IDK what the scale is for this game. I hope the executor is not too large. If it is included you can defiantly count me in.

The table would be a section of the executor. It's HUGE!!

it may not be too large for arena football....but will be too large for my wallet

I hope we don't see one. This has been debated endlessly elsewhere, though, so I won't get too much more into it. Suffice it to say that it might be tough to balance.

I can't see why it wouldn't be included. It is iconic, though for a size, it'd be to Armada what the CR-90 is to X-Wing.

I can't see why it wouldn't be included.

There's a ton of reasons not to include it. The biggest being the issue with game balance. It's the same issue you have with a ISD in X-Wing. It's just too powerful to fit the scale in terms of firepower and defenses that's been set for this game.

Consider a 300 point game, has room for maybe 3 VSD's and that's pushing it. You have room for most likely 2 ISD's. So how does something that has the power of 10+ ISD's fit in a game designed for a max of 2?

it'd be to Armada what the CR-90 is to X-Wing.

No, a SSD is 19 Kilometers long, a ISD is 1600 meters long, a CR-90 is 150 meters long. So even with a sliding scale, a SSD is still going to have be 2+ feet long to look correct next to the existing models.

Consider a 300 point game, has room for maybe 3 VSD's and that's pushing it. You have room for most likely 2 ISD's. So how does something that has the power of 10+ ISD's fit in a game designed for a max of 2?

Personally I would believe that 2 ISDs will be a stretch for 300 I think more likely we will be capped at 1 ISD and 1 VSD, since ISDs are roughly supposed to be worth 2 VSDs I am expecting the ISD to be about 140-150ish and with the mandatory commander (if that is true) then you won't be able to field 2 at 300

That said, I think a SSD will be very very far off if it is released.

1) this game already is more expensive than X-wing so by the time we get to "Epic" scale ships we will be talking about $150+ dollars which while they will probably sell, it would not be worth the investment right now to tie up their supply lines making ships that my not sell.

2) Like Vanor said the points that a SSD would cost would have to be at least 600pts in my estimation which means unless you go for very very large epic games you will get 1 ship with no fighters or support on the table which means realistically playing 750-1000 point games and it will be multiple waves before people collect that many ships at this price structure(30-40 for a 50-80point ship)

I can't see why it wouldn't be included.

There's a ton of reasons not to include it. The biggest being the issue with game balance. It's the same issue you have with a ISD in X-Wing. It's just too powerful to fit the scale in terms of firepower and defenses that's been set for this game.

Consider a 300 point game, has room for maybe 3 VSD's and that's pushing it. You have room for most likely 2 ISD's. So how does something that has the power of 10+ ISD's fit in a game designed for a max of 2?

it'd be to Armada what the CR-90 is to X-Wing.

No, a SSD is 19 Kilometers long, a ISD is 1600 meters long, a CR-90 is 150 meters long. So even with a sliding scale, a SSD is still going to have be 2+ feet long to look correct next to the existing models.

I agree. An SSD would be even more out of place in Armada than a ISD in X-wing. Its just massive.

If they did add one, it would be really nerfed from what a SSD is capable of fluff wise. Also, you run into the problem of not having a good Rebel equivalent. There are some obscure EU ships that had similar firepower the Rebels used, but really they used captured SSDs in some EU material.

If they did add one, it would be really nerfed from what a SSD is capable of fluff wise.

That's what got me in all the ISD in X-Wing or SSD in Armada posts...

People who claim to love something, yet they're willing to see it nerfed to oblivion and shrunk to the point of being laughable... To get it in the game. At which point it no longer is really the ship they are fans of.

So true Vanor, I think there's about as much chance of seeing an SSD in Armada as there is of seeing an ISD in X-wing. Now why don't we get onto something more constructive? Like, do we think there'll be a Death Star in Armada?

So true Vanor, I think there's about as much chance of seeing an SSD in Armada as there is of seeing an ISD in X-wing. Now why don't we get onto something more constructive? Like, do we think there'll be a Death Star in Armada?

Only if squadrons can get the Proton Torpedo Upgrade (side note I wonder if we actually would get squadron upgrades besides just unique pilots, or if the upgrades will mostly just be relegated to big ships)

I think the attack ratings of the squadron is probably taking their best armament into account already. So you may find Proton Torps are already included, if not actually named as such.

