Hi all,

I have a few questions, I am sure they are very basic, but have caused some discussion..

1) Firstly, House Tyrell Guard. The response on this card says: After on of your Baratheon characters is killed, put house Tyrell Guard into play from your hand. Can I ask, when is a card killed... If I lose a military challenge, and choose a character to pay the claim BUT can then save the character, say Ser Davos uses his own response, or Lightbringer saves the character.. has that character been killed? My friend and I have discussed it and believe a character can only be considered killed when it goes to the dead pile..

2) The plot card: The Power of Blood. Noble characters cannot be killed. When this plot card is revealed I am wondering how you interpret the effect. If you lose a military challenge, can you choose a noble character, say Joffrey Baratheon, to pay the claim and have him in effect be saved by the plot effect? or would you be unable to nominate noble characters to pay military claim? I have been thinking that the actual advantage of the plot card and having noble characters would be to save the character from being killed when defending against an attacker with the Deadly keyword, or from a response on a card like Robb Stark.

I am finding that as certain cards/effects are revealed during play you become more aware of how the game effects are intended and you get a feel for the game, but as yet my friend and I are still coming across some cards for the first time and so the learning continues!!

thanks

Sartar said:

Well, yes and no. A character is killed when it is successfully removed from play by an effect that says to "kill" it. ("Effect" covers both effects written on cards and game effects like settling military claim.) So a character that is saved is not considered to have been killed. However, to simply say a character is killed when it goes to the dead pile is a slight over-simplification. For example, a Stalwart character like Eddard Stark would go to the top of your deck instead of the dead pile when he is killed, but is still considered to have been killed because he was removed from play by a "kill" effect.

Sartar said:

You interpret the effect "cannot be killed" as that character being unable to be targeted or removed from play by an effect that says to "kill" a character. A character that cannot be killed cannot be chosen for any kill effect (like military claim, Deadly or Robb Stark), but it will also not die when an effect kills without actually targeting anything (like the plot Valar Morghulis). So because "cannot be killed" characters cannot be targeted/chosen by any kill effect, you cannot choose a Noble to die for military claim when this plot is out. You'll have to choose a non-Noble character to die for claim, if you have one out.

Sartar said:

Yes, this is a very dynamic game. A single card can have a huge impact on the entire situation.

Many thanks for the explanation.. At the moment I am sure many of the questions I have are 'noobish', and I appreciate the time taken to answer a question that must have been asked many times before.

Ask away. Hey, we were all noobs at one point or another.