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That looks more like some of the players I've heard about.

I can dig it. Even if the movies don't really have that pulp feel to them, the titles sure do, and that should never change.

My only complaint is that it cuts a little close to "The Force Unleashed," which I just found to be the thematic antithesis of the films.

I would have preferred "Star Wars VII: Gungan/Ewok plague" personally.....

Well, considering the first movie didn't originally have a subtitle when it was released and the third movie had a different working title (the aforementioned Revenge of the Jedi), this one could, at the last minute, gain a different title or not. Frankly the title doesn't do much for me other than make me think of the Force Unleashed video game titles... depending on what the story of the movie is, something like "Rise of the New Order" could work... though it has some bad connotations in some countries... So, that is part of the problem of titling a movie for release in many countries... don't want to insult someone...

My only complaint is that it cuts a little close to "The Force Unleashed," which I just found to be the thematic antithesis of the films good storytelling.

Fixed that for you

So... When the Force awakens, which side of the bed is it waking up on? It's supposed to be all balanced, right? What does that mean, anyway?

So... When the Force awakens, which side of the bed is it waking up on? It's supposed to be all balanced, right? What does that mean, anyway?

Depends on how you woke it.

The Force awakens like me this morning, after a hard Saturday night, with a vicious hangover and a desperate need for coffee.

The Force awakens like me this morning, after a hard Saturday night, with a vicious hangover and a desperate need for coffee.

so there is a line on the coffee cup and you should not speak to it until the coffee has reached that point?

Ahaha, something like that! I feel just about human at this point, though the strange creature in the mirror might argue with that!

For the Star Wars fan caffeine addicts out there, you can pick up some cool new Rebels packaged coffee cups at Walmart/Cosco/Target for only $5 each. I have an Imperial one and one that looks like R2D2.

Don't they mean "The medichlorians awaken"?

Myself and my nephew had this conversation last night driving home from seeing Interstellar (great flick even with some plot problems).

We speculated that it was about the balancing of the Force. When the dark side Sith had won, wiping out nearly all of the light side Jedi, the Force awoke in the Skywalkers in order to bring the balance back. Now perhaps the light side is far too dominant, so the Force is awakening on the dark side again. It's the only thing we could come up with and taking this further it means there could be swings back and forth like this ad-infinity unless someone somehow creates a perfect balance (a Jedi Council with equal dark and light side users perhaps).

Myself and my nephew had this conversation last night driving home from seeing Interstellar (great flick even with some plot problems).

We speculated that it was about the balancing of the Force. When the dark side Sith had won, wiping out nearly all of the light side Jedi, the Force awoke in the Skywalkers in order to bring the balance back. Now perhaps the light side is far too dominant, so the Force is awakening on the dark side again. It's the only thing we could come up with and taking this further it means there could be swings back and forth like this ad-infinity unless someone somehow creates a perfect balance (a Jedi Council with equal dark and light side users perhaps).

Except that it was a Skywalker that aided in the destruction of the remnants of the Jedi Order... which brought balance to the force by reducing the numbers to 2 on each side (until other canon sources showed more surviving Order 66), Obi-wan and Yoda on one side vs Vader and Palpatine on the other...

I'm sure that "The Force Awakens" is approperate for the context of the film. The problem we have with it is that it seems that the film is nothing like what the EU said the Post RotJ universe was like. It was written that the Republic came back and everything was pretty decent, but it seems like this movie will be that the universe went into chaos for all those decades.

As for titles I hate, I'm not a fan of Attack of the Clones for the same reason why I don't like calling the war the Clone Wars. In real life, wars aren't named after the good guys. The goog guys never attack, they only defend. Attack of the Clones and Clone Wars would be great names if the Clones were the bad guys, not the ones trying to defend the Republic. Now, if we replaced Clone with Droid, then that would make more sense.

I'm sure that "The Force Awakens" is approperate for the context of the film. The problem we have with it is that it seems that the film is nothing like what the EU said the Post RotJ universe was like. It was written that the Republic came back and everything was pretty decent, but it seems like this movie will be that the universe went into chaos for all those decades.

As for titles I hate, I'm not a fan of Attack of the Clones for the same reason why I don't like calling the war the Clone Wars. In real life, wars aren't named after the good guys. The goog guys never attack, they only defend. Attack of the Clones and Clone Wars would be great names if the Clones were the bad guys, not the ones trying to defend the Republic. Now, if we replaced Clone with Droid, then that would make more sense.

Not sure what EU material you read, but after RotJ it was still chaos and war. With the loss of the Emperor, the Empire broke up into various Moff factions, each controlling their chunk of the galaxy. Some worked together, others fell to be no better than a warlord in a sector. This is the time of the X-wing novels, Dark Empire, etc... It took decades for the newly formed New Republic to consolidate their hold on the midrim and inner core leaving the Empire to just be a shrunken chunk of space run by the remaining Moffs. And even after that it has been nothing to horror after horror. The Black Fleet Crisis, the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion, the crisis with the New Jedi Order vs Aboleth... etc... There hasn't been even a few years of peace for the Republic since it was reestablished.

Not sure what EU material you read, but after RotJ it was still chaos and war.

I learned the EU from the street, yo. Where the cool kids keep it hip and fresh. Or something like that...

Thanks for the clarification. Looks like my assumptions from what I've picked up from Wookiepedia were wrong.

Considering TCW and how the Force has been expanded and somewhat more explained, or at least shown to have many sides and aspects hitherto only speculated about - or molested by people like Denning and Anderson - this title makes sense, to me. Whatever the story turns out to be, it's a mysterious title in its own way.

Funny how people assume the clones were the good guys. They weren't really. No side really was given the Palps was playing both sides.

Well, Palps (and his inner circle, Grievous and Dooku) was the bad side, both the republic and separatists had legitimate positions and weere, at least on some level, fighting the good fight.

History is written by the winners. Since Palp and the Republic and the clones won, I would think the war would be referred to more as the Separatist War, not the Clone War. Which is why I never fully enjoyed the prequel trilogy. I always thought that there was a clone army that was fought by the Jedi not that they fought with the clones. But it is what it is. I can always change things if I really want to.

I guess it should be referred to as either the Separatist War, but also more importantly: the Jedi Rebellion or Uprising or somesuchness.

The "Jedi rebellion" was a event near the end of the Clone War not the whole war.

Also, if you take the Hundred Years War and the War of the Roses as examples you can assume that wars are named after it most distinctive aspect not necessarily the side that win or loose. (And the clones were the new kids on the block after all)

Obviously there are no hard and fast rules. We've got the World Wars, Korean War, Vietnam War, etc. or wars known for the years they happened (War of 1812) and many other variables. Just always seemed off for me.

Obviously there are no hard and fast rules. We've got the World Wars, Korean War, Vietnam War, etc. or wars known for the years they happened (War of 1812) and many other variables. Just always seemed off for me.

The War of 1812 is also inaccurately named, since the vast majority of the fighting happened in 1813 and 1814 (with some happening after the formal cessation of hostilities in 1815!). It's only so named because the American government formally declared the war in 1812, though the British didn't really notice until the next year.

So I completely sign on to the idea that the Clone Wars are named after the most notable part of it -- the use of clones as a born and bred armed force -- rather than the comparatively ho-hum affair of battle droids and secessionist attempts.