http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_Corps

Would you allow it? I like the idea, but the size of those things worries me. 9 feet tall would certainly be silhouette 2, wouldn't it? He is open to being "modified." I'm not familiar with these things and just not sure the best way to tackle it.

If you have read through some of my other threads, this is for a game I am running as a first time GM for a handful of personal friends that have never played a pen and paper RPG before.

The background is fine, but yeah, the size is a killer. I'd say he's a later model that's maybe just Wookiee sized, or else an earlier one that was severely damaged and, when rebuilt, was built smaller. Alternatively, retcon the size issue altogether.

The background is fine, but yeah, the size is a killer. I'd say he's a later model that's maybe just Wookiee sized, or else an earlier one that was severely damaged and, when rebuilt, was built smaller. Alternatively, retcon the size issue altogether.

I've considered that.

Say we want to run with that size. Any suggestions on how to handle it? We probably won't, but I'd like to explore all options. Thanks for the suggestions.

Nothing game-breaking about being Silhouette 2. It makes it harder to hit Silhouette 0 target, and gives them an easier time hitting you, so if anything it's a disadvantage.

What's an even bigger disadvantage is that you're a big fraking giant robot walking down Main Street. You're gonna turn heads at best.

What is it with everyone wanting to play killer droids...

Well one issue you're going to have to deal with is that frontline combat Droids are illegal in the Empire, a hold over from the Clone Wars, and one that large is going to stand out. But even if you just ignore that, which is fine, a starting PC just isn't going to have enough EXP to be able to spec something like this out. This may cause some issues with Player expectations.

You could have him have been a salvage piece that was repurposed as a load lifter Droid with most of his combat bits and other enhancements removed. They begin they're PC life by accidentally triggering an old subroutine and "remembering" some of their past. They would build a Droid PC as normal but make him silhouette 2 at a cost of some Obligation revolving around his huge size and potential legal issues. As the PC gain EXP and cash they can add lost abilities and such. Basically they don't start as a fully functional Battle Droid but they can eventually get there as they "fix" themselves over time.

I think one of those droids would work. Presumably he's been modified beyond the base model which would only have had combat related functions.

Just say he's one of the ancient droids which has been heavily modified and rebuilt many times over the millennia, gaining sentience along the way. He still retains some of his combat functionality and his intimidating physique, but has many more generalist functions that have been added over time.

Sil2 seems like an ok thing. its not too big to where entering places will be a problem, certainly no more than a Wookie would have. And enough time has gone by from when Xim the Despot's legions were general knowledge that its not like he'll attract any special attention(beyond being a combat droid) He would of course lack any of the weaponry he originally had. So for outward appearances he's a strange looking loadlifter droid(who happens to have combat software, but nobody's going to tell that by looking at him)

Heavy combat and assassin droids are illegal, but weapons are the only giveaway of something like that. And the Imperials aren't checking the software of every droid they come across.

Nothing game-breaking about being Silhouette 2. It makes it harder to hit Silhouette 0 target, and gives them an easier time hitting you, so if anything it's a disadvantage.

What's an even bigger disadvantage is that you're a big fraking giant robot walking down Main Street. You're gonna turn heads at best.

Mate, I just thought of the amount of problems with the whole droid prejudice thing. It will not just be a matter of "We don't serve their kind in here." this will have people trying to destroy it.

I would say no.

You being a new GM to star wars needs to grasp the fundamentals first , then add twists and alt pc's into your game.

As was said before. These robots have history, the first time an imperial agent sees one of these prepare to be destroyed.

I would say no.

You being a new GM to star wars needs to grasp the fundamentals first , then add twists and alt pc's into your game.

As was said before. These robots have history, the first time an imperial agent sees one of these prepare to be destroyed.

Except this isn't anywhere close to recent history.

This is pre-republic history. I imagine only the most dusty of libraries have any mention of these droids at all. Anyone who did recognize them would only do so if they saw a similarity between the ''decorations'' the hutts use on their avenues.

I would say no.

You being a new GM to star wars needs to grasp the fundamentals first , then add twists and alt pc's into your game.

As was said before. These robots have history, the first time an imperial agent sees one of these prepare to be destroyed.

