I'm not worried about the distorted shapes and sizes. It's a cartoon and its out of proportion. Same in The Clone Wars cartoons. Even The Clone Wars figurines were brought out not in proportion.

I don't think it's a previous shape SD or TIE its just their artistic license they are using for a cartoon.

Look how funny the stormtroopers look.

It's a cartoon not live action.

I'm happy with it.

Zeb's appearance is the prototype for Chewbacca. Chopper has manipulator arms in a similar position to that of the original R2-D2 concept art. Even the Ghost bears some resemblance to the concept for the original Corellian Corvette, which was going to be Han Solo's ship before the Falcon was created. If you Google for McQuarrie's drawings, you'll see some of the initial TIE Fighter sketch ups had them at that fat, awkward size.

Dave Filoni, the fellow running the show, lives for McQuarrie and his artwork and has pretty much met his life's objective by doing an animated feature rendered in the style of his personal hero and inspiration. There's at least an hours worth of youtube video's with Filoni discussing this in detail.

Stubby ties didn't bother me but the giraffe star destroyer did look stupid and I hated how bad the wookies looked compared to everything else around them.

The wookiees were awful. I didn't notice the ISD until you pointed it out. The stubby TIEs look like the old Kenner toy version.

This is the one I saw that I objected to.

Note the recoil before the shot?

If it is before the shot, it cannot be recoil. The gunner must have flinched.

Its like hearing the thunder, then seeing the lightning flash, and knowing something just wasn't right...

And the motion of the gun is so slow. It should be way faster if it is recoil, and then slow to return to position as a spring moves it back.

Lasers have recoil?

That's very implausible.

If I remember correctly the turbolasers did the same thing in the original trilogy.

If you want to get technical, at the speed that light travels, should we even be able to follow the bursts.

This looks better, same with the turret recoil gif.

I think this miniature is going to look deadly. 360 HCL turret without needing a title card.

If these blasters need to recoil, what about recoil on a Tie fighter craft?

Recoil on energy weapons bothers me in that recoil is a way of dealing with the energy of an explosion as it tries to push the mass of an object from a standstill up to speed. Done improperly and your breach will explode!

Blasters, or other guns that use plasma, are accelerating a very small amount of mass up to a very high speed. Plasma is a state of matter with lots of charged electrons and protons, the higher the amount of energy you put into plasma, the more of these positive and negative particles get added. The thing is, electrons and protons have next to no mass. The need for recoil is redundant, and in an energy based weapon, a wasteful use of the discharged energy as the mass is not plugging the barrel, therefore no need to control the explosion to prevent the breach from blowing up.

Because plasma responds very well to magnetism, it should be more like a GAUSS gun in operation, with a magnetic field being the propellant.

And now I get to see how big this can o' worms is...

Blasters/lasers in starwars are not really lasers. They aren't made of beams of weightless light. They are superheated gas projected at extreme speeds. So yeah, they have recoil.

I see their aim is bad as ever...

Its got recoil because the guns in the WWII film stock they were copying from had recoil...nerds.

Guys it looks cool for the love of god that is the ONLY reason.

Recoil on energy weapons bothers me in that recoil is a way of dealing with the energy of an explosion as it tries to push the mass of an object from a standstill up to speed.

While not really invalidating your point, recoil is a result of pushing mass up to speed by any means, not just via explosion. Rail and coil guns also produce recoil.

The guns have recoil because it looks cool. That's it.

Seriously people, this is Star Wars were talking about, where there's sounds and explosions in Space, don't expect it to follow the laws of physics.

Most star wars ships wouldn't be able to turn with the way their engines are designed.

Agreed... Why do all the fighters have wings if there is no air to create lift?

Remember it's science fiction, no just science.

I see their aim is bad as ever...

Agreed... Why do all the fighters have wings if there is no air to create lift?

Remember it's science fiction, no just science.

Because they also fly in atmo...

As to the squatty TIEs, I think that is an optical illusion. The wings seem smaller, and I think that's why they look squatty, also, I think the cockpit is still the correct size, which adds to the illusion

Agreed... Why do all the fighters have wings if there is no air to create lift?

Remember it's science fiction, no just science.

Um.

Because they DO operate in atmosphere, and it looks cool.

The guns have recoil because it looks cool. That's it.

Seriously people, this is Star Wars were talking about, where there's sounds and explosions in Space, don't expect it to follow the laws of physics.

Most star wars ships wouldn't be able to turn with the way their engines are designed.

Well, I mean. There IS sound in space. It just doesn't travel very far. Also Explosions happen all the time in space. See: Existence... and the fact that collisions and concussive/kinetic force often result in shockwaves sent out in all directions.

...Just saying. I mean yes, fireball explosions don't happen- wait no, they do if oxygen was present within the object that exploded, but it's far more brief than any fireb-...

Actually fireball explosions are extremely brief here on earth too if we're completely honest.

Explosions in space are different but they definitely occur.

Ok, yes, of course there are explosions, just not the giant fireballs we see in star wars, the tiny bit of oxygen inside the ships would burn up almost instsntly.

Should be no oxygen in a TIE as they have no life support.. that's why the pilots all wear those fancy helmets and breathing apparatus. Though X-wings would have a little..

It'd be like...

B O O F . . .

Should be no oxygen in a TIE as they have no life support.. that's why the pilots all wear those fancy helmets and breathing apparatus. Though X-wings would have a little..

I refute this claim! They DO contain fuel and energy for weapons! Upon destruction these parts would also likely burst and explode. Which actually might even explain the green fire in the original cut of Star Wars when that TIE collided with Vader's TIE, now that I think about it.

Nothing to refute, I said no oxygen.. not that there wasn't fuel or gas. Lol

Actually I don't have a problem with the ISD look. The one shown in Rebels is at least 5 years older than the ones we're familiar with from the movies. The way I look at it is the newer models have either 1: had a refit or 2: a redesign to the newer look.

That's a good way to rationalize it, and since the EU is gone, the earlier explanation of the difference between the Devastator from ANH model and the Avenger model from ESB, is no longer canon.

I just wish that that earlier material hadn't been purged just in order to stick to the McQuarrie imagery over and above the movie versions of things. I just don't see the added value.

Boo, EU isn't gone, it is just in a different canonical timeline. Disneyverse/JJverse and the EU (or Legends).

Btw, nothing says the difference between ISDs and ISD mk2s doesn't exist.

Should be no oxygen in a TIE as they have no life support.. that's why the pilots all wear those fancy helmets and breathing apparatus. Though X-wings would have a little..

That's driving me nuts as well.

Should be no oxygen in a TIE as they have no life support.. that's why the pilots all wear those fancy helmets and breathing apparatus. Though X-wings would have a little..

That's driving me nuts as well.

Well, thanks to the Entanglement short, we do know that TIEs have a fuel tanks and that fuel is green. That could be the cause of the green colored explosions we see when a TIE is killed. Also, as for an oxygen supply, could the TIE be carrying a tank of O2 that the pilot hooks into so he can breathe? I know modern fighters have something like that for their pilots.

Chances are the TIE pilot does have oxygen tanks at least. It's just not... Well, totally pressurized and whatnot, or something.

A suit like that can't carry enough oxygen for an operation. At all.