But... Death squadron was essentially under his personal command!

He wouldn't be the most unusual commander either. Isn't Mon Mothma in the CR90 pack? As far as I know she was only a political leader and never lead militarily.

True. Mothma is kind of a weird choice as a commander as well. She really was a senator and not a military mind. My only guess is they are trying to get as many OT rebel figures as commanders as they can. Really you only see Madine, Ackbar, and Dodonna as commanders in the OT.

I agree, I would have rather seen raymus Antilles and mothma swapped, with the abilities swapped too. So mothma grants a token, and raymus gets better evades for the fleet. It would make sense as he is the captain of the tantive if I recall correctly

And Rieekan

But... Death squadron was essentially under his personal command!

He wouldn't be the most unusual commander either. Isn't Mon Mothma in the CR90 pack? As far as I know she was only a political leader and never lead militarily.

True. Mothma is kind of a weird choice as a commander as well. She really was a senator and not a military mind. My only guess is they are trying to get as many OT rebel figures as commanders as they can. Really you only see Madine, Ackbar, and Dodonna as commanders in the OT.

Come on, what Politician can resist meddling in things they have absolutely no qualifications for? I do recall a book somewhere where Mothma does take command of a fleet, or maybe it was just one of those, "You can't do the militarily sound thing because of X political reason" (It may have either been a Wraith book or a Thrawn/Hand of Thrawn book)

I would bet on a Borsk Fey'la showing up, especially if a Bothan ship is released

If Borsk Fey'la shows up I'm burning that card into ash. Absolutely hated his character.

... **** he was well written.

Yeah I think it was Dark Force Rising where Han. while he and Lando are discussing Garm bel Iblis' history with the Alliance with Garm's aide, mentions that she once forced Madine and Ackbar to abandon some pet project of theirs because she decided she disliked it. Han also mentions tha he's surprised more groups didn't leave the Alliance for such reasons.

And what led to Garm breaking ties with the Alliance in the first place was her trying to micro manage military affairs really. Her and Bail Organa drew up a plan to hit what they thought was a minor Imperial base but didn't tell Garm about it. Around nine months after the Battle of Yavin Mon Mothma decided it was time to launch the attack, IMO launching an attack based on nine monht old intel is never a good idea. Anyway Garm has intel saying that the base is actually a Imperial Intelligence Ubiqtorate base much larger then Mothma's intel says it is and if he's right the rebellion isn't ready to take it on. Mothma decides to launch the attack as planned and Garm refuses to send his troops on what he feels is a pointless suicide mission. Mothma tells him to get out and he plus many of his supporters walk. The Alliance launches the attack and get soundly defeated.

And Borsk much actually make more sense as a commander then Mothma. We know that he served in some kind of combat role during the Galactic Civil War and him being a commander of some kind during that period wouldn't shock me

I am thinking that we will probably get the Raider sooner or later but what about Lancer (and there is also a Tartan etc)

All those ships are dedicated small anti fighter units, so i guess we might get Raider as more of a picket ship and maby Lancer as dedicated heavy aa platform and thats all. There are too many ships filling the same use.

Sadly, i think due to the Raider existing we will now not be seeing the Lancer. It is on my list to have made by Shapeways if that is the case

Tartan i dont care too much about, and it seems like that ship overlaps both the Carrack and Lancer/Raider in its roles.

The Raider is a small multirole ship mixing both anti-fighter and anti-ship weapons according to the article on it.

The Lancer and Tartan were pure anti fighter platforms. But yeah creating new ships like the Tartans and Assault Frigate Mark IIs instead of using Lancers and Assault Frigate Mark Is was something I found odd about Empire at War.

I think it was a visual thing. personally i like th functional looking ships like the Lancer, but many people find them super-ugly (because they....kind of are. I just dont mind ugly spaceships!)

Yeah the Lancer is a warship not a work of art.

I actually rally like how Lancer looks, it has the Imperial feel to it without beeing a triangle.

If raider functionally turns out to be mroe akin to the corvette lancer might be still possible as dedicated aa ship.

Tartan is pointless (it looks similiar to the carrack and is even called so in some of teh game ifles) and the Carrack itself is pretty ugly, the huge frontal window make it appear morel like a small ship.

