10 hours ago, 2P51 said:

I like the episode except once again for Ezra. So for 3 seasons now he's been able to deflect blaster bolts except apparently on Tatooine against sand people. Other than Ezra has regressed in his skills the last 2 episodes this one was interesting. I also liked the one hitter quitter end to Maul. I really like how the episode ended and faded to the real soundtrack.

When I get ranty about characters being made subordinate to the immediate "narrative needs", about inconsistency and incoherence, this is the sort of thing that I'm talking about. The Story "needs" Ezra to not deflect the blaster bolts, so out of the blue, he fails to deflect blaster bolts.

2 hours ago, MaxKilljoy said:

When I get ranty about characters being made subordinate to the immediate "narrative needs", about inconsistency and incoherence, this is the sort of thing that I'm talking about. The Story "needs" Ezra to not deflect the blaster bolts, so out of the blue, he fails to deflect blaster bolts.

Aren't their rifles slugthrowers? While capable of being deflected by a more skilled Jedi, perhaps this was something new for him, or they are simply more difficult to deflect?

22 minutes ago, Edgehawk said:

Aren't their rifles slugthrowers? While capable of being deflected by a more skilled Jedi, perhaps this was something new for him, or they are simply more difficult to deflect?

Depends on the source you check.

Well, they didnt have the red bolt when they were sniping the podracers in E1. I suspect that it's what the tribe can get their hands on. One might have home made slug throwers, some might have ancient carbines, some might have brand new weapons.

2 hours ago, Edgehawk said:

