I'm really impressed when they can design a card that combos with a certain trait but is also a good card if you remove the trait combos. Handmaiden and the first(!) Ent are good examples of this. I'm really excited to start collecting these Ents!Do you guys think we'll get more Silvan cards in the next pack or is this the finale?

I'm wondering if they'll release 2 more "big"/"unique" Silvan allies. We got Rumil and Orophin, but then again, we have all 3 brothers now, so are there other unique Silvans that could be good allies for this new deck type? I don't really know. In any case, I would be surprised if the Silvan decks weren't supported in some way in the last pack. Might be something minor and it may not apply specifically to Silvan, but there will probably be something.

I think that there will be at least 1 silvan card.

Would happily have more... Especially a defensive ally, No use hoping for a Hero... Be great to see Thranduil as an hero some time.... Or even an ally with more than 1 shield

Also... ents look quite interesting... Totally okay if they Include more ents.

I hope that the last unspoiled spirit card of the cycle is an unique Spirit silvan ally. Because right now we have 1 big silvan ally for each sphere (Lore - Haldir, Tactics- Rumil, Leadershit - Orophin), except for spirit.

Yes that would be cool... the more bounce back Slivan's the merrier!

What kind of ability? Return to hand to: explore a location (or add x progress), or bypass travels effects, or nullify threat of x thing, or to discard a treachery card and reveal a new one...

I hope that the last unspoiled spirit card of the cycle is an unique Spirit silvan ally. Because right now we have 1 big silvan ally for each sphere (Lore - Haldir, Tactics- Rumil, Leadershit - Orophin), except for spirit.

I hope so too, but we do have Lorien Guide. Granted, he/she is not unique, so it's still entirely possible. Time will tell.

Lorien Guide is sorta weak on only fit for one thing, while those unique silvans of each sphere are strong and excel at both attacking, questing and even defending (haldir). Lore cards of the last pack are not spoiled too, so we can get both Spirit and Lore silvan uniques who work with Silvan synergy going around.

Yes... I really struggle to include the Lorien Guide in any of my decks... the two hit points are almost enough for Silvan ones... but not quite.

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

laugh... I like the idea of this card and i'm sure people will use it to great effect... but I have had seen too many moments, albeit in dice games, where the the ridiculously armored, shielded, high health commander hidden inside a bunker gets hit and killed by a random shell that miraculously misfires and bounces its way in side the bunker doing maximum damage killing the nearly impervious hero, who failed all his saves, outright... So i'll probably give it a miss.. plus I already have too many unique attachments to fit in my Elven decks.

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

laugh... I like the idea of this card and i'm sure people will use it to great effect... but I have had seen too many moments, albeit in dice games, where the the ridiculously armored, shielded, high health commander hidden inside a bunker gets hit and killed by a random shell that miraculously misfires and bounces its way in side the bunker doing maximum damage killing the nearly impervious hero, who failed all his saves, outright... So i'll probably give it a miss.. plus I already have too many unique attachments to fit in my Elven decks.

40K is a terrible game by a terrible company and you are terrible for playing it. Unless you're not talking about 40K, in which case, keep on keeping on.

Are there any cards that return events from your discard pile to your hand - other than Hama for Tactics, and the 4 attachments from Against the Shadow that let you recycle them? If not, I hope some Silvan-themed card in The Antlered Crown will do this, so we can use The Tree People, Pursuing the Enemy etc more times in total.

Dwarven Tomb.

The White Council

The White Council

But it does not returns it into the hand.

I hope that the last unspoiled spirit card of the cycle is an unique Spirit silvan ally. Because right now we have 1 big silvan ally for each sphere (Lore - Haldir, Tactics- Rumil, Leadershit - Orophin), except for spirit.

Yes that would be cool... the more bounce back Slivan's the merrier!

What kind of ability? Return to hand to: explore a location (or add x progress), or bypass travels effects, or nullify threat of x thing, or to discard a treachery card and reveal a new one...

Silvan allies have "Enters play" abilities. The events have the "return to hand" abilities.

Yes... I really struggle to include the Lorien Guide in any of my decks... the two hit points are almost enough for Silvan ones... but not quite.

I have her in my 2-handed Silvan decks, and she isn't terrible, but sometimes I do wish there was someone more useful. Her ability does come in pretty handy sometimes, though; especially if the active location has an ability that is active while it is the active location, because then you can possibly clear it before staging so that it can't trigger during staging or something. Would definitely be more useful if you could choose the location that you're placing it on, though, or even if she costed 2 resources instead. I would even be ok with you removing the 1 attack in order to feel good about lowering the cost (or 1 health, but I'd prefer to just remove the attack).

40K is a terrible game by a terrible company and you are terrible for playing it. Unless you're not talking about 40K, in which case, keep on keeping on.

Big GW fanboy then? The example was from 40k. Haven't played in a long, long time...

