Scarlet Cowgirl Herds the Moo Moos
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Buzz saw shuttles hate to see 1 agility ships. They don't trigger your combo consistently.
Kath's crew: when you have Captive you want recon; when you have recon you want captive.
Vader shuttles don't like Bwings or other high sheild targets.
Can beat a swarm but it is an uphill battle.
Haven't flown the build vs. a phantom.
With rebel captive on kath you help keep phantoms honest, tactician helps add to this if you can get em in arc. Predator may be a better EPT as it helps get more hits which could mean more crits = happy Kath plus if you go this route (predator and rebel captive) your action is kinda free to be what ever it needs to be such as using the evade as you won't feel locked into focusing. Your list could very well come down to just kath left and then in the end game this can be a pain for people to deal with i.e stress from captive plus you get to reroll at least one to hit die regardless plus potentially an auto evade.
Rakky Wistol is spot on about 1 agility ships but 3agility ships hate gunner, if you haven't checked out sable griffons lambda fight school 101 do your self a favour and check it out, It points out some great concepts for the use of the shuttle. I have used a list very similar to this and people did not expect to be flanked so quickly by the shuttle and turning to deal with it just opens up there flanks to the slower moving doom shuttle. That's if you happen to do a split deployment, I believe you can with this list depending on what your opponent is running of course.
I played this list in a tourney yesterday.
Bobba Fett/VI/Rebel Captive
Soontir Fel/Stealth Device/PTL
Doom Shuttle
it went 2-1, beating XXX and a 3 intercepter list but losing to a list that ran 2x defender + Soontir ... my dice rolling was horrible this game but those defenders were hard to do damage to. This highlights the weakness of a list like this... lack of firepower.
As mentioned earlier Doom Shuttle isnt as effective versus shielded targets. This list would have trouble versus Falcons but i think versus phantom lists it would be ok.
imo Rebel Captive trumps recon specialist - it really shines in the end game when they have to shoot you.
If i was to change anything with my list i think id take 2x Academy Pilot over the Doom Shuttle.
Edited by The_Brown_BomberI figure with that much potential stress and outmaneuver, Phantom and Fat Falcon lists will be better quarry than high agility or b wing lists. I definitely see what you're all saying.
I'll opt for outmaneuver and Rebel Captive, keeping stress and Doom shuttles. I've got another tourney next week, so if I fail miserably tomorrow I'll scrap, tweak, or tailor.
lettuce know how you get on!
Why Outmaneuver? It is very hard to pull off on a big ship that can't boost or barrel roll, and just to sure you know, it doesn't work in the auxiliary arc either.
For your list, I would commit to the stress control, it is a blast, so Rebel Captive is the right choice, imo. I like the look of your list quite a bit.
Try this, if you have a Phantom, that is:
Omicron Shuttle + FCS + Gunner + Tactician
Omicron Shuttle + FCS + Gunner + Tactician
Whisper + VI + ACD + Rebel Captive
That list is a blast, much better than I expected it to be.
Also, @GodlessMimicry, was the ruling of Outmaneuver in the FAQ? I didnt catch that one if it was.
Rebel captive is better than Rec Spec in that case. Otherwise, that list is just fine.
Why Outmaneuver? It is very hard to pull off on a big ship that can't boost or barrel roll, and just to sure you know, it doesn't work in the auxiliary arc either.
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Edited by bubblepopmeiFair enough then.
The tournament was fun! People had fun facing my list. I enjoyed playing it. I ended up middle of the pack but has a blast. A positive first tournament experience!
Liked it for the title first but it looks like fun but I would keep recon
rebel captive hurts b-wings, intercepters with PTL (soontir is a popular pilot) and han solo - none of these like being stressed. oh yeah and phantoms dont like stress much either ![]()