Well why not.

Imperials

Interdictor-Class Star Destroyer

Imperial Class Star Destroyer

Tartan-class patrol cruiser

Rebels

MC30c Frigate

MC80 Liberty type Star Cruiser

DP20 frigate

Mayber a Broadside-class cruiser kdb-1 for both sides

What do you think?

Probably closer to two ships on each side, but I guess those ships are as likely as any others.

Lol.

No, really, Lol.

Wave 2 Speculation? Really?

Can we get our hands on the core set, and then Wave 1, before we even think of Wave 2? What if the game is a dud and doesn't sell. FFG may not even make any more waves.

Lol.

No, really, Lol.

Wave 2 Speculation? Really?

Can we get our hands on the core set, and then Wave 1, before we even think of Wave 2? What if the game is a dud and doesn't sell. FFG may not even make any more waves.

Seems a bit negative. I dont expect the game to bomb at all and because we allready know what wave one is I dont see why we should not be able to talk about what ships we might see. But then again I suppose speculation is a bit silly because they have allready planned their waves, but it does give us something to talk about and pictures of cool ships.

Lol.

No, really, Lol.

Wave 2 Speculation? Really?

Can we get our hands on the core set, and then Wave 1, before we even think of Wave 2? What if the game is a dud and doesn't sell. FFG may not even make any more waves.

Hey, they haven't given us much else to talk about.

I truly don't mean to rain on anyone's parade ... 'speculate away !

I just find it mildly amusing how this, X-Wing, and Imperial Assault forums play out. Most posters are never happy with what they currently have, they spend most of their energy what-if-ing to death things they know little or nothing about.

I agree entirely. I find it sometimes quite comical reading the wild speculations. Especially when they do a preview of a fan of upgrade or pilot cards and there's now way you can decipher any of the blurry text from the photo. But there's always the dreamers that kick off a thread or two with " I'm sure it says 'If you do this then you can do that...' ".

I'm thinking, " REALLY?!? You got all that from a dozen blurry pixels in tight formation?!? "

Do I need to get my eyes checked?

Speculating on models is a little different, but sometimes just as "wild". Like the ridiculous " I think there will definitely be a Star Destroyer in X-Wing " posts. Why? Because it makes complete sense to add a capital ship to a dogfighting game, even though it's 100 times bigger that the starfighters? Yeah, that makes so much sense.

As for the Wave 2 speculation. I think we'll see an Imperial and an MC80 at some stage. I just have a funny feeling they're going to make us wait a bit longer for those. I was surprised to see the Gladiator and the Assault Frigate, as I had never seen a Gladiator before and I don't recall seeing the Assault Frigate in the movies either. Unless it was in one of the fleet shots and I missed it. I'm wondering if Disney has locked up a few of the iconic ships. I sure hope not. I don't want to invest in Armada if the future Waves are going to unheard of obscure ships. It would lose the Star Wars appeal and flavour real quick.

Well why not.

Imperials

Interdictor-Class Star Destroyer

Imperial Class Star Destroyer

Tartan-class patrol cruiser

Rebels

MC30c Frigate

MC80 Liberty type Star Cruiser

DP20 frigate

Mayber a Broadside-class cruiser kdb-1 for both sides

What do you think?

I'm not sure about getting any of the Interdictors until at least Wave three. I could see the Broadside or Vigil in its place (The Broadside is a heavily modified Gladiator and I doubt we will get one for both sides without the other) We might get the Lancer instead of the Tartan as well

I agree entirely. I find it sometimes quite comical reading the wild speculations. Especially when they do a preview of a fan of upgrade or pilot cards and there's now way you can decipher any of the blurry text from the photo. But there's always the dreamers that kick off a thread or two with " I'm sure it says 'If you do this then you can do that...' ".

I'm thinking, " REALLY?!? You got all that from a dozen blurry pixels in tight formation?!? "

Do I need to get my eyes checked?

Speculating on models is a little different, but sometimes just as "wild". Like the ridiculous " I think there will definitely be a Star Destroyer in X-Wing " posts. Why? Because it makes complete sense to add a capital ship to a dogfighting game, even though it's 100 times bigger that the starfighters? Yeah, that makes so much sense.

As for the Wave 2 speculation. I think we'll see an Imperial and an MC80 at some stage. I just have a funny feeling they're going to make us wait a bit longer for those. I was surprised to see the Gladiator and the Assault Frigate, as I had never seen a Gladiator before and I don't recall seeing the Assault Frigate in the movies either. Unless it was in one of the fleet shots and I missed it. I'm wondering if Disney has locked up a few of the iconic ships. I sure hope not. I don't want to invest in Armada if the future Waves are going to unheard of obscure ships. It would lose the Star Wars appeal and flavour real quick.

