Can you look at your dial before decloaking? EG. I moved turn right 1. I look at my dial and then declare "decloak left". Is that legal?

Yup. You should inform your opponent you are not revealing the dial but checking it.

Really? I can just look at my dial? I mean, I've always done that, but I kinda felt guilty afterwards. Doesn't really change anything though.

Really? I can just look at my dial?

Yep, the only thing you should do is tell the other person you're double checking the dial. That way they don't think you're about to reveal it, or changing it or something.

You are allowed to check what you put on the dial before you reveal it, so that you can co-ordianate the reveal better. 8 tie dials is 8 maneuvers to remember and 8 ships to remember which had which move.

You must inform your opponent first that you only want to check the dial. No altering/changing of the dial is allowed.

From the FAQ, Competitive Play:

From the FAQ, Competitive Play:

After the Planning phase, if a player wishes to look at one of his dials, he must inform his opponent first. Manipulating dials after the Planning phase will not be tolerated.

I actually think the "Inform your opponent" thing is kind of silly, honestly, aimed at the worst end of the paranoid "Everyone is trying to cheat me!" spectrum. But it is what it is.

Well it prevents people from flipping a dial and saying oh I don't want to do that. Now often that is not the case but it probably has happened before and enough times to warrant such rulings. Now at my league I will be honest and we check our dials often before revealing them and don't officially announce to our opponents. I often do it to make sure I assign the right dial to the right ship and also making sure I don't accidentally reveal the wrong dial (such as an A-wing for an X-wing). Of course we both know each other well enough to know that we don't intentionally try to cheat our opponent out of a win.

Well it prevents people from flipping a dial and saying oh I don't want to do that.

How does it prevent it? If someone doesn't check their dial, they can still be surprised by it. If they do, telling you they're checking it doesn't stop them from claiming surprise or mistake with what is there. Having to tell your opponent you're picking it up doesn't seem to have any bearing on whether they'll be happy with what's there.

The only thing it does is cater to the people who think that any time an opponent is touching their dial they're trying to change the maneuver. Which is honestly silly in itself - if I'm good enough to change my dial without you noticing, me telling you I'm touching my dial won't matter at all.

<shrug> But again, it is what it is, so we deal with it.

If you're about to do a maneuver with same PS pilots and revealing one order would have them bump but the reverse order would not you would want to check to make sure you reveal in the correct order you thought of.

You plan on moving Alpha 1 forward and moving Beta 2 forward then barrel rolling. If you go wrong sequence they might bump and no barrel roll for Beta.

Well it prevents people from flipping a dial and saying oh I don't want to do that.

How does it prevent it? If someone doesn't check their dial, they can still be surprised by it. If they do, telling you they're checking it doesn't stop them from claiming surprise or mistake with what is there. Having to tell your opponent you're picking it up doesn't seem to have any bearing on whether they'll be happy with what's there.

The only thing it does is cater to the people who think that any time an opponent is touching their dial they're trying to change the maneuver. Which is honestly silly in itself - if I'm good enough to change my dial without you noticing, me telling you I'm touching my dial won't matter at all.

<shrug> But again, it is what it is, so we deal with it.

and to tell me you never mistook a dial maneuver and kept it even if it flew you off the table edge?

Now I think the fair rule is that you can check the dial after the planning phase but you cannot change or switch the dial. Thus it is best to ensure that you have every dial assigned to a ship and you give your opponent to do the same. The big thing I would say is to clearly separate what is the planning phase and what is the activation phase.

Now again there can always be a way to try and pull a fast one but if they are that kind of player they would not be resorting to a single method of cheating. It is virtually impossible to make a rule set that no one can break. There will always be those kind of people. Besides it is best to simply NOT play with those kind of people because in the end they want to play a different game besides X-wing, one that I think almost all people here (myself included) would rather not play.

and to tell me you never mistook a dial maneuver and kept it even if it flew you off the table edge?

Now I think the fair rule is that you can check the dial after the planning phase but you cannot change or switch the dial. Thus it is best to ensure that you have every dial assigned to a ship and you give your opponent to do the same. The big thing I would say is to clearly separate what is the planning phase and what is the activation phase.

Now again there can always be a way to try and pull a fast one but if they are that kind of player they would not be resorting to a single method of cheating. It is virtually impossible to make a rule set that no one can break. There will always be those kind of people. Besides it is best to simply NOT play with those kind of people because in the end they want to play a different game besides X-wing, one that I think almost all people here (myself included) would rather not play.

I truly have no idea what you're even talking about here.

The "fair rule" is the rule - after Planning, you can't change the maneuver. Nobody's even brought that up. Nor was there ever any issue with dials not being set. It has absolutely nothing to do with the situation.

The OP asked if you could look at your dial outside Planning. The answer is yes, with the caveat that you have to tell your opponent before you do, presumably so he can carefully watch you to make sure you don't try and change it. I think that having to tell them is a bit silly, and the discussion was entirely around the need to tell them, how it's a least-common-denominator rule that assumes paranoia, and... that's it.

I have no idea how you got where you seem to be.

and to tell me you never mistook a dial maneuver and kept it even if it flew you off the table edge?

Now I think the fair rule is that you can check the dial after the planning phase but you cannot change or switch the dial. Thus it is best to ensure that you have every dial assigned to a ship and you give your opponent to do the same. The big thing I would say is to clearly separate what is the planning phase and what is the activation phase.

Now again there can always be a way to try and pull a fast one but if they are that kind of player they would not be resorting to a single method of cheating. It is virtually impossible to make a rule set that no one can break. There will always be those kind of people. Besides it is best to simply NOT play with those kind of people because in the end they want to play a different game besides X-wing, one that I think almost all people here (myself included) would rather not play.

I truly have no idea what you're even talking about here.

The "fair rule" is the rule - after Planning, you can't change the maneuver. Nobody's even brought that up. Nor was there ever any issue with dials not being set. It has absolutely nothing to do with the situation.

The OP asked if you could look at your dial outside Planning. The answer is yes, with the caveat that you have to tell your opponent before you do, presumably so he can carefully watch you to make sure you don't try and change it. I think that having to tell them is a bit silly, and the discussion was entirely around the need to tell them, how it's a least-common-denominator rule that assumes paranoia, and... that's it.

I have no idea how you got where you seem to be.

I thought you were concern with someone changing their dial in the activation phase. So yeah besides the misunderstanding I think we can both can agree that you can look at the dial in the activation phase but you can only change the dial if you are still in the planning phase.