If an hero carring the objective token are defeated on one of the two plates of the map( the special square marked with an X) the objective token are considered “deployed” in order to complete the quest? or the heros have to taken again and THAN drop in the correct marked space using one of their actions?
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If an hero carring the objective token are defeated on one of the two plates of the map( the special square marked with an X) the objective token are considered “deployed” in order to complete the quest? or the heros have to taken again and THAN drop in the correct marked space using one of their actions?
I'd need to go back and read the quest guide. Does the hero need to perform an action while on the plate, or is the requirement just that the weight is in that space? If there is no additional action required, I think that's your answer.
actually the rule says that the hero have to perform an action in order to deploy the item. but does not saying that they have to, in order to win.
my heroes have use this "bug" as a shield against my monsters, so i can not try to kill them during my turn, or i make them win, but if i not doing it, they'll win their next turn, so i was stuck anyway. I allow them to read the rule this way, but i'm still not sure if i was right or wrong
actually the rule says that the hero have to perform an action in order to deploy the item. but does not saying that they have to, in order to win.
my heroes have use this "bug" as a shield against my monsters, so i can not try to kill them during my turn, or i make them win, but if i not doing it, they'll win their next turn, so i was stuck anyway. I allow them to read the rule this way, but i'm still not sure if i was right or wrong
If a hero needs to perform a special action to set up the weight on the plate, then simply dropping it doesn't seem to complete the requirement. It depends on the victory condition. If the condition is "a weight has been deployed" vs. "a weight is in the unique space," that makes a big difference.
i will quote here: (i i've to translate back to english so be patience pls)
Special rule: spending an action, an hero adjacent to an objective token can take it. Using an action, an Hero whos carring an objective token can deploing it in a special space marked with an "X". In any special space can be only 1 Objective token. The heroes can pass the objective token to each others following the regular rules about items exchanging.
victory conditions: if the plates are in balance (the same amount of objective tokens) read the follow: [put flawor text here] the Heroes Win!
I've read this quest and in my opinion, you have to put it down, in order to win.
Since Ariad can destroy some of the tokens (by using 3 surges, I think... it was something ridiculous) this means if you're carrying it, the objective isn't safe.
actually the rule says that the hero have to perform an action in order to deploy the item. but does not saying that they have to, in order to win.
my heroes have use this "bug" as a shield against my monsters, so i can not try to kill them during my turn, or i make them win, but if i not doing it, they'll win their next turn, so i was stuck anyway. I allow them to read the rule this way, but i'm still not sure if i was right or wrong
If a hero needs to perform a special action to set up the weight on the plate, then simply dropping it doesn't seem to complete the requirement. It depends on the victory condition. If the condition is "a weight has been deployed" vs. "a weight is in the unique space," that makes a big difference.
Completely agree with this interpretation, that is how we played it and the situation did come up for us as well.
actually the rule says that the hero have to perform an action in order to deploy the item. but does not saying that they have to, in order to win.
my heroes have use this "bug" as a shield against my monsters, so i can not try to kill them during my turn, or i make them win, but if i not doing it, they'll win their next turn, so i was stuck anyway. I allow them to read the rule this way, but i'm still not sure if i was right or wrong
If a hero needs to perform a special action to set up the weight on the plate, then simply dropping it doesn't seem to complete the requirement. It depends on the victory condition. If the condition is "a weight has been deployed" vs. "a weight is in the unique space," that makes a big difference.
Completely agree with this interpretation, that is how we played it and the situation did come up for us as well.
After finally looking at my quest guide, I agree. In english, it just says that as an action a hero places a weight in a unique space, which is exactly what happens when a hero gets knocked out. I'm now convinced- if a hero is knocked out in a unique space while carrying a weight, that counts toward the victory condition.
Edited by Zaltyrethought so.
Anyway , even if we played in the correct way, i dont like this "bug". i found this quest too easy for the heroes to win without this "shortcut".
i mean, i kill them constantly, even 3 in 1 turn, but was never enough for fullfill MY victory conditions. Even if crawling and complaing it, they sloooowly go to the victory, pushing, carring and passing the **** tokens... i can reach 3 on 4 point to victory, but was a lucky strike in the first 2 turns, and just because they screw-up in a room to get one exploration token...after 2 whipe, they realize they should strart moving again...and then the next night (litteraly) they win.
yes, i'm complaing a lot about my defeat
i feel like that episode of drawn together
"Team A have to produce a safe and low cost cure against polio, before Team B...have putted the egg in the bucket.."
Edited by Jack and THE Hammer