I hope that the last unspoiled spirit card of the cycle is an unique Spirit silvan ally. Because right now we have 1 big silvan ally for each sphere (Lore - Haldir, Tactics- Rumil, Leadershit - Orophin), except for spirit.

Yes that would be cool... the more bounce back Slivan's the merrier!

What kind of ability? Return to hand to: explore a location (or add x progress), or bypass travels effects, or nullify threat of x thing, or to discard a treachery card and reveal a new one...

Silvan allies have "Enters play" abilities. The events has the "return to hand" abilities.

Yes... I really struggle to include the Lorien Guide in any of my decks... the two hit points are almost enough for Silvan ones... but not quite.

I have her in my 2-handed Silvan decks, and she isn't terrible, but sometimes I do wish there was someone more useful. Her ability does come in pretty handy sometimes, though; especially if the active location has an ability that is active while it is the active location, because then you can possibly clear it before staging so that it can't trigger during staging or something. Would definitely be more useful if you could choose the location that you're placing it on, though, or even if she costed 2 resources instead. I would even be ok with you removing the 1 attack in order to feel good about lowering the cost (or 1 health, but I'd prefer to just remove the attack).

Yeah... it would be great if she fitted current Silvan ally model; 2 cost, 1 hit point...

Are there any cards that return events from your discard pile to your hand - other than Hama for Tactics, and the 4 attachments from Against the Shadow that let you recycle them? If not, I hope some Silvan-themed card in The Antlered Crown will do this, so we can use The Tree People, Pursuing the Enemy etc more times in total.

I might like this... but i'm concerned that it could get too powerful... I already consistently draw a deck and half per quest with one of my Silvan decks... being able to having synergistic Silvan allies that could recycle Happy Tree Friends and the other amazing 0 cost events even more times could get insane...

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

You're totally wrong, man! LOL

(Reminds me of the joke in which a man brings a bomb into a plane to make sure there won#t be any terrorists, because it's statictically impossible that there are two bombs on a plane.)

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

You're totally wrong, man! LOL

(Reminds me of the joke in which a man brings a bomb into a plane to make sure there won#t be any terrorists, because it's statictically impossible that there are two bombs on a plane.)

I've got no problem being wrong that's how I learn, if it works out I'll be happy I tried it. I'll report on how it goes.

Good joke.

Really hope we get the release/news article today.... need full pic spoilers of the player cards so they can be proxied for the two more weeks I wont have the AP for

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

Interesting approach. Maybe you could try adding multiple duplicates of unique cards in the deck instead of drawing duds? I was thinking that the mirror could be used to draw then discard unique spirit allies, which could provide excellent material for Caldara's ability. Add the record attachment that allows you to play events from the discard pile to use dwarven tomb so u can return cancellation to your hand, or play fortune or fate. I sense some of kind of mono-spirit deck brewing but I am a mediocre deck builder myself, maybe you can come up with something better instead.

I might like this... but i'm concerned that it could get too powerful... I already consistently draw a deck and half per quest with one of my Silvan decks... being able to having synergistic Silvan allies that could recycle Happy Tree Friends and the other amazing 0 cost events even more times could get insane...

I despise the cartoon, but I lol'd at calling this event that

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

Interesting approach. Maybe you could try adding multiple duplicates of unique cards in the deck instead of drawing duds? I was thinking that the mirror could be used to draw then discard unique spirit allies, which could provide excellent material for Caldara's ability. Add the record attachment that allows you to play events from the discard pile to use dwarven tomb so u can return cancellation to your hand, or play fortune or fate. I sense some of kind of mono-spirit deck brewing but I am a mediocre deck builder myself, maybe you can come up with something better instead.

Yeah, by dud I meant other copies of unique cards in the deck, that I already have in hand or have played.

Here is a situation. What would you do?

You have 2 cards in hand, Light of Valinor, which you have already played and Elrond's counsel which you are hoping to use during the quest phase next round. You use the mirror and of the 10 cards two are the same cards already in hand.

You realize you will have to discard a card, so will you:

1) choose the best card of the 10 and potentially lose it or EC if LoV is not discarded.

2) choose EC to now potentially have 2 In hand If LoV is discarded, but insure that you have at least one EC

3) choose LoV hoping that the odds favor discarding an LoV over the EC, and also removing the LoV from the deck making future draws better.

Alternatively you could use the EC in planning to make sure it is not lost, but then you will have a 50/50 chance of losing the card selected with the mirror, which in that case it might be better to choose LoV and lose one of the 2 copies in hand and thinning the deck of an unwanted card.

I think each player is going to have very different ways of using the mirror based on how much risk they are willing to take, the method I'm suggesting leans toward the safer side of the spectrum, but may not be the wisest use of the card.

The more I think about the dilemma the card imposes the more I really like the design of it. I'm happy it's not a straight forward strategy or the ability to always select the best card without any risk. These types of decisions add a deeper level to the choices we make in this game.

I will use the mirror in a Caldara deck with Eowyn.

I search for a northen tracker and if the tracker wasn't discard by the mirror, i will discard it with Eowyn.

