By the book

By Cim2, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

Does Roland Banks ability work in the Final Battle Upkeep phase? It doesn't say it doesn't, and against most Ancient Ones it's not a major thing but does give a little bit of extra power. Nyarlathotep, on the other hand, is completely unable to kill Roland provided that Roland starts the battle with at least one clue. (I know, Epic Battle, but I don't have Kingsport yet)

It should also be mentioned that this makes him a valuable asset against the older GOOs that require a skill check or be attacked. When the modifiers get to a point where you are guaranteed to fail, Roland will always have 1 die to throw.

Acebob said:

It should also be mentioned that this makes him a valuable asset against the older GOOs that require a skill check or be attacked. When the modifiers get to a point where you are guaranteed to fail, Roland will always have 1 die to throw.

Hmm. I never thought about that. But also, the check to protect against Yibb-Tstll never gets more difficult. I guess Epic Battle is the final decider of an indefinite battle, eh?

What about his Expense Account? I just lost a Final Battle unsure of whether or not Roland could reload his .357.

(I may have already been shut down once when I asked this about Jenny.)

Well, I was gonna lose anyway. Zhar may be pretty quiet during the game, but if he wakes up, it's like fighting a mini-Shub and a mini-Yog in succession with only 8 rounds in which to do it. I was so not ready for that, one stupid gun wasn't gonna make much difference (apologies to Inspector Callahan).

Well, nobody can receive money during final combat, officially. But a good point was brought up about final battle against Nyarlathotep if you can just continue to receive a clue. It would only end at End of Everything .

Tibs said:

Well, nobody can receive money during final combat, officially. But a good point was brought up about final battle against Nyarlathotep if you can just continue to receive a clue. It would only end at End of Everything .

Not true. Bank loans and retainers are discarded. I don't think there's anywhere in the rules that says anything about not being able to receive money?

Avi_dreader said:

Tibs said:

Well, nobody can receive money during final combat, officially. But a good point was brought up about final battle against Nyarlathotep if you can just continue to receive a clue. It would only end at End of Everything .

Not true. Bank loans and retainers are discarded. I don't think there's anywhere in the rules that says anything about not being able to receive money?

Yeah, it's a real rule. Investigators no longer receive money during Final Combat. I don't remember if it's in the booklet, or if it's on the FAQ. But that rule always stood out to me, because originally it didn't matter at all; then "reloadable" weapons came along.

I agree with Tibs. At work and don't want to download the rulebook(s) to work comps, so can't verify, but I recall that rule myself. Realistically, Jenny Barnes or whoever should have enough money to reload the weapons, especially since you can trade stuff.

Ehhhh, I semi-believe you guys :') Give me a quote though.

Avi_dreader said:

Ehhhh, I semi-believe you guys :') Give me a quote though.

P. 22:

"Additionally, once the
final battle begins, investigators should no longer collect
money or roll for Retainers or Bank Loans."

Avi just got served cool.gif !

Dam said:

Avi_dreader said:

Ehhhh, I semi-believe you guys :') Give me a quote though.

P. 22:

"Additionally, once the
final battle begins, investigators should no longer collect
money or roll for Retainers or Bank Loans."

Avi just got served cool.gif !

I would believe it, but coming from you, I can't trust a single word ;'D

It's true, Avi, it's true.

Knuckles Eki said:

It's true, Avi, it's true.

Don't believe it, Dam probably snuck into your room and changed your instruction manual. He's like that. A sneaky bastard ;') he did it to Tibs too, no doubt.

But there's nothing that says you can't trade money, so at the very least you could just mass up the remaining money on the investigators that need it for reloading.

Avi_dreader said:

Don't believe it, Dam probably snuck into your room and changed your instruction manual. He's like that. A sneaky bastard ;') he did it to Tibs too, no doubt.

Yeah, my Speed/Sneak slider is 3/4 when Speed is maxed gran_risa.gif .

Yeah I can just see it now. *After firing off my elephant gun* "Um be right back Mr. GOO, I need to go get another bullet". Great Outer One sits and waits...but the soul never returned. lol *I get in my spaceship and take off to my secret base on the Moon.*

Heh anyways I say no for reload weapons. It make no sense to allow reloading of flamethrower or elephant gun in the middle of a fight with a monster the size of a mountain (in cthulhu's case). As Deadpool would tell you "should have brought more pouches". aplauso.gif

But as stated, if another person wants to lend you money to turn into ammo then they can (makes sense right?...of course...everything makes sense in Arkham) Other than that you can't get anymore money for ammo.

Avi_dreader said:

Knuckles Eki said:

It's true, Avi, it's true.

Don't believe it, Dam probably snuck into your room and changed your instruction manual. He's like that. A sneaky bastard ;') he did it to Tibs too, no doubt.

The joke's on you! He and I are actually both Zhar, the Twin Obscenities! So we were already one being all along.

Tibs said:

Avi_dreader said:

Knuckles Eki said:

It's true, Avi, it's true.

Don't believe it, Dam probably snuck into your room and changed your instruction manual. He's like that. A sneaky bastard ;') he did it to Tibs too, no doubt.

The joke's on you! He and I are actually both Zhar, the Twin Obscenities! So we were already one being all along.

ZHAAAAAAAR! ::Shakes fist at heavens::

darkkami said:

Heh anyways I say no for reload weapons. It make no sense to allow reloading of flamethrower or elephant gun in the middle of a fight with a monster the size of a mountain (in cthulhu's case). As Deadpool would tell you "should have brought more pouches". aplauso.gif

But, in between combat rounds, it's reasonable for Carolyn to chant, "Go to your happy place!" enough to gain a Sanity while facing "a monster the size of a mountain"? gran_risa.gif

P. 22: "Additionally, once the final battle begins, investigators should no longer collect money or roll for Retainers or Bank Loans."

Basically, I want a recount. This rule was printed in an unalterable manual at least 18 months before any weapon required money as a resource. And unfortunately, any manual printed AFTER those cards were available contains a FAQ that was printed at least a year before any weapon required money as a resource. I'm not saying Al Gore won't still lose, but I want to SEE IT in a FAQ.

No, I'm fine with not collecting money. The useability of your reload weapons is limited by the cash you have on hand.

Either...

  • GG Narla but you loss :P
  • No clue 4 u mr. FBI
  • must Epic Battle!

I didn't change Mis Chang because of Yig so won't do the same for Roland but Lily must Epic battle Snake AO so Roland must do the same vs. 1,000 Mask God! demonio.gif

pssst... sale your Organs to buy KH you don't need two kidneys.