Another Place for Expose?

By Bohrdumb, in X-Wing

I like finding ways to utilize oft disregarded cards and ships, seeing if I can give them new life.Expose is one of those little beauties. It's initial view looks so sexy, but then you realize what you have to give up to make it work. So let's find a new home for it...in Scum and Villainy.

Palob (one of the new HWKs) could make use of it, since he can swipe someone else's Focus. It works, but isn't too meaningful.

Boba Fett is an interesting choice. You'd spend your action to Expose. Crankng up to 4 Attack and only 1 Agility. But if you're sitting at R1 of a few enemies, you're rerolling a ton of dice, and are possibly pulling off an R1 shot as well, meaning 5 attack dice, with rerolls. Could be fun.

Kath Scarlett also has some possibilities as you could easily get 6 attack dice (rear arc, R1, Expose). The issue there is finding some way to augment the shot as 5 + Focus > 6 naked.

Experimental Interface alone is going to make Expose better. Fully viable for the cost? Probably not, but viable. Chiraneau w/ Expose and EI is a bad man, especially when run with a Black Squadron with Wingman to strip the stress.

I like the idea of Gemmer Sojan being given Expose through the A-Wing Test Pilot. Use it mainly at Range 1 and 3 when you get a boost to the defense dice anyway.

Experimental Interface alone is going to make Expose better. Fully viable for the cost? Probably not, but viable. Chiraneau w/ Expose and EI is a bad man, especially when run with a Black Squadron with Wingman to strip the stress.

Gaining an attack die is obviously valued pretty highly - which I can't disagree with, better that they're cautious with it... but 7 points to gain an attack die while getting both stress AND turning every opponent's ship into Wedge? No, really not viable for the cost.

Also can be used on Jake Farrell with PTL, expose, a-wing test pilot and chardan refit. 29 points of fun.

I was thinking about it on Palob, but honestly I think he would work much more naturally with Opportunist: since he's stripping away Focus and Evade tokens anyway it would be much more likely to trigger the ability from that and the fact your enemies might also be trying alternative actions.

That said, maybe Kaa'to Leeachos, or Kavil? But I guess you'd need EI on Kavil to make his Blaster Turret work (unless you use Autoblaster Turret instead for four attack dice!)

I was thinking about it on Palob, but honestly I think he would work much more naturally with Opportunist: since he's stripping away Focus and Evade tokens anyway it would be much more likely to trigger the ability from that and the fact your enemies might also be trying alternative actions.

That said, maybe Kaa'to Leeachos, or Kavil? But I guess you'd need EI on Kavil to make his Blaster Turret work (unless you use Autoblaster Turret instead for four attack dice!)

Kavil only gets his extra die for attacking outside of his arc, and Expose effects primary weapons which have to be in arc. They don't work together.

I still think Corran Horn is a candidate for exposing himself. Basically, use it when you know you're going to doubletap. Pair with FCS, perhaps.

Experimental Interface alone is going to make Expose better. Fully viable for the cost? Probably not, but viable. Chiraneau w/ Expose and EI is a bad man, especially when run with a Black Squadron with Wingman to strip the stress.

Gaining an attack die is obviously valued pretty highly - which I can't disagree with, better that they're cautious with it... but 7 points to gain an attack die while getting both stress AND turning every opponent's ship into Wedge? No, really not viable for the cost.

Viable for whom though? Decimators honestly don't care about losing agility, since they have zero. Like wise if you can dodge arcs or adjust your move in response through actions (Fat Han comes to mind) losing agility isn't a big deal either.

I already like Expose on Vader because my opponent has to take the possibility Vader will have more Attack into account but I don't have to do it. Basically the more variables they have to consider, the likelier they are to make a mistake.

I honestly think that with Experimental Interface and being able to increase Attack and still get another option Expose will become more useful and will probably see play. I'd rather run Han with Expose, EI and Gunner than Dash with Outrider & HLC.

I probably wouldn't take it to a tournament but I don't think this is a bad use of Expose right now.

Edited by Duty Remains

Experimental Interface alone is going to make Expose better. Fully viable for the cost? Probably not, but viable. Chiraneau w/ Expose and EI is a bad man, especially when run with a Black Squadron with Wingman to strip the stress.

Gaining an attack die is obviously valued pretty highly - which I can't disagree with, better that they're cautious with it... but 7 points to gain an attack die while getting both stress AND turning every opponent's ship into Wedge? No, really not viable for the cost.

Viable for whom though? Decimators honestly don't care about losing agility, since they have zero. Like wise if you can dodge arcs or adjust your move in response through actions (Fat Han comes to mind) losing agility isn't a big deal either.

I already like Expose on Vader because my opponent has to take the possibility Vader will have more Attack into account but I don't have to do it. Basically the more variables they have to consider, the likelier they are to make a mistake.

I honestly think that with Experimental Interface and being able to increase Attack and still get another option Expose will become more useful and will probably see play. I'd rather run Han with Expose, EI and Gunner than Dash with Outrider & HLC.

I probably wouldn't take it to a tournament but I don't think this is a bad use of Expose right now.

Fat Han is questionable - as is anything with C3P0. Losing that defense die means you're not getting the added benefit.

Experimental Interface alone is going to make Expose better. Fully viable for the cost? Probably not, but viable. Chiraneau w/ Expose and EI is a bad man, especially when run with a Black Squadron with Wingman to strip the stress.

