Warriors of the imperium.

By Spatulaodoom, in Rogue Trader

Does anyone know where you'd find the standard template for a member of the PDF, Imperial Guard, or Storm Trooper?

Does anyone care to take a shot at statting them out?

I notice that the Hired Gun from the core book mentions it as "the bulk of the PDF" so I'd assume the average Guardsman is somewhat better. Yes I know that a lot of PDF and IG will depend on their homeword for quality/equipment/etc but what do you see as the standard template for these that is then modified as appropriate?

Side note, I used the Hired Gun for their average ship's armsman, gave him a shot gun and called it a day.

I've given my gaming group a "Stormtrooper" detachment that's actually cobbled together from the best warriors among the hardbitten survivors from a space hulk, ghost ship, and the Processional of the Damned (haunted ship graveyard outside of time and space). Of course they decided they wanted to replace the small cardare of kroot mercs that were serving as their red shirts on missions with a few of the "stormtroopers." As a stopgap measure I made up a quick stat block based on the Oathsworn Bodyguard (fiddled with a few skills to gain tech use and traded disarm for basic weapon universal and one heavy weapon), but now I'm trying to figure out something a little more permanent/appropriate.

I'll also need it in the future because their 100 man detachment and a dozen surviving kroot (from the original 30) are spread very thin between three small ships (orion clipper, sword frigate, wolf pack raider), and they're already talking about upping the number of regular troopers.

Edited by Spatulaodoom

The Only war core rulebook. It has what you are looking for in the NPC's section. well, except for the PDF, but you can just use the stats for a guardsman and tweak it maybe a bit.

It also has rules for making your own regiment, something that might come in handy if your RT decides to land on some planet and conscript a bunch of techno-barbarians/ pirate mercenaries, etc...

Had a quick look at the only war introductory adventure and it looks like the standard Guardsman is pretty much on par with the Hired Gun, having slightly better stats in some places and worse in others, and a few less wounds.

Side note, I'm happy just using the BFK rules for large scale conflicts and tweaking a few of the bad bits. It's not perfect but it's pretty straight forward and simple, and with half my players being new to the system that's what I want. Besides, large scale battles isn't really the current focus, I'm more concerned about the smaller, individual, scale and how they relate on the power scale to PC's and other statted out monsters and humans.

I've house ruled parts of BFK, simplifying it. There are other sourcebooks with similar stuff. I think Lure of the Expanse and Edge of the Abyss has house guards and companions. The thing about Only War is the troopers are trained with heavy weapons, which I don't think Hired Guns have. Then again, maybe people trained for shipboard combat wouldn't have heavy weapons training.

Oh, and as far as organization goes, a TO&E table from today will help you quite a lot.

If you have The Frozen Reaches it has the Damaris Levy Trooper and Damaris Skitarii Tech-Guard. We used the Levy heavily and our group adopted them as armsmen after that adventure. The Tech-Guard can function well as a kind of Stormtrooper.

But if you're talking about those kinds of numbers, it'd be best to adopt the Frozen Reaches' rules or use BFK's (which I think is based on them).

Right! I totally forgot about Frozen Reaches, and it has the Household Troopers. Truth to tell, I have that part cut out and placed in my own file of all troops of that sort. I'd thought it was from another book, but it's Frozen Reaches, for sure.

Whenever I find anything from any of the books I plan on using over and over, I just cut and paste into my own files.

And my house rules for massed combat are totally based on the Frozen Reaches, which my players LOVED the first time through. AND, they hated BFK, which are actually very close, but more detailed, so I "re-simplified" them, which means a little more planning on my part and apparently more fun on their part.

I've house ruled parts of BFK, simplifying it. There are other sourcebooks with similar stuff. I think Lure of the Expanse and Edge of the Abyss has house guards and companions. The thing about Only War is the troopers are trained with heavy weapons, which I don't think Hired Guns have. Then again, maybe people trained for shipboard combat wouldn't have heavy weapons training.

As I mentioned I already have the Lure of the Expanse. I was in part wondering how the house troops in there compared to the IG.

Well I borrowed a buddy's copy of Only War, and the stats in there are different than the ones in the intro game. The first thing I noted was that the Storm Trooper had the same Wounds as the average Guarsman. Beyond that it looks pretty good. Looks like OW condensed skills a bit. Stealth rather than concealment and silent moves. Yay.

It looks like I can pretty much just use that with some minor modifications.

Carrion Commandos here we go.

Edited by Spatulaodoom