Sure, just park your car next to the play table. Make sure your car is black.

FFG had to create Star Wars Armada to allow for Star Destroyers (from such a clamor in X-Wing).

Now, after careful consideration, FFG will be announcing soon:

Star Wars Galaxy

The core set will include:

Executor
Death Star
Tatooine
Hoth
Endor
And a debris field for Alderaan

The playing field will be 300 feet by 160 feet. It's going to be a ***** to carry around the play mat.

Super Star Destroyers, while they would be beyond awesome, would be prohibitively hard to play and afford, I think.

That being said, I would adore the chance to do some of the Solo Command or Iron Fist battles, with Nove Squadron B-Wings backing up a Mon Calamari Star Cruiser and blowing the crap out of the beautiful, evil dagger.

I hope not. be very big and cost a fair bit. Plus would make fighters and smaller ships next to useless in that battle.

Like having a squad of guardsman and grots in a 40k titan fight. That makes the squad command less likely to be used. I personally don't think a SSD could be done while maintaining balance. But each to his own.

You could always make your own and create the stats. Hardest bit would be working out how many sections it has. Like the Tantive in x-wing having a back and a front but an SSD would need a lot more sections.

Let's find out how big the Imperial class is before we seriously speculate on whether the SSD will be on the table.

It could be when the Empire has a proper Star Destroyer, they won't have any need for a Super Star Destroyer.

FFG had to create Star Wars Armada to allow for Star Destroyers (from such a clamor in X-Wing).

Now, after careful consideration, FFG will be announcing soon:

Star Wars Galaxy

The core set will include:

Executor

Death Star

Tatooine

Hoth

Endor

And a debris field for Alderaan

The playing field will be 300 feet by 160 feet. It's going to be a ***** to carry around the play mat.

LOL

ARISE, THREAD!

Regarding the size - how big are the VSDs? Executer should be around 20 times the length of one, right? Well, the Tantive's only, what, 60% of what it should be, and that's in a game that had a set scale, prior to the A-Wing huge ships, so I think it could be done in Armada and still look pretty awesome.

The power of the thing though, that's a far bigger obstacle. Screw it, I just want it to look cool. Say's it's sleeping, and you've got 5 turns before it powers up!

According to Wookipedia, the Victory class is 900m long and the Imperial class 1600m long. So the Imperial is just less than twice as long as the Victory. The Executor class SSD is listed in several lengths depending on what your source is although Wookie lists it at 19000m.

I'm guessing the VSD is about 5-6 inches long. So a ISD that is 8-10 inches should look ok, and still be priced low enough that people won't think too hard about buying it.

That however means a SSD really needs to be in the 30-36 inch range to be anything other then stupidly small. I mean it should be 10 times the size, but that clearly isn't going to happen.

But at 30 inches, you're going to be hard pressed to fit it on the table really. Plus it will then cost nearly $250...

Honestly you have the same exact issue with a SSD in Armada that you do with a ISD in X-Wing.

I'd like to see the executor and that huge mon cal ship bright hope or whatever it's called....since armada isn't exactly to scale

I don't think we will, and for all we know that might be a good thing.

For the rebels to engage a fleet consisting of a SSD they would have to have some serious incentive... such as at Endor. There is not a really good reason to engage otherwise, and say what you will about the rebels, but they did plan their attacks well. (Or considering how under equipped they were, would never have won a single battle). And its not like you cant out run one of those behemoths.

Yes the SSD is awesome and "super" cool... but I don't see having one in this game as being practical. Anything that was affordable that could fit on the table would be underwhelming and anticlimactic at best.

If you really need to have one buy a large model and see if you can make it work.

That's what I do when the tactical games I play don't have all the ships I want.

Later

Problem with most of these games is players want to just play for 100pts or 300 pts. The executor would fit in perfectly with a 1000pt + game. Since they are capital ships both sides would field their

flag ships. I play massive games, far more fun than piddly 100-300 pt games. X-Wing games for me are 30 -40 fighters and at least 2 tantives. I would love to have the executor in a fleet, along with as many Mon Calmari Star cruisers as required.