Same treatment for the TIE fighters.

Unless I'm reading this wrong I don't see any point in rationalizing the proportions of ships in SW:Rebels. Its a stylistic choice made by the creators of the animated TV series. Is that so hard to understand? Any argument for or against it is subject only to personal taste, not whether its consistent with canon measurements.

Well, you'd probably be less ambivalent about it if you'd spent a few hours every night for a few months working on a deckplan for the ISD, based on numerous sources, to have cavalier 'stylistic choice', which is now canon, cross your screen.

I think what he means is its the art style the series is going with. The plastic hair isn't canon, it's just the animation style.

Canonically Star Wars still looks like this:

Unless I'm reading this wrong I don't see any point in rationalizing the proportions of ships in SW:Rebels. Its a stylistic choice made by the creators of the animated TV series. Is that so hard to understand? Any argument for or against it is subject only to personal taste, not whether its consistent with canon measurements.

Well, you'd probably be less ambivalent about it if you'd spent a few hours every night for a few months working on a deckplan for the ISD, based on numerous sources, to have cavalier 'stylistic choice', which is now canon, cross your screen.

I don't really see how?

I mean, I assume you are working on the deck plans for either the Avenger or Devastator? In either case, there is no conflict, here (I mean, unless we see the Avenger or Devastator appear IN Rebels with this style - but even then, it's a minimal "problem" - the ships just obviously would have had a refit between this period and the OT movies).

You just have to look at the USN to see a crazy variety in ship layouts - even in ships of the same class! Nevermind the "variants" like Arleigh Burke flight I vs flight II (which are substantially different designs, even though they are ostensibly the 'same class' - adding, amongst other things, an entirely new hangar!)

The idea that a Galactic Empire, having tens of thousands of ships built over decades, would have every one of them be absolutely printing-press-identical over that entire period is...unlikely, to say the least.

And that's again assuming that the Giraffe-class actually exists and looks like that, rather than simply being the cartoon's artistic impression of a standard ImpStar I. If it were realistic Live Action I'd see the issue but it isn't.

Bow-on, the bridge looks a little tall, but the broadside view looks fine to me.

Bow-on, the bridge looks a little tall, but the broadside view looks fine to me.

Unless I'm reading this wrong I don't see any point in rationalizing the proportions of ships in SW:Rebels. Its a stylistic choice made by the creators of the animated TV series.

This! Exactly This. The show has a particular artistic style. You can dislike it if you like (I do, to some extent), but it is just artistic representation. Within the "reality" of the Star Wars universe these Star Destroyers (and the TIE Fighters) are most likely completely identical to the ones from the original movies. Obsessing over the differences between the two artistic representations is like getting upset because of the differences between this

and a photograph of a real aircraft carrier.

I can't stand it when an overly obsessive fandom takes minor variations is scale or depictions of something from a property and concocts big, convoluted rationalizations to explain them instead of just going "Well, guess the artist got that slightly wrong."

The ISD is terrible. Fix now plz.

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I can't stand it when an overly obsessive fandom takes minor variations is scale or depictions of something from a property and concocts big, convoluted rationalizations to explain them instead of just going "Well, guess the artist got that slightly wrong."

As a card-carrying member of the OCD-fandom club, I can certainly take your point to heart. But it also makes that material - which is canon - useless for further development of projects such as that of myself and my compatriots.

I know it ain't such a big deal, but...

...it feels kind of like that moment in APM, when Jar Jar Binks was first introduced.

What I can't believe is that people are still banging on about lasers. They're obviously not lasers.

As for the ISD, I don't mind it. It's the art style.

Lasers have recoil?

That's very implausible.

I watched the whole thing and I kept thinking "Wow, Disney's animation standards have really slid on this one".

Did they even spring for a person to match up the animation with the spoken dialogue... It's almost like watching a translated movie the dubbing is so off.

And the Wookies were hairy but had no texture. It was like watching tall brown cylinders that growled....

Your probably seeing the cooling sleve in action.

Lasers have recoil?

That's very implausible.

If I remember correctly the turbolasers did the same thing in the original trilogy.

If you want to get technical, at the speed that light travels, should we even be able to follow the bursts.

The LASERs used in SW are dramatically way more advanced than what we got in eal life, although with recent technology invovling photons or lasers we got things that can do similair things shown on screen and or we are right at that point leadup to use doing what's seen on film.

