy of ridiculous slapstick-humour robots, and now suddenly the very same stormtroopers, maybe a decade or two down the line, are all snipers and elite soldiers?

Nah, might as well keep the stormtroopers sucky and use something else to up to tension, even if it's something as easy as "These are Stormtroopers PLUS !". Elite cadre or something, I don't know.

Oh my god you knew it was flamebait but you still couldn't resist saying something terrible and racist. How are you not a parody account?

I don't think anyone except the socially deranged or mentally infirmed would consider anything I said racist . If anything, I'd like to see VII stay away from ridiculous racial stereotypes that are unfortunately so common when someone goes "Look, we have X too! We're socially progressive!". It almost invadiably ends up being awkward and forced, and upset or insult more people than it pleases.

Also, Amaimon's post was fine, I wasn't responding to the flamebait at all.

Explain to me why we're discussing something so contextually inconsequential again? Oh, right, because you keep bringing it up as if it's something worth regurgitating and then overinterpreting comments in order to attack those that don't belong to your sociopolitical clique.

Since you object to my comment as racist, I take it you are fine with ridiculous racial stereotypes that are so prevalent within "comedy". To me it's just insulting to everyone (no matter race, but for different reasons) and the fact that the two of you are cheering it on suprises me absolutely not at all.

The fact that the two of you still aren't banned despite repeatedly dragging social issues into threads with the expressed purpose of flamebaiting and derailing is beyond me.

You didn't say "I hope The movie doesn't make this guy a racist caricature." You purposefully did a parody of "Ebonics" that would obviously never show up in the movies. It was an obvious attempt at hyperbole as humor, but you chose to do a racist depiction of how black people speak as your attempt at humor. You're the one using caricatures for laughs, here.

Also, no one has ever made the "no YOURE the real racist/sexist" argument and not come off as deluded.

EDIT: I don't really see anything that bad about Amaimons comment, to clarify. I was solely referring to fsdfsg.

No, I didn't, because to everyone that isn't insane, I thought it'd be mostly clear. As for it never showing up in movies.. I seriously don't know what to tell you, if you've never seen it. At this point, you're just fishing, though, because I refuse to believe that you haven't seen any movies that ends up showing off caricatures in a mistaken attempt to seem accepting.

The fact that you're fine with that doesn't really matter that much to me, but if you don't see the issue, I don't see how that'd make me the deluded one.

You're increasingly becoming more an more of an obvious sockpuppet eager for acceptance, so I think it's about time to give you the treatment I was adviced during your last co-meltdowns, for the sake of my own sanity and that of others. Again, the fact that someone so repeatedly shitposting and flamebaiting still isn't banned is completely beyond me.

You put a smiley face right after it. It's right there in quotes. No reasonable interpretation of what you wrote could conclude you were decrying racial caricatures in Star Wars on moral grounds. Also, CPS and I never claimed to think those are acceptable in movies. You're trying to gaslight at this point. It's comical how willing you are to lie and try to talk around taking responsibility for what you say.

You put a smiley face right after it. It's right there in quotes. No reasonable interpretation of what you wrote could conclude you were decrying racial caricatures in Star Wars on moral grounds. Also, CPS and I never claimed to think those are acceptable in movies. You're trying to gaslight at this point. It's comical how willing you are to lie and try to talk around taking responsibility for what you say.

Oh, I just assumed so, since you took objection to my statement. I guess all is well, then, and you're just misrepresenting others and looking for reasons to become offended by proxy? Alright.

Saying that I lie is hilarious, considering that I make it a point never to. I make mistakes, same as anyone, but I don't lie. It's also hilarious to say that I somehow have to "take responsibility" for what I say. I do, and in this case, the effective responsibility is somewhere in the vicinity of zero. That you try to attribute things to me that is only real to you and your friend doesn't really make me shiver in my boots out of fear and guilt.

Stop overinterpreting the people around you and assigning blame based on your preconceptions and personal notions. While we're at it, stop trying to derail threads based on your private issues or sociopolitical agendas.

The first episode is where most of the derp happens, really. I groaned through that one and had some heavy facepalm moments there. I decided to watch the second and third since I was bored and had nothing better to do that evening, and found that they eliminated most of the randomly idiotic things. It's still made for kids. That's very clear in the storytelling, but as an adult, I feel it's something I can watch with my kids and enjoy it as much as they do, even for different reasons, because I like the portrayal of the universe Disney's doing. The Imperium isn't randomly evil either, though one of the officers is a serious sociopath. There's a mulifacetted portrayal of personalities, from the governer who's simply a beaurocrat, to the alien-kill-happy maniac and everything in between. In other words, they have some cartoonish cliche evil lines occassionally (though I could honestly count those on the fingers of ONE hand), and a bit of juvenile humour here and there, but in between that, they're trying, and mostly succeeding, at telling an engaging story throughout each episode and touch themes, at times, that are destinctly darker than one might be used to in Star Wars.

Perhaps it would be fair to say it starts bad, but gets steadily better throughout the season.

So, anyone saw that Episode of Combat! where Kirby, Cage and Doc are trying to charm 3 French girls away from the 3 Quartermasters? A nice Christmas episode quite nuanced form the previous one where Little John blew his firend's face off with a grenade he accidentaly threw off his target (thanks for shooting right then Jerry!)

Seriosuly, can we keep it on subject? Subject being Warhammer 40k, Dark Heresy and the Inquisition....

Second, I'm not sure if it's salvageable. I think the thread has really run it's course. Honestly, I'm a bit blown away by the fact that it lasted this long, considering that it's mostly a repeatition of things that have been mentioned elsewhere. Combined with the other thread, we're at over 30 pages of mostly the same topic(s).

If anyone's got anything 40k to rerail this thread, I'd be all for it.

So.

How about dem Tzeentch? That's what all the kids are on about these days, isn't it? Tzeentch? Am I saying that right? Tzeeentch. Sits a bit weird in the mouth. Tzeentch.

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