Gaining an attack die is obviously valued pretty highly - which I can't disagree with, better that they're cautious with it... but 7 points to gain an attack die while getting both stress AND turning every opponent's ship into Wedge? No, really not viable for the cost.

Viable for whom though? Decimators honestly don't care about losing agility, since they have zero. Like wise if you can dodge arcs or adjust your move in response through actions (Fat Han comes to mind) losing agility isn't a big deal either.

I already like Expose on Vader because my opponent has to take the possibility Vader will have more Attack into account but I don't have to do it. Basically the more variables they have to consider, the likelier they are to make a mistake.

I honestly think that with Experimental Interface and being able to increase Attack and still get another option Expose will become more useful and will probably see play. I'd rather run Han with Expose, EI and Gunner than Dash with Outrider & HLC.

I probably wouldn't take it to a tournament but I don't think this is a bad use of Expose right now.

Fat Han is questionable - as is anything with C3P0. Losing that defense die means you're not getting the added benefit.

When I say Fat Han, I mean any Han Solo worth 50+ points, not specifically a build that uses C-3PO. C-3PO would still work at R3, where you get and additional dice against primaries. Anyways run him next to Biggs and shove Goldenrod out the airlock. 3PO is over-rated in my opinion. Honestly Lando or Chewie would probably work better anyways. And there's always R2-D2 crew for one more point than 3PO, only way to shut down the trashcan is not shoot the ship carrying him.

Really the only place for expose is Decimator... and even then its dubious.

Really the only place for expose is Decimator... and even then its dubious.

Not once you've played it it isn't.

Really the only place for expose is Decimator... and even then its dubious.

Not once you've played it it isn't.

I've played it. I Don't always run turret ships. But when I do, I run engine.

Really the only place for expose is Decimator... and even then its dubious.

I believe with total conviction that humans were a species worthy of respect both peaches and mint would have been eradicated from the face of the earth... I can't stand the taste or smell of either.

The point is some differences are irreconcilable and that doesn't make either viewpoint correct however. I say that to mitigate what I'm about to say next. It seems clear to me that the perceived failings of Expose are not faulty game design but the failure of the player base to capitalize on the opportunity it presents. Every time someone repeats common knowledge (opinion) my respect for them diminishes accordingly. The players who think outside the box are the ones who have the greatest advantage.

Edited by Duty Remains

The point is some differences are irreconcilable and that doesn't make either viewpoint correct however. I say that to mitigate what I'm about to say next. It seems clear to me that the perceived failings of Expose are not faulty game design but the failure of the player base to capitalize on the opportunity it presents. Every time someone repeats common knowledge (opinion) my respect for them diminishes accordingly. The players who think outside the box are the ones who have the greatest advantage.

If you think there is some outside-the-box use for Expose, then please, share that. If there's a piece of the "common opinion" concerning Expose which you believe is wrong, feel free to present a countercase. I expect most would welcome the discussion.

But taking potshots at the current/previous analysis of Expose is just insulting. Expose did not spring from its plastic clamshell as the worst upgrade of all time. A great deal of careful consideration and analysis went into it. That was back in Wave 2, and it's been kept up-to-date since, considering both improvements and further (if that were possible) detriments. Decimator is a plus. Experimental Interface is a plus. The growth of multiple action abilities is a plus. The introduction of better, cheaper offensive boosts that don't have the same drawback is a negative. Some decent corner cases have emerged - an Experimental Interface Decimator is probably the poster child for it, but even there there's a serious question about whether you'd just be better off with another, cheaper option (Fleet Officer).

It's all interesting discussion, but insulting the common knowledge just because it's the common knowledge is just as shallow as accepting the common knowledge because it's the common knowledge. If I'm going to choose someone to respect concerning Expose, it's going to be the people who've spent the last year and a half crunching numbers and trying to combo it into usefulness with everything that's hit - not someone who blindly idolizes thinking "outside the box" without even bothering to define the box.

I love Expose for its ease of use.

I hate paying 4 points for it.

If Expose didnt cost an action i would use it in most of my builds

but since it does.....posted this before......or something like it

Airen Cracken (19)
Decoy (2)
Ion Pulse Missiles (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

Corran Horn (35)
Expose (4)
Fire-Control System (2)

Knave Squadron Pilot (27)
Fire-Control System (2)
R3-A2 (2)

Total: 100

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I'll let you work out the trick

Corran Horn - Expose, R7-T1, Fire Control System, Experimental Interface (47)

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I already like Expose on Vader

Using Expose on Vader turns him into an X-wing. A 33 point PS9 X-wing.

Using Expose on Vader turns him into an X-wing. A 33 point PS9 X-wing.

A 33 point, PS9 slightly faster X-Wing which can also Barrel Roll, but yeah, still an X-Wing.

Using Expose on Vader turns him into an X-wing. A 33 point PS9 X-wing.

A 33 point, PS9 slightly faster X-Wing which can also Barrel Roll, but yeah, still an X-Wing.

37 points. You forgot Engine Upgrade

37 points if you want to Boost as well (which you will, with Vader), yes.

Have we forgotten anything else? Proton Rockets, maybe? Outmanuever is probably still the better choice on the Dark Lord anyway...

Edited by FTS Gecko

You probably sink at least 4-7 points into wedge anyway (predator/ptl/R2-D2) so that cost on vader isn't really an issue.

A not so common use I like for Expose is on Mauler Mithel. Even then I tend to restrict the use to rounds when he is out of position from enemy fire. 5 dice at range 1 for a TIE is not bad at all.