2 week and i' ll go my first tournament

By shakaumruk, in X-Wing

hi, i' ll go my first tournament, if want help me to decide and upgrade the lists.

i make these,and i dont know what is better:

1)

wedge antilles +VI + r2d2

rookie pilot ( x wing)

rookie pilot ( x wing)

bandit squad

bandit squad

2)

corran horn +fire control sistem+ veteran istint + r2d2

kyle katarn + blaster turret + recon specialist + modly crow

bandit squad

bandit squad

tot 97 , what upgrade?

3)

corran horn +fire control sistem+ r2d2

jan ors + ion turret + nien numb + modly crow

bandit squad

tala squad

4)

ten nunb +veteran istint + autoblaster

ethan a'bath +determination +r2d2

tala squad

tala squad

any suggestion or other lists.

i dont kow if there are fat falcon list ( c3po) , but probably phantom list yea.

thanks a lot

List 1 is fine, a engine upgrade on wedge would be awesome tho.

A big mistake with these lists is that the centerpiece is way too obvious. In list number one Wedge will get focused down first 10 out of 10 times. None of the other ships are nearly as dangerous as he is. In list number two you have Corran with R2-D2, that combo has a lot more staying power than Wedge in the previous list, but he is still an obvious centerpiece that your opponent don't want to leave unattended. Same goes for list three. As for number four, Ten and Etahn are buddies, that's for sure, but the autoblaster kind of defeats the purpose of having Etahn there as you will roll crits with the autoblaster too. I'd rather you downgraded the Tala's to Bandits and changed the Autoblaster to HLC instead, as that cannon will force your to turn your crits into hits and then you can use Etahn to turn one of those into a crit again. Here you have spread the danger out a bit, most people will probably go for Ten first, that will however leave Etahn to his own, and he can do quite some damage by himself as well.

Edited by Narcoleptic

I had played a few times against the etahn + ten numb + 3 bandits build, B-wings are too easy to pin down and destroy, specially with swarms.

List one is a variant of a XXXZZZ, one less Z, a better X. X's are always the focus anyways (or should be), but wedge in that list could act as a biggs which actually does damage. I don't like R2D2, because he would die fast tho. Giving it more thought, i would change a few things to actually include biggs.

Rookie Pilot (21)
Wedge Antilles (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Biggs Darklighter (25)
Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Total: 100
Seems better to me. Wedge could last longer, where his damage output can be pretty good. Or Tarn mison with droid.
Edited by DreadStar

List 1 or 2.

Sure you have a center piece. Don't lose it. =)

Corran Horn (35)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Hull Upgrade (3)
Kyle Katarn (21)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Jan Ors (2)
Moldy Crow (3)
Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Bandit Squadron Pilot (12)
Total: 100
Jan Ors or Wingman. Wingman good against Rebel Captive.
This list gives a LOT more protection to Corran. Hull Upgrade, then R2D2 and Kyle's focus pass or evade Jan pass.
Ion Cannon Turret always better. Always, except in a 4 HWK list.
Also, use geordans builder. its faster for us to modify the list.

A big mistake with these lists is that the centerpiece is way too obvious. In list number one Wedge will get focused down first 10 out of 10 times. None of the other ships are nearly as dangerous as he is. In list number two you have Corran with R2-D2, that combo has a lot more staying power than Wedge in the previous list, but he is still an obvious centerpiece that your opponent don't want to leave unattended. Same goes for list three. As for number four, Ten and Etahn are buddies, that's for sure, but the autoblaster kind of defeats the purpose of having Etahn there as you will roll crits with the autoblaster too. I'd rather you downgraded the Tala's to Bandits and changed the Autoblaster to HLC instead, as that cannon will force your to turn your crits into hits and then you can use Etahn to turn one of those into a crit again. Here you have spread the danger out a bit, most people will probably go for Ten first, that will however leave Etahn to his own, and he can do quite some damage by himself as well.

sorry but dont understand.

i look much list in the forum , with a one big attacker only ( phantom list or similar). i understand your though, and try to make anything.

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!46:0,-1:-1:-1:;64:-1:-1:-1:;43:-1,-1,-1,58:-1:-1:;0:27,-1,3:-1:2:

or also:

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!0:27,-1,3:-1:2:;4:-1,-1:-1:-1:;46:0,-1:-1:-1:;65:-1:-1:-1:

or:

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!0:27,-1,3:-1:2:;4:-1,-1:-1:-1:;44:-1,22,-1,-1:-1:-1:;64:-1:-1:-1:

or can help me to understand;

i have all rebel but not corvette or transport; have also phantom.

thanks

i look taht 2 strong rebel attacker is too much because have only 3 ship.

and without rebel ace you need e-wing to have 2 attacker, or help me.

i love also the hawk as a ship.

Edited by shakaumruk

The Phantom lives and dies by maneuverability and PS. What's keeping it alive is that it wants to move last to avoid arcs and shooting first to trigger ACD.

Fat Han is another one of those lists with one large centerpiece, and his way of staying on the field is through sheer hitpoints and auto-evades with MF title and C3PO.

In general these centerpieces usually have some way of staying alive. For example, Wedge alone simply doesn't have an edge when it comes to stay alive. He flies an X-wing which is a workhorse. It's well-rounded, but not good nor bad at anything.

Lists can do well without heavy-hitters as well. Examples would be a list a former member of my club flew, 4 Blue sqdr. with AS. He won several store championships and a regional with just that. Four identical ships. The list I took to the Nordic championships consisted of Etahn with PtL and R2 together with 3 Rookies, no heavy hitters there either. It's not a top tier list, but it depends a lot on your flying.

Ok thanks,you explane very well. Il try ethan with 3 rookie,lose only for 2 error against phantom.

The only problem i look when played, its the low pilota skill.