A vong as a full faction (whether you like them or not) wouldn't work. There simply weren't enough variety in vessels, not to mention pilots of note.
Now if they were released as a mini-faction boxed set, that could work. A set with enough ships and upgrades that can make a variety of 100 point builds could work.
A series of mini-faction boxed could be neat. That way we could get Happa, chiss, ssi-ruuk ships without trying to force them into another faction.
What's the point of mini-factions? They essentially become one and done, and then forgotten for the new stuff. It's a waste of development time. Scum already is going to force them to move to 3 ships per wave, one for each faction, just to prevent one faction from being left behind.
Scum already is going to force them to move to 3 ships per wave, one for each faction, just to prevent one faction from being left behind.
I know my wallet wouldn't mind 3 per wave... Especially if one of them is something I can skip on. I'll get some of wave 6 but I'm not getting all of it.
But this also assumes that they feel the need to keep a faction from falling behind which may or may not be true. There are more large ships in the Empire then Rebels for example. So they don't seem to feel the need to keep everything completely even.
Who knows they may even start producing faction waves, wave 7 being Imperial, wave 8 being Rebel and 9 being back to S&V.
But back to the OP. No I don't think we'll see it because of the time line issues, they take place far outside the Civil War era, plus almost a given that they are no longer Canon in the first place.
No.
To elaborate on my previous post. The Vong aren't so much a bad concept as something that REALLY doesn't fit well into the Star Wars universe. The whole being immune to the force, biological technology and so on just make them 'not Star Wars'. A similar race in 40K or even Star Trek would probably be fine, but not Star Wars. (in fact, didn't Voyager HAVE a similar species?)
That, coupled with the fact that those books were not particularly well written (not particularly bad, either, just meh) and that by then they had advanced the timeline so much that it strained credibility made the whole endeavor... unpalatable.
There will, of course, be those who disagree,
Also they are called the "Vong" that is all I need to know to not like them.
I personally loved the Vong war arc and the Vong in general, as do many others (just not on this forum apparently). That being said, they will probably not be a fourth faction, simply because of two reasons:
1) there isn't enough unit diversity to supply a faction
2) the majority of people who seem to play this game are not fans of the EU; thus it wouldn't make sense from a marketing standpoint.
Revanchist, I concur.
I LOVE the Vong race and their stories.
I would enjoy playing as their ships. Many people who play this game tend to hate ANYTHING that is EU because they deem themselves as "purists" or whatever but that is their prerogative.
I agree that there aren't enough ship types to make up an entire faction, on the scale that the two main ones are now BUT if they were introduced as a small faction for scenario or pick up play (EVEN dogfight tournament play, the players would just have fewer ships to choose from), I think they would work well. FFG does a good job of balancing out aspects of their game so I have faith they could make the ship cohesion to each other and a few other things just fine.
personal thoughts.
*loves the Vong story archs*
*thinks han solo and his era is over rated and hyped with little depth and character development to the characters-they stay the same*
*references my account name to re-state that I love the vong storyline and their interactions in the SW universe*
I'd say no- they just don't really fit in the Star Ware style. Biological ships just don't have the same impact in my opinion. For a new faction I think they could go with "Independent Systems" such as the Hapians, Corporate Sector, Corellian Security, the Hutt worlds...
Now Thrawn...I'd love for Thrawn to be the head of what ever is Imperial in the new movies. Really, really good villian.
"Independent Systems"...that what I was shooting for. Just couldn't get it out.
I would love to see the Vong and anything they think is missing could be added in... Such as "This corral skipper is slightly larger making it a bomber analog" and so on!
This is a very rich part of the EU where you actually got to see a lot of growth from some stagnate characters and some heat breaking moments I’ll even admit I put the series down after they killed a loved character (Man that even made me cry a bit…)
If it’s the Bio thing that throwing you off let me ask you this, Would you like to see the Sith Mediation Sphere show up?
If concept art is to be believed (as well as just simple logic) - Disney is undoing the death of said character which should also, in general, undo the Vong (thank goodness imho)
If it’s the Bio thing that throwing you off let me ask you this, Would you like to see the Sith Mediation Sphere show up?
Don't know what that is, but boy does it sound dumb.
This is a very rich part of the EU where you actually got to see a lot of growth from some stagnate characters and some heat breaking moments
Character development and moving moments doesn't mean it's suitable to this game.
