Public Objective Question: More Influence than my Neighbors

By aniedrig, in Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition

Hi,

me and my gaming group wondered about one public objective card, namely the one that says:

"I have more Influence than the player to my immediate left and the player to my immediate right."

Do only the unexhausted planet cards count or do all (unexhausted and exhausted) planet cards count?

Thank you!

All planet cards count for the purpose of this objective.

Okay, I guess you could say the wording is "I control more planets", and I do indeed control them, no matter whether they are exhausted or not.

thanks

Edited by aniedrig

Okay, I guess you could say the wording is "I control more planets", and I do indeed control them, no matter whether they are exhausted or not.

thanks

No, not really since not all planets have the same amount of Influence. You might control, say 6 resource heavy planets with a total of 5 Influence while your neighbour (A) only has 5 planets but with a total of 9 Influence. In this case you'd have a long way to go towards fulfillment of said objective. However if your neighbours neighbour (B) has 4 planets with only 3 or less Influence total then Neighbour A could claim the objective even if he has fewer planets since he has more Influence.

Okay, I guess you could say the wording is "I control more planets", and I do indeed control them, no matter whether they are exhausted or not.

thanks

No, not really since not all planets have the same amount of Influence. You might control, say 6 resource heavy planets with a total of 5 Influence while your neighbour (A) only has 5 planets but with a total of 9 Influence. In this case you'd have a long way to go towards fulfillment of said objective. However if your neighbours neighbour (B) has 4 planets with only 3 or less Influence total then Neighbour A could claim the objective even if he has fewer planets since he has more Influence.

oh yeah, you are right. The wording is not "...more planets...", it is "...more influence..."

That's how we played it, anyway.

A quick example for clarification:

Player A has 5 planets with 1 Influence each (= 5 Influence in total)

Player B has 4 planets with 2 Influence each (= 8 Influence in total)

Player C has 3 planets with 3 Influence each (= 9 Influence in total)

Player C will fulfill the Objective since he has the most total Influence, even though he has less planets in total.

However, my initial question was whether all planets count, i.e. exhausted and unexhausted? Since planet cards are refreshed after the objective step and during voting for instance, only your unexhausted planets provide their Influence, we thought, there is the possibility that only your unexhausted planets count toward that Objective.

And that is what I wanted to say with what you quoted. I do control them no matter whether they are exhausted or unexhausted. In that case player C would fulfill the Objective even if all of his planets are exhausted.

I hope everything is correct now.

Edited by aniedrig

That is how I would interpret it although it is not 100% totally clear to me, from the wording, wether Player C needs more Inf. than Player A and more than Player B or if Player C needs to have more than Players A & B combined.

Edited by Fnoffen

No, it is not necessary to have more influence than both your neighbors combined, at least not in the Stage I Objective Card.

Because, there is a similar Stage II Objective Card, which specifically says that you need more influence than both your neighbors combined.

So that should be clear.

Edited by aniedrig