Hey guys

Got a little tourny to go to and I wanted some advice. First off, meta is not Phantom or Han heavy, so not having a hard counter to either of those is necessary.

Last time I played I did a Jonus brothers variant with 2x Onyx +IC and Jonus with some stuff that never ended up being relevant. Loved the Defenders, Jonus was a let down.

So I was thinking of taking either.

1)

2x Onyx +IC

2x Obsidian +TC

All PS 3 so Predator isn't as useful against them, and I can move them in any order I want. Plan is to pair the Defender with a Fighter, and try to approach from 2 angles, Ion a ship and then swing into it's blind spot and blast at close range. Rinse + Repeat.

Variants could be 2x Academy with Stealth, Winged Gundark + Night Beast, or other Tie Fighter combinations.

2)

2x Onyx +IC

Sigma Squad Pilot + SPA, Recon Spec

Again, PS 3 across the board. Defenders Ion targets to keep them still and the phantom does hit and run attacks against whatever I want.

I'm limiting myself to stuff I have, obviously, and I'm definitely keeping the Defenders. What do you think would work best out of the two. What other suggestions could you offer?

I have to admit I've never thought about the ion + K-turn behind combo. Sounds great.

Not sure how useful those Targeting computers will be, though. I know you want to do 3's, but for 2 15-point ties, 2x Black squad w/ Determination seems more useful

I like to fly this list:

Rexler + PTL
Vessery + VI
Yorr Shuttle empty

Rexler and Vessery are both PS8, Yorr will suck away stress so feel free to use your hard turns and Rexler's PTL. When attacking, have Vessery attack 1st so his ability can kick in, then sped TL on Rexler when attacking whenever possible so you can use his focus token for his ability

This setup is pretty interesting too, because the correct target to take out first would be Yorr, instead of the Defenders, so if your opponent isnt aware of this he would have a pretty tough time.

I like to fly this list:

Rexler + PTL

Vessery + VI

Yorr Shuttle empty

Rexler and Vessery are both PS8, Yorr will suck away stress so feel free to use your hard turns and Rexler's PTL. When attacking, have Vessery attack 1st so his ability can kick in, then sped TL on Rexler when attacking whenever possible so you can use his focus token for his ability

This setup is pretty interesting too, because the correct target to take out first would be Yorr, instead of the Defenders, so if your opponent isnt aware of this he would have a pretty tough time.

That is an interesting list you have there. You can either go with Yorr or a regular shuttle with fleet officer. I have to give it a try!

I like to fly this list:

Rexler + PTL

Vessery + VI

Yorr Shuttle empty

Rexler and Vessery are both PS8, Yorr will suck away stress so feel free to use your hard turns and Rexler's PTL. When attacking, have Vessery attack 1st so his ability can kick in, then sped TL on Rexler when attacking whenever possible so you can use his focus token for his ability

This setup is pretty interesting too, because the correct target to take out first would be Yorr, instead of the Defenders, so if your opponent isnt aware of this he would have a pretty tough time.

That is an interesting list you have there. You can either go with Yorr or a regular shuttle with fleet officer. I have to give it a try!

Must be Yorr because of the PTL on Rexler. If using OMG fleet officer, change PTL for something else.

I would still recommend Yorr though, you get to use your hard turn 1 maneuvers

My favorite double defender list is as follows:

Delta Squadron with Ion Cannon

Delta Squadron with Ion Cannon

Carnor Jax with Push the Limit, Royal Guard TIE, Stealth Device, Targeting Computer

For more info on the list: www.tabletopgeneral.com/2014/09/29/tie-defender/

Heres a double delta i am probly gonna run next weekend

Delta ion 2x

Soontier ptl

I've played Rexler Brath with Outmaenovure and IC. Works great as long as you get the Ion cannon to work, then K-turn over your target and blast it to pieces with 4 attacks with -1 agility on the target. Should kill most standard ships in 4 firing phases if not 2 with help from supporting ships. When I ran Rexler, this was my list:

Whisper - VI, ACD, FCS - 39pts

Rexler Brath - OM, IC - 43pts

Dark Curse - 16pts

-- 98pts --

Worked very nicely against Wedge, Etahn and Tyco (though my opponent didn't really get his strategy right). Rexler did most of the work, ionising Etahn, then Wedge and my opponent conceeded when I was about to surround Tyco.