Caldara deck need discard effect, the mirror is perfect for that.

And if an energy event or attachment is discarded, we could retrieve it with dwarven tomb.

I will use the mirror in a Caldara deck with Eowyn.

I search for a northen tracker and if the tracker wasn't discard by the mirror, i will discard it with Eowyn.

Caldara deck need discard effect, the mirror is perfect for that.

And if an energy event or attachment is discarded, we could retrieve it with dwarven tomb.

Yes discarding a card is really no big deal for a spirit deck. There are many ways to bring back cards from discard pile in the sphere.

I will use the mirror in a Caldara deck with Eowyn.

I search for a northen tracker and if the tracker wasn't discard by the mirror, i will discard it with Eowyn.

Caldara deck need discard effect, the mirror is perfect for that.

And if an energy event or attachment is discarded, we could retrieve it with dwarven tomb.

Yes discarding a card is really no big deal for a spirit deck. There are many ways to bring back cards from discard pile in the sphere.

So it also makes perfect sense that Galadriel's mirror attaches to the spirit Hero version of Galadriel. I am really looking forward to try it out and am very intrigued by your propositions, Tracker1. I do believe that the Mirror has its use in specially crafted decks, but I somehow also see it in a Caldara deck rather than anything else.

However, in the conundrum you posed, the best use would probably indeed be trying to thin out your deck rather than just drawing something useful and hoping to not have to discard it. Well, there is always the option to not use the mirror, too. That said I'd probably use EC and then draw for another LoV...

Happily the mirror only exhausts itself, and it's only 1 cost (if I remember correctly). I like it a lot. So many decks types to try out now! Curse you FFG!! I need to clone myself...

I think that the place of the mirror is in deck which use the discard pile.

So i will use the mirror in order to search a specific card.

If the card stay in my hand, fine i use it.

If the card goes to discard pile, fine i will retreive it with dwarven tomb, stand and fight, Erebor Hammersmith, Map of Earnil etc ...

If Caldara has been discarded after using his capacity, it will be very pleasant to quickly retreive Fortune and Fate in my hand or discard pile (with dwarven tomb or Map of Earnil).

Had a few thoughts on how it might use Mirror of Galadriel. With my luck I know the discarded card will always be something i'll be kicking myself over, and I'm okay with that happening occasionally. but after thinking about it bit I came up with a different strategy for using the card. I might use it as a deck thinner, which it is already, but instead of selecting the best card I'll select the worst. Which means I'll try to select a duplicate card that I already have in hand or that I have already played. It makes the most sense to do this with unique cards. The more dead unique cards I can pull into my hand will thin my deck and when using the mirror it will make it more likely to discard one of these cards that is no longer needed.

At first reading of the card I thought i'd always select the most useful card and take the gamble, which will become even riskier with few cards in hand. Now, i think it might be better to take the deck cloggers out of the deck so future draws will be that much better.

I could be totally wrong on this, but I'm interested to give it a try.

Interesting approach. Maybe you could try adding multiple duplicates of unique cards in the deck instead of drawing duds? I was thinking that the mirror could be used to draw then discard unique spirit allies, which could provide excellent material for Caldara's ability. Add the record attachment that allows you to play events from the discard pile to use dwarven tomb so u can return cancellation to your hand, or play fortune or fate. I sense some of kind of mono-spirit deck brewing but I am a mediocre deck builder myself, maybe you can come up with something better instead.

Yeah, by dud I meant other copies of unique cards in the deck, that I already have in hand or have played.

Here is a situation. What would you do?

You have 2 cards in hand, Light of Valinor, which you have already played and Elrond's counsel which you are hoping to use during the quest phase next round. You use the mirror and of the 10 cards two are the same cards already in hand.

You realize you will have to discard a card, so will you:

1) choose the best card of the 10 and potentially lose it or EC if LoV is not discarded.

2) choose EC to now potentially have 2 In hand If LoV is discarded, but insure that you have at least one EC

3) choose LoV hoping that the odds favor discarding an LoV over the EC, and also removing the LoV from the deck making future draws better.

Alternatively you could use the EC in planning to make sure it is not lost, but then you will have a 50/50 chance of losing the card selected with the mirror, which in that case it might be better to choose LoV and lose one of the 2 copies in hand and thinning the deck of an unwanted card.

I think each player is going to have very different ways of using the mirror based on how much risk they are willing to take, the method I'm suggesting leans toward the safer side of the spectrum, but may not be the wisest use of the card.

The more I think about the dilemma the card imposes the more I really like the design of it. I'm happy it's not a straight forward strategy or the ability to always select the best card without any risk. These types of decisions add a deeper level to the choices we make in this game.

I think this makes only sense if you have less than 3 cards in your hand. Otherwise I'd prefer a 75 chance to get a great card and play it to just wait for possibly ten turns before I finally draw that card.

My copy just arrived, picking up tomorrow. Now I need to build up my deck again as I've been playing TRD.