Alternate rule: Vehicular scale

By Rakaydos, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

I dont really like how heavy personal scale weapons interact with vehicals and starships, and vice versa- there is too big a leap between the Eweb that takes three people to set up, and the autoblaster you can mount on a swoopbike. This change also incidently addresses the "Paper starfigters" rule, as an artifact of the rescaling.

Vehicular rescaling: Each point of damage done by a vehicular weapon to a personal scale target is worth 5 personal scale damage... not 10, as written. Likewise, each point of Armor and Hull takes 5 wounds to pierce or harm. To compensate for this, double all vehicals Wound and Strain thresholds from as written, but leave Armor values the same. Breach 1 now penetrates 2 armor, or 10 Soak.

Now, a vehicular autoblaster -is- basically an Eweb, though successes scale better with the vehcal weapon. A starship laser cannon does 25 to 35 wounds, enough to take out all but the most heavilly armored personal scale target... but not the 60 or so it otherwise would.

Likewise, a squad of snowtroopers shooting an Eweb (damage 15) at the Falcon (armor 3) stand a chance of actually doing something, however unlikely- they brought that weapon into Echo Base for a reason after all.

Doubling the hull and system strain is aimed mostly at the smaller vehicals, like swoops, that were designed to be killable with personal scale weapons despite the scale differerence- doubling the hull cancels the effective doubling of damage- though the "breakthrough daamage" drops significntly. Strain is doubled because of ion weapons, but it also means fragile craft can pull a few more maneuvers before falling apart.

While intended for small scale vehicals, this change has an interesting effect on starfghter combat. Effectively, weapons have beeen nerfed to half their original killing power, and system strain thresholds are higher, leading to longer, more active combats.

Is there anything I'm missing? What are your thoughts on this rule?

I agree I think x10 is a bit to much for scale. But then again, if you look at the RAW, as soon as you hop on a vehicle, a single range band will prevent you from using hand weapons.

But i think the solution lies in the Silhouette being used as a scaling system similar to how it worked in the WEG system. You shouldn't be able to damage a Capital ship with semi-portable weapon with a few points of breach

I hate to be this guy, but this conversation comes up all the time. Please do a forum search to see if a thread on a topic has already come up before cluttering the forum by creating a new one. Seriously, there's another thread on the vehicle damage/scale topic still on the first page of this forum...

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/123191-damage-to-vehicles-and-scale/page-2

So no comment on this particular implementation and it's ramifications?

I hate to be this guy, but this conversation comes up all the time. Please do a forum search to see if a thread on a topic has already come up before cluttering the forum by creating a new one. Seriously, there's another thread on the vehicle damage/scale topic still on the first page of this forum...

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/123191-damage-to-vehicles-and-scale/page-2

So no comment on this particular implementation and it's ramifications?

I don't think that's his point. It's just that these types of repeat topics just feel like spam after awhile.

Don't get me wrong, I feel that personal versus vehicle scale is horribly one-sided (Ewoks were able to take down at AT-ST with minimal injury and it took 3 Knight level Force users running FaD overlay to take down one and one of us almost died) and really should be fixed, and I feel that your method does a decent job of doing so without totally breaking it, but it's just as simple to add to another discussion and present your logic as it is to make a new topic. Further, it can gather more attention from like-minded users and prevents spamming the forums, which Mr. Theo was trying to get at.

He wasn't trying to be rude. He was trying to guide you towards those like-minded people so you can see what they think. :)

Sorry for repeat this but, I agree with Vehicle x5 scale, but I will add (or preserve) Starship scale x10.

The rest is a "why not" :)