The Gladiator class is from the old Droids Cartoon. It also appeared in the Force Unleashed II and Saga RPG.

The Assault Frigate Mark II is from the Empire at War PC game and Saga RPG. I don't know why they didn't go with the Assault Frigate Mark I which is more common in setting, and has appeared in may more places. Of course I don't know why the creators of Empire at War created the Assault Frigate Mark II rather then just use the Mark I given that the differences between them are the Mark II having a slightly smaller crew, slightly more powerful weapons.(Its lightest weapons do 1D10 x 5 more damage then their counterparts on the Mark I in Saga) and faster recharging shields

The Lancer is a pretty safe bet at some stage, I think, as it's supposed to be good for Anti-starfighter defence. And I don't think the Empire is going to be an "all big ships" fleet. It would be interesting to be able to go toe-to-toe with light cruisers and frigates on both sides, and not have to worry about a Star Destroyer becoming a laser magnet.

I'd seen the Assault Frigate in Empire at War, but haven't seen the Droids cartoon or Force Unleashed II. I still thought it was an unusual choice for an early release, though.

I think given the limited scope of the weapons within Armada, you may find the Assault Frigate model will come with cards for Mark I and Mark II versions, much like the Victory has. The safe option for any future ship is to be able to use one model for two or more variants of the class, thus adding some flexibility to fleet building. Much the same way X-Wing has multiple pilots for the same ships.

The Interdictor and Vindicator share the same hull, so there might be some commonality with a model release there. Although the victory conditions seem to require destruction of the opponent, so an escape to hyperspace may not be an option, which could nullify the requirement for the Interdictor model altogether. I'd still love to have one though.

That's possible though the Assault Frigate Mark I and Mark II sharing the same model would be weird because the differences in shape are much larger then the differences in equipment and abilities IMO. And if they got that route then the Broadside will almost certainly be paired with Gladiator since they use the same Hull frame.

Also just because the objective in the demo was to wipe out the enemy capital ships doesn't mean that there won't be alternate objectives included later on.

Yeah, just looked at the Mark I on wookiepedia. That's the Dreadnaught rehash/refit from the Rebellion game. Half Dreadnaught and half Nebulon looking. A real ugly hybrid.

I'd like to see a Mon Calamari cruiser of some sort. Those things just look cool.

Besides an Imperial Star Destroyer, I just really want a Dreadnought. Well maybe more than one....

Yeah, just looked at the Mark I on wookiepedia. That's the Dreadnaught rehash/refit from the Rebellion game. Half Dreadnaught and half Nebulon looking. A real ugly hybrid.

Yeah that's it though it was around long before appearing in Rebellion. It was in both editions of WEG's Rebel Alliance sourcebook and several novels before Rebellion came out.

there's now way you can decipher any of the blurry text from the photo. But there's always the dreamers that kick off a thread or two with " I'm sure it says 'If you do this then you can do that...' ".

I'm thinking, " REALLY?!? You got all that from a dozen blurry pixels in tight formation?!? "

Do I need to get my eyes checked?

People called the new Y-wing title just fine. Reading the fan's really hard but there's plenty of software that can enhance images to the point of legibility.

As for the Wave 2 speculation. I think we'll see an Imperial and an MC80 at some stage. I just have a funny feeling they're going to make us wait a bit longer for those. I was surprised to see the Gladiator and the Assault Frigate, as I had never seen a Gladiator before and I don't recall seeing the Assault Frigate in the movies either. Unless it was in one of the fleet shots and I missed it. I'm wondering if Disney has locked up a few of the iconic ships. I sure hope not. I don't want to invest in Armada if the future Waves are going to unheard of obscure ships. It would lose the Star Wars appeal and flavour real quick.

They really only show like half a dozen capital ships in the OT. If they used them all in Wave 1, we really wouldn't have much to look forward to that ties back to the movies. They have to dig into the EU and video games to have any real content.

I fully expected EU ships. I just wasn't expecting something quite as obscure so soon. There's a host of other ships that could have come first. I guess the primary requisite would be something that has appeared in more than one publication of something.

Honestly I was expecting a Strike, maybe a Carrack in the Gladiator slot and was expecting to see the Assault Frigate Mark I long before the Mark II. Maybe they'll do something like the RPG designers do where we can ask questions and find out why these ships were selected.

Lancer Class Cruiser - 90% chance of being produced (great for Star fighter control)

Star Class Frigate - maybe <40% chance of being produced at best.