I bet we will also get Vindicator heavy cruiser, cost and size similair to gladiator but it will be more long range oriented with blue and red dice and 1 of the variants having 3 squadron value.

The issue with the Issue was that it was yet another steel grey dildo, not to be confused with the other grey dildos such as the Carrack, dreadnaught, bulk cruiser etc

I think the Raider will fill the role of the anti starfighter ship for the Imps, as it better matches the asthetic

The Tartan essentially is the same as the Carrack, just the designers of Empire at War didnt think it looked "sexy" enough, so just made it sleeker and gave it a new name :/

And the weapons array is totally different. Some sources have the Carracks mixing heavy turbos and lasers, others heavy turbos and ions but I've never seen anything giving them pure laser loadouts. I

The Tartan -class design was created for the game Star Wars: Empire at War , where it is shown as a relatively small capital ship, designated as a corvette: its primary strength is in destroying Rebel starfighter squadrons, and it finds itself on relatively equal footing against opposing corvettes, such as the CR90 corvette (with only a slightly greater firepower output), but it was easy prey for Nebulon-B frigates and heavy frigates especially.

The Databank originally listed as the length of the Tartan-class patrol cruiser as 600 meters. A recent post by Leland Chee on the StarWars.com forums updated the length to 250 meters, which is more in-line with the scale found in Star Wars: Empire at War . ^[3]

Leftover descriptors in the Empire at War XML data files indicate that the Tartan -class was intended to be the Carrack -class . ^[7]

from http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tartan-class_patrol_cruiser

I know but when they converted it to Saga they didn't give it any real anti-ship weaponry like the CR90 carries and basically left it as a new form of Lancer.

But... Death squadron was essentially under his personal command!

He wouldn't be the most unusual commander either. Isn't Mon Mothma in the CR90 pack? As far as I know she was only a political leader and never lead militarily.

True. Mothma is kind of a weird choice as a commander as well. She really was a senator and not a military mind. My only guess is they are trying to get as many OT rebel figures as commanders as they can. Really you only see Madine, Ackbar, and Dodonna as commanders in the OT.

Come on, what Politician can resist meddling in things they have absolutely no qualifications for? I do recall a book somewhere where Mothma does take command of a fleet, or maybe it was just one of those, "You can't do the militarily sound thing because of X political reason" (It may have either been a Wraith book or a Thrawn/Hand of Thrawn book)

I would bet on a Borsk Fey'la showing up, especially if a Bothan ship is released

Hah Borsk Fey'la "Many bothans died to lead us right into this trap" he'd have to provide a negative effect for the rebels

Yeah, Fey'la, only got a foothold in the Alliance because he was the sole survivor of the Kothlis cell that had decoded the data gained by the rebels from the Suprosa, he was negotiating a price for the intel with the Executor, bearing down on him. As seen in X-wing: Alliance.

There was one decent Bothan, Tray'st Kiefry or something? He was cool. Wedged approved so I approve.

I liked Asyr Sei'lar until her final appearance in the X-Wing novels where she showed that she was actually far more cold blooded and heartless then she had appeared

But in a good way

Frak you Borsk Fey'la!

I liked Asyr Sei'lar until her final appearance in the X-Wing novels where she showed that she was actually far more cold blooded and heartless then she had appeared

cold-blooded and heartless is the only reaction anyone should have to Fey'lya's shenanigans.

There's that Bothan who lead the first attack on Blackmoon in the first XW book, he mocked Wedge for not keeping his people alive and I gasped in horror.

Remember when Gavin punched a Bothan? I felt like millions of voices suddenly cried out in satisfaction...

I liked Asyr Sei'lar until her final appearance in the X-Wing novels where she showed that she was actually far more cold blooded and heartless then she had appeared

cold-blooded and heartless is the only reaction anyone should have to Fey'lya's shenanigans.

If she had actually cared for him at all there is no way in hell she would have even considered doing that.

Fey'lya is one of my least favorite characters in science fiction to the point I cheered when I read his death scene (Fortunately my parents were out for a romantic dinner at the time so I didn't have to explain what was going on)

^{He is quite universally hated. They did a great job writing him in that regard.}

^{I call it "The Joffrey Effect".}