This isn't really an alt PC though. You don't have to play as one of the listed droids in the book. You could be pretty much any sentient droid you want, and even non-sentient ones if you want to take orders from another PC all the time.

Really, this will be no different than playing any other droid aside from how large it is and any interactions with NPCs I decide to introduce.

And the fact that the droid is like TWENTY-FIVE-FREAKIN'-THOUSAND years old.

I don't think you would have to even go Sil. 2. A speeder Bike is listed as Sil. 2 and 4.5 meters long. You said they are only 9 feet? While very tall, that is only about 2.7 meters. You could probably get away with the upper end of Sil. 1. I think a lot of people are on the money with the "re-purposed" idea, and then allow him to upgrade later. I say go for it!

And the fact that the droid is like TWENTY-FIVE-FREAKIN'-THOUSAND years old.

I'm not sure which point you are making, but if you are trying to say it is too old, tell that to the Yuuzhan Vong. These things activated and annihilated them.

IN my game... no

second reason? Why? The size? That seems to be the only reason someone would want to play one.

Maybe a normal human sized droid (or even wookiee sized droid) that is inspired by the War droids would be better.

IN my game... no

second reason? Why? The size? That seems to be the only reason someone would want to play one.

Maybe a normal human sized droid (or even wookiee sized droid) that is inspired by the War droids would be better.

Why play anything? Why play a droid at all?

Conceptually, I'm not likely to disallow it. I was more thinking from a mechanical standpoint. Regardless, it seems the consensus is there wouldn't be many, if any, issues, even if it were to be bumped to silhouette 2.

And the fact that the droid is like TWENTY-FIVE-FREAKIN'-THOUSAND years old.

I'm not sure which point you are making, but if you are trying to say it is too old, tell that to the Yuuzhan Vong. These things activated and annihilated them.

The point was that nobody is going to recognize this kind of droid.

To anybody its going to just look like a large droid. And 3 meters isn't conspicuously large either. There are plenty of sentient beings that are that height, and a droid that size(in their minds) is going to be a labor droid of some kind.

Only Hutts, or some pathetic book worm with a thing for Xim the Despot, is going to recognize this particular type of droid for what it was. 25,000 years is far too long for a droid like this to have remained even as uncommon knowledge. The only place you could see a working one would be in Hutt space, and as we know most people didn't even realize they were droids till the Hutts activated them to kick the Vong's arses.

And the fact that the droid is like TWENTY-FIVE-FREAKIN'-THOUSAND years old.

I'm not sure which point you are making, but if you are trying to say it is too old, tell that to the Yuuzhan Vong. These things activated and annihilated them.

Well I was mostly just joking.

But the "point" (such as it is) is that there's another way in which playing a droid of this sort would be quite different than playing any other old droid, beyond just its size.

It's akin to, say, a player in a modern-setting game asking to play a neanderthal who's recently been thawed from a glacier. Such a character would be more than just "a normal guy, but hairier". It would be a downright freakish presence.

Mate, I just thought of the amount of problems with the whole droid prejudice thing. It will not just be a matter of "We don't serve their kind in here." this will have people trying to destroy it.

Man, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Imaging all the archaeologists and scholars trying to study him constantly or the eccentric rich collectors trying to buy (or kidnap) him. Or trying to get parts for a 25,000 year old droid? Hell - my Saturn was 10 years out of production and trying to get a part for it was impossible to find anything.

There's so much fun possibilities with this premise!

Mate, I just thought of the amount of problems with the whole droid prejudice thing. It will not just be a matter of "We don't serve their kind in here." this will have people trying to destroy it.

Man, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Imaging all the archaeologists and scholars trying to study him constantly or the eccentric rich collectors trying to buy (or kidnap) him. Or trying to get parts for a 25,000 year old droid? Hell - my Saturn was 10 years out of production and trying to get a part for it was impossible to find anything.

There's so much fun possibilities with this premise!

That's a good point—it's an easy justification for multiple setbacks, or difficulty upgrades, to Mechanics checks on this model.

Setbacks: "I can't find the parts anywhere." OR, "I don't even know where the motor functions access panel is."

Upgrades: 25,000 years is enough for any technology to deteriorate to some degree. OR, "I am unfamiliar with what this wire does..."