Scum ships in Empire and Rebel Factions, also?

By eagletsi111, in X-Wing

How many would like to see SCUM ship be used in Empire and Rebel Factions Also?

Perhaps a Title Card like "Highest Bidder", Unique. 2 Points. One Scum ship may be used in a Rebel or Empire Army.

What does everyone think? Sounds very cool, and could sell alot more scum ships for sure,

Thanks,

Edited by eagletsi111

Interesting idea, is there a scum ship you see working really well with the Rebs/Imps? If you're playing a casual game you can just mix factions if your opponent agrees to it.

That's a cool idea for a title card. It's hard to imagine it being overpowered since 2 points for another faction's ship is a steep cost.

It would be a shame if ffg missed an opportunity to add some pilots to scumy ships already in play.

Maybe one new pilot per ship that can be taken by both factions... I don't expect it though would start to get very strange in that most wanted box.

No. The factions need to be as separate as possible. Sharing ships to bring Scum up to par is bad enough.

I think it would be cool, but I find it as a balance nightmare. Trying to figure out all the synergy combinations would be nuts and possibly prevent flexibility of future expansions.

I'm all for this in friendly games. Do whatever you want and have a blast! Unfortunately I can't recommend this for an official card because of the competitive implications. I'm even sad writing this...

At some point I would like to see a unique "mercenary" title that allows a generic pilot from the Scum faction be used as part of another faction's squad.

I have thought about this... but I'll be frank in saying that I'd prefer the factions be more separate from here on out. While I like that I can still cross-faction upgrade cards (aside from Salvaged Astromechs and Illicit slots) I would prefer the factions have their own distinct flavours. The only one I can see being in this boat would be maybe the V-Wing or Arc-170, but that would put it in a weird spot, since Imperials don't have astromechs at all.

How would you prupose to handly "[Rebel/Imperium/Scum] only" cards then? Current ruling is that they can only be used by squads that are of a single faction...

No. The factions need to be as separate as possible. Sharing ships to bring Scum up to par is bad enough.

For fluff reasons I disagree with this. Many space pirates used Y-wings and Z-95s. The firespray and HWK make sense. Heck the YT series ships should be allowed as scum.

I understand that, and I understand why it happened. I do want to fly the ESB Bounty Hunters together. But that doesn't change the fact that I'm annoyed that the Firespray isn't unique to the Imperials anymore.

I am all about additional options, so long as balance is attuned to. In that regard, I prefer the idea of making it an upgrade that takes a useable slot away (like Chadraan Refit) rather than making it a Title. The imbalances are going to come when those ships start getting crazy access to upgrades that they normally wouldn't.

Edited by klecser

I understand that, and I understand why it happened. I do want to fly the ESB Bounty Hunters together. But that doesn't change the fact that I'm annoyed that the Firespray isn't unique to the Imperials anymore.

I'm actually more annoyed that it was Imperial in the first place...

How would you prupose to handly "[Rebel/Imperium/Scum] only" cards then? Current ruling is that they can only be used by squads that are of a single faction...

I'd use one of those cards that introduces new rules (like the ones for ion weapons and bombs) that just explains how to handle it. I don't know what the exact wording should be, but it shouldn't be hard to figure out how it works. When you're building your squad with a mercenary, it's treated as Scum. When play begins, it's treated as the same faction as the rest of your squad. You might even be able to fit the complete instructions on the upgrade card itself.

Edited by DagobahDave

I wouldn't mind a rule allowing mixing merc scum - but they are disallowed from being modified by any non scum cards and visa versa.

Example: Scum Boba Fett and Biggs are flying within range 1. Soontir has eyes on both, and can shoot Boba.

Example 2. Boba has swarm tactics. He can't give Biggs PS9.

Edit: I massacred grammar.

Edited by DariusAPB