What's a Star class Frigate in Star Wars? I usually keep up to date on new capital ship models, especially the Frigates which are my favorite subtype of capital ship but I don't recall that one. Are you meaning the Munificent class Star Frigates from Revenge of the Sith and The Clone Wars, or maybe the Starbolt-class Assault Carrier, which is also a Frigate class according to the stats, from the RPG?

What's a Star class Frigate in Star Wars? I usually keep up to date on new capital ship models, especially the Frigates which are my favorite subtype of capital ship but I don't recall that one.

Imperial Class Star Frigate

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_II-class_frigate

A notable vessel of this class was the Rand Ecliptic , used as a first mission-assignment for Biggs Darklighter at some point before the events of the Battle of Yavin . She was hijacked by some of its crew, after they found the Empire's methods and corrupt military culture unbearable and defected to the Rebel cause.

Sometimes misnammed a "pocket Star Destroyer".

Oh that one. I really hope that class doesn't so up unless they do massive stat editing. IMO as it stands that class is drastically overgunned for its size, and its fighter compliment is absurd for its size as well. And the crew compliment is utterly insane, it has an almost 25 percent higher number of personnel in its. standard crew then a Dreadnaught-class Heavy Cruiser, a class noted for having a very large crew requirement for its size, while being only two thirds the length. And I know its hyperdrive is slow as molasses for its time but that really doesn't compensate for its power level to other ships of its type and era IMO.

I also ope they rename the class. Seriously would it have really been that hard to come up with a class name not already in use by the same military and shipwright in the same era?

Well if Wave 1's size release is any guide I'd say an ISD I/II for sure. Then I'd say a Dreadnought, simply because FFG would be remiss to release one when they're such a staple of the universe and the Rebellion had problems fielding them. Then a Carrack/Lancer. That covers Large/Medium/Small ship sizes for Imperials

Rebels will get MC80 and MC40 (MC30 can gtfo) and the DP20.

Interdictor for me causes a problem for how they'd represent it in game. There's simply no mechanic for Hyperspace travel that we've seen so far, and without highly specialized scenarios im not sure how useful the I418 will be. Traditionally they were very weak in shields, guns, and fighters. I mean Rogue Squadron drove off/savaged every single one they came across with a salvo or two or torpedoes every time in the books. I just don't see them being viable even on the objectives we've seen so far. However, if they were able to use the gravity projectors to affect terrain and or other ships in some fashion i could see them being useful. Not sure how far down that route FFG wants to got though.

Im just dreading when/if they release Strike Cruisers. Nightmares of "Core Ship Packs" with "Modular Configuration Booster Packs" are running wild through my mind. I'd buy like 6 of them mind you, i just would be weeping and gnashing my teeth the whole way.

I would prefer the MC30C over the MC40A though I would love it if both appeared. Out of curiosity sake what hates you dislike the 30Cs?

I imagine the Strikes will be handled like like the Victories buy one model for the hull and you get all stat cards for the possible configurations then pick the one you want to use.

I played Imperials heavily in Star Wars: Empire at War Forces of Corruption, and MC-30's can go !#%& themselves. Torpedo spam for days made me butt hurt. And those cluster bombs!

But seriously, the ship is a rather silly idea. The Rebellion never had the resources to make a ship that was ordinance heavy. They had a hard enough time keeping torpedoes available for their fighter craft, and a large part of their doctrine relied on the so called "Trench Run Disease" as the Imperial battle plan then didn't take snubfighters as a serious threat to their capital ships. Its the same reason the Rebellion didn't field many Victory class Mk 1's as they couldn't keep their missile batteries supplied. Besides, any capital ship turbolasers would have far outranged the torpedoes making the MC-30's sitting ducks before they could deliver their payloads.

The ship is a cool idea but not even remotely sound in practice. Too expensive and too vulnerable for the Rebellion to field.

As far as the Strike Cruisers go i know thats how they'll handle it, but a small part of me wants to be able to field the ships with all the different hull attachments. >_<

Yeah I usually play the Rebels in EAW and FOC so I do the torp spamming rather then receive it.

While I understand your point about torp supplies I seriously doubt the fighters and the MC30Cs were using the same Torpedo models.

IMO its possible that the MC30C was specifically designed to use Capital grade torpedoes because the Alliance either had seized a large stockpile of such weapons, had seized equipment to manufacture them, or both but had a shortage of ships designed to use them.

We also know that many Mon Calamari ships were designed for exploration. Its possible that whatever design the MC30C class was modified from, if there was a predecessor, was equipped with a heavy probe launching capability and when converting it into a warship the designers decided that replacing them with Torpedo launchers would be faster and easier then redesigning the vessel to either remove them or replace them with other weapons.