There's a number of issues with the Vong that make them unsuitable to the game.
Lack of ships, because IMO "this one is a big bigger but identical in every other way" isn't going to cut it.
Very likely not canon, due to the movies.
Outside the time line X-Wing focuses on.
I'd love to see the vong as a new faction. 
This thread made me chuckle, and reminisce ... why, it was only just a few months ago when it was a virtual CERTAINTY (according to most members on this forum) that we would NEVER EVER EVER have a 3rd faction.
They are not saying no to a 4th faction but to vong, apples and oranges.
This is a very rich part of the EU where you actually got to see a lot of growth from some stagnate characters and some heat breaking moments
Character development and moving moments doesn't mean it's suitable to this game.
There's a number of issues with the Vong that make them unsuitable to the game.
Lack of ships, because IMO "this one is a big bigger but identical in every other way" isn't going to cut it.
Very likely not canon, due to the movies.
Outside the time line X-Wing focuses on.
Yup. I love the NJO and the Vong. And I agree that there is not nearly enough content to justify a faction.
This thread made me chuckle, and reminisce ... why, it was only just a few months ago when it was a virtual CERTAINTY (according to most members on this forum) that we would NEVER EVER EVER have a 3rd faction.
They are not saying no to a 4th faction but to vong, apples and oranges.
Not really.
People who participate on this forum are very passionate about their beliefs as it pertains to Star Wars. Quite frankly, this is a good thing, and makes playing these games, and interacting with others an enjoyable experience. While I may not always agree with everything stated, I find it stimulating to debate various aspects and positions that are taken.
And fortunately, for the most part, those who participate in this forum do so in a positive manner, without too much flaming, abuse, etc.
Nevertheless, it is always amusing to me to read any stance that suggests something will never happen, when that position is generally taken because they hope it won't as oppose to having specific insider knowledge.
Edited by any2cardsThis is a very rich part of the EU where you actually got to see a lot of growth from some stagnate characters and some heat breaking moments
Character development and moving moments doesn't mean it's suitable to this game.
There's a number of issues with the Vong that make them unsuitable to the game.
Lack of ships, because IMO "this one is a big bigger but identical in every other way" isn't going to cut it.
Very likely not canon, due to the movies.
Outside the time line X-Wing focuses on.
Yea this is what I think, I love the Vong, and NJO, it broke the dull repeating cycle of sith take over galaxy and eventually get deposed, etc., but they are outside the timeline, and just don't have enough ships to make the cut for the game, I'd much rather see Chiss or the Empire of the Hand as the 4th faction.
Ssi-Ruuk?
Not sure about the diversity of the ships. been a LONG time since I read that book.
I was going to just post NO! But the first poster did that.
instead.
No.
I've never read any EU with the Vong but everything see and read about them sounds terrible. They seem to but just as universally hated as Jar Jar, it would be a marketing disaster for FFG.
To elaborate on my previous post. The Vong aren't so much a bad concept as something that REALLY doesn't fit well into the Star Wars universe. The whole being immune to the force, biological technology and so on just make them 'not Star Wars'. A similar race in 40K or even Star Trek would probably be fine, but not Star Wars. (in fact, didn't Voyager HAVE a similar species?)
That, coupled with the fact that those books were not particularly well written (not particularly bad, either, just meh) and that by then they had advanced the timeline so much that it strained credibility made the whole endeavor... unpalatable.
There will, of course, be those who disagree,
If it makes any diffrence too you, they do end up showing they are not immune to the force, the one pulling the strings behind the scenes is a Vong that controls the rest of the Vong with the force. Also dark side powers. Seem to not have problems hurting Vong. Lastly there was some light side powers that also effected Vong before my first example was revealed.
Also going by what a writer said the fine details of NJO maybe noncanon now BUT the overal event or elements of it probably are. IN the new timeline Sidious plan for dealing with the Vong may not have been as hampered. By the Rebs like in the orignal time line so this time the Vong got pawned, maybe by World Devestators... XD
Anyway they could fit in this game if there faction is given a lot of unique rules, kinda like the S&V. They did something simular in BFG with tyranids and dark eldar, both had few ships, DE only had two, BUT they had many many upgrade otions for there ships. Besides having completly diffrent upgrades weapon cards such and such they could also naturally be allowed 2-4 upgrades per ship.