Going by techbooks writen by people with heavy backgrounds in science they have ofical writen into the lore Laser weapons in sw are lasers and are not one in the same as blasters. So far in lore what is written is the beam use see is a artifact, a. However it can be easily written that these are firing hard light lasers or lasers bottled in synthtic magnetic botles.

You can look up are real advances in harld light or photon manipulation with synthetic magnatism..

Pretty sure you still need tibanna to run a Star Destroyer.

Pretty sure you still need tibanna to run a Star Destroyer.

As I understand it, the tibanna is the gas used for the imperial blasters. It's a higher grade than what the rebels use, and it's the reason that the imperials shoot green rather than red.

This is the one I saw that I objected to.

Note the recoil before the shot?

If it is before the shot, it cannot be recoil. The gunner must have flinched.

Pretty sure you still need tibanna to run a Star Destroyer.

As I understand it, the tibanna is the gas used for the imperial blasters. It's a higher grade than what the rebels use, and it's the reason that the imperials shoot green rather than red.

The stormtroopers and AT-ATs shoot red.

This is the one I saw that I objected to.

Note the recoil before the shot?

Seeing as it's before the shot, it can't be recoil, so the entire barrel assembly moving for some other reason. AFAIK we don't have any detailed canon explaination as to how a blaster fires, so I guess anything could be made up to explain it.

(If you want an example of what I mean, it might be the barrel section moves back in order to compress the blaster charge until it reacts and releases a bolt which is then channeled down the barrel.)

As for any complains that lasers don't cause recoil:

- Yes they do. Lasers consist of photons, and photons have momentum. When you fire off a load of photons, the equal and opposite to their combined momentum will act on the firing gun... as recoil.

- They're not lasers anyway.

Bow-on, the bridge looks a little tall, but the broadside view looks fine to me.

No, I get the difference, I just don't think it looks bad/off from the side.

AFAIK we don't have any detailed canon explaination as to how a blaster fires, so I guess anything could be made up to explain it.

Hehe: canon explanation about cannons...

For every action there is an equal reaction.

Actually I don't have a problem with the ISD look. The one shown in Rebels is at least 5 years older than the ones we're familiar with from the movies. The way I look at it is the newer models have either 1: had a refit or 2: a redesign to the newer look. As an example, let's take a look at a US battleship before and after a refit:

Same ship, different look.

I was *just* about to post the same thing.

The 'command tower' for ships gets updated regularly - the thing is DESIGNED to be easily replace and upgraded over time.

CVN-65 from 1960s:

...same ship, after refit:

Whoa, the deck changed color!

That's what I liked about clone wars, while the faces were very rigid and stylized, the ships/vehicles were all accurate, and some of the fight scenes nearly rivaled the movies in quality of graphics.

I think the squatty tie fighters bother me more than the giraffe star destroyers.

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Long time fan of the films here. At one point in my life I did little but eat and breathe Star Wars and I was a tyrant when it came to anyone changing things or making them weird.

That having been said, I like their spin on the Imperial class. The taller bridge gives the ship a more commanding appearance, as if they were reflecting the bearing of an Imperial officers stature. Head held high, shoulders back, eyes peering down at whomever they were speaking to.

It has a stately elegance to it.

The ship in the doctored images looks fat, almost as if it had shoulders that were slumped forward with its head (the bridge superstructure) tucked in and down.

But that's just me! Usually something like this would gnaw at my soul. For some reason, it doesn't.

An Imperial class in the atmosphere of a planet...that..that kind of grates on my brain cells though.

P.S. To the posters who noted earlier that the shows art work is supposed to be based on concept art done for the very first film by Ralph McQuarrie, you're absolutely correct. And that is the reason for the entire aesthetic that makes the show look off from the more realistic and detailed clone wars.

Zeb's appearance is the prototype for Chewbacca. Chopper has manipulator arms in a similar position to that of the original R2-D2 concept art. Even the Ghost bears some resemblance to the concept for the original Corellian Corvette, which was going to be Han Solo's ship before the Falcon was created. If you Google for McQuarrie's drawings, you'll see some of the initial TIE Fighter sketch ups had them at that fat, awkward size.

Dave Filoni, the fellow running the show, lives for McQuarrie and his artwork and has pretty much met his life's objective by doing an animated feature rendered in the style of his personal hero and inspiration. There's at least an hours worth of youtube video's with Filoni discussing this in detail.

two panning camera screen shots stitched into one panorama.