Surprised this hasn't been posted yet, enjoy:
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet, enjoy:
FINALLY!!!! Really looking forward to watching this at lunch!
Kind of a slaughter..those Falcons were no match to Whisper without a gunner.
Chomp. That's pretty brutal. Honestly does anyone see a way those Falcons could beat that list?
A lot of talk about taking stress from Soontir with Yorr. I thought Soontir had to take the stress to get the extra focus.
A lot of talk about taking stress from Soontir with Yorr. I thought Soontir had to take the stress to get the extra focus.
He does. Not sure how useful Yorr is in this squad. Interested to know how he played against other squads at GenCon.
Green dice are fickle. If he wouldn't have split his fire he would have had more of a chance. I still think he'd have lost, but he'd have had a chance if he could've focused Fel or Whisper down.
Also the dice were hot for Rick too. Coupled with the fact he was allowed to get that cloak/focus/TL he forgot... well, it was pretty big. But what if's are ultimately futile and it was a good match to watch none the less. Good job to TC on the vid.
Just one small critique...Fel was in an interceptor not a phantom, and their HUD clearly displayed 2 shield and 2 hull for him.
Yorr was there in case Fel or Whisper needed to K-turn or facing some stress inducing abilities.
A lot of talk about taking stress from Soontir with Yorr. I thought Soontir had to take the stress to get the extra focus.
He does. Not sure how useful Yorr is in this squad. Interested to know how he played against other squads at GenCon.
I think it's mostly so the Phantom (or Fel if he's not stressed at the start of a turn) can do K-turns when necessary and then still do actions and Cloak after shooting. When I fly Phantoms + a miniswarm I usually try and include a black with wingman for similar reasons, takes people by surprise to see a Phantom do a K.
Edited by stmackI don't like the way the game started. I know that's how people do it but "zzzzzzzzz".
I'm glad the falcons lost, I'm a rebel player mainly but I really don't like those sort of lists.
Great game.
Anyone know if he took this list to Worlds?
No gunner on the falcons really hurts them against high agility lists, you get to almost guarantee a damage every shot which really matters when you're only rolling a few dice.
Awesome, thanks for posting!
Man, no way in hell would I let my opponent take the cloak & focus he forgot early on there! that pretty much saved whisper from death!!! I can't believe the guy asked if he could take those actions he forgot, that's un-sporting if anything, in a friendly game I'd probably allow it but at Nationals, in the final, you make a mistake, I'm capitalizing, you ask me if you can take it back, I say hell no, you made a mistake, the game is all about NOT making mistakes!!!
Thanks, I will link to this in the Nationals results thread. I don't think Team Covenant has posted a link to it in their news feed yet, is why nobody mentioned it.
Man, no way in hell would I let my opponent take the cloak & focus he forgot early on there! that pretty much saved whisper from death!!! I can't believe the guy asked if he could take those actions he forgot, that's un-sporting if anything, in a friendly game I'd probably allow it but at Nationals, in the final, you make a mistake, I'm capitalizing, you ask me if you can take it back, I say hell no, you made a mistake, the game is all about NOT making mistakes!!!
And that's why you'd never win a trophy for sportsmanship, which is fine because you'd have the benefits of winning!
I'd allow it just like i wouldn't say a ship 1mm off the board was out aslong as next turn it could get on the board safely.
But i am a casual player so don't need to be ultra competitive.
Man, no way in hell would I let my opponent take the cloak & focus he forgot early on there! that pretty much saved whisper from death!!! I can't believe the guy asked if he could take those actions he forgot, that's un-sporting if anything, in a friendly game I'd probably allow it but at Nationals, in the final, you make a mistake, I'm capitalizing, you ask me if you can take it back, I say hell no, you made a mistake, the game is all about NOT making mistakes!!!
If it matters to you, feel free to go back and read the thread on it where both players (I think it was both) explained their thoughts and plenty of the community chimed in as well. http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/113898-my-gen-con-finals-mistake-long/
Edited by AlexWIt is such an obvious action to cloak and grab Whisper´s focus token. The game might be about making the most out of your opponent´s mistakes, but not these kind of mistakes in my opinion. I´m not sure if the 2 Falcons would have won the game anyway. I don´t know if anyone played out that scenario yet. They didn´t have a gunner to get reliable damage on Soontir and no engine upgrade to completely outmaneuver the shuttle.
Good to see that a friendly form of sportsmanship matters more to some rather than the dominant form of sportsmanship.
Good to see that a friendly form of sportsmanship matters more to some rather than the dominant form of sportsmanship.
That winning list is really hard to fly. I know people give phantoms a hard time, but man... I have a lot of respect for someone that can manage those three ships on a table at that level of play.
Edited by TasteTheRainbowPlayers that wait to pounce on an error like that drive a lot of players, especially the newer ones, away.
Most people are not going to pounce on every mistake a newbie makes so they can crush them. Pouncing on an error at the GenCon National Championship is a far cry from doing it to a newbie.
True, a player who preys upon the uninitiated is doing the community a disservice, but I also believe that at higher levels of play there is an important place for friendly sportsmanship. Meaning, I think there is difference between allowing your opponent to correct a mistake when it is, "Oh crap, I forgot to do that," and "Oh crap, I forgot to do that, again."
Hopefully we can avoid a debate on that topic and agree that the game and video were good! ![]()
Hmm. In the big bumper car section, he decides not to shoot down either whisper or soontir, even though soontir is range 1. I don't think 3 dice F Evade is that strong, 4 attacks probably would have killed him.
What are your thought?
The lack of gunners on the Falcons does mean that shooting through 4dice F on Whisper is hard though. I just don't see any reason to gun down the Lambda. You can easily get past it and with Rick's engagement angle, that shuttle has no chance of being relevant again...
anyone want to explain some of this to me?
Meaning, I think there is difference between allowing your opponent to correct a mistake when it is, "Oh crap, I forgot to do that," and "Oh crap, I forgot to do that, again."
I agree, but at the same time there is a space between Good and Poor Sportsmanship. Doing what he did is an example of good sportsmanship, but if he had refused, that would not of been poor sportsmanship on his part.