There is always a lot of talk about being able to do strain damage to a target through the use of the Coersion skill. Is this an ability only available to the Politico? Or is this something any one can do? If yes to anyone being able to do it, where is the writeup for this in the CRB (or related books)?
Using Coersion to Do Strain Damage
Listen to Order 66 Podcast Episode 6. that is where it is discussed with Jay little. The guy who game up with the system.
Sure, but this seems to be something GMChris has "house ruled". Is this taking something away from the politico?
Appears someone else asked the same question of the Order 66Boards:
"I just finished listening to Ep. 6 on the O66 podcast again. Awesome stuff about creating Social combat in the game.
"I started thinking, how someone could use social skills (Charm, coerce, deception, etc) in physical combat settings. Talents like Scathing Tirade and Inspired Rhetoric are great for these types of occasions. But can you use social skills without these talents with positive results? What mechanics would you use? Anyone like to share an epic moment when someone in your group used one of these skills and dealt wounds/strain, changed the entire situation or just had an awesome outcome?
"(My only example to date is when a smuggler used a deception check to fool some minions they were fighting into believing there were more of them, and that they should run away.)"
Listen to the episode.
and no it does not take anything away from anyone. it is just a tool by which a GM can use to measure how well a characters social arguments work. and it is not really a house rule. It is just a way of doing things that the game designer himself uses and GM Chris came to on his own and started using
I just listened to the section of the episode. It's good. But I've also read the politico talents. Seems like their system replicates that of "Scathing Tyrade". Just want to ensure its harder to do normally than if you tried it using the talent. Make sense?
Scathing tirade is a combat thing. not necessarily a social encounter thing. It takes nothing away from anyone. It is just a tool for measuring how well people do in a social encounter. But one thing to make sure. Using Charm on someone is going to have different results than using coercion.
How well did your social roll do against a person. Strain is a way of measuring that.
Whaddya know, it's in the CRB under the Coercion skill:
"Extra [success] on a Coercion check may be used to inflict strain upon the target at a rate of one strain per [2 Success]. By spending [2 Advantage] the character may affect unexpected subjects beyond the original target."
Awayputurwpn, thank you.
I was clearing having an embolism. Can't believe it was in the skill and I missed it. <Facepalm>
They mentioned on the Begginer Box Episode that it was even in there.
Feeling like a goose now aren't I???
Thanks again.
Imagine: Two Stormtroopers in a room.
Option 1: Shoot them with blasters.... a lot, if need be (wounds as wounds). If successful, they go down.
Option 2: Yell at them for not getting to... whatever other place makes sense (strain as wounds). If successful, they leave.
Result in both cases: No more stormtroopers in a room.
Edited by Aluminium FalconImagine: Two Stormtroopers in a room.
Option 1: Shoot them with blasters.... a lot, if need be (wounds as wounds). If successful, they go down.
Option 2: Yell at them for not getting to... whatever other place makes sense (strain as wounds). If successful, they leave.
Result in both cases: No more stormtroopers in a room.
Yes, but remember who you're dealing with
the minimum dillifculty for this would be Daunting (CDDD with two minion troopers, or CCDD with a sergeant) due to the trooper's Willpower 3 and the fact that you're trying to get them to betray their core beliefs.
So better to shoot them down than try to talk them down
your average brown Wookiee might be a better Coercion attempt.
EDIT: Fixed dice abbreviations, thanks AgentJ
Edited by awayputurwpn
Imagine: Two Stormtroopers in a room.
Option 1: Shoot them with blasters.... a lot, if need be (wounds as wounds). If successful, they go down.
Option 2: Yell at them for not getting to... whatever other place makes sense (strain as wounds). If successful, they leave.
Result in both cases: No more stormtroopers in a room.
Yes, but remember who you're dealing with
the minimum dillifculty for this would be Daunting (CPPP with two minion troopers, or CCPP with a sergeant) due to the trooper's Willpower 3 and the fact that you're trying to get them to betray their core beliefs.
So better to shoot them down than try to talk them down
your average brown Wookiee might be a better Coercion attempt.
Certainly... And generally the exact case.
I kept the surrounding circumstances undefined to leave the actual difficulty as open as possible.
Perhaps there is no way to approach the stormtroopers without being seen and the weapons you have are not suited to long range or perhaps the politico is a human who has successfully passed as an officer, to this point.
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Yes, but remember who you're dealing with
the minimum dillifculty for this would be Daunting (CPPP with two minion troopers, or CCPP with a sergeant) due to the trooper's Willpower 3 and the fact that you're trying to get them to betray their core beliefs.
So better to shoot them down than try to talk them down
your average brown Wookiee might be a better Coercion attempt.
This is why I wish people would not abbreviate. I am guessing CPPP (I added the bold & color) that is C for challenge and P for difficulty dice? So guessing you used the type of die and the color at the same time instead of sticking with either color for both or type of die for both? At first I was totally confused trying to figure out what cppp was.
Yes, but remember who you're dealing with
the minimum dillifculty for this would be Daunting (CPPP with two minion troopers, or CCPP with a sergeant) due to the trooper's Willpower 3 and the fact that you're trying to get them to betray their core beliefs.
So better to shoot them down than try to talk them down
your average brown Wookiee might be a better Coercion attempt.
This is why I wish people would not abbreviate. I am guessing CPPP (I added the bold & color) that is C for challenge and P for difficulty dice? So guessing you used the type of die and the color at the same time instead of sticking with either color for both or type of die for both? At first I was totally confused trying to figure out what cppp was.
I mixed my abbreviations, you misplaced your bbcode "end quote."
We are both human, I guess ![]()
Edit: fixed the quoted post for dice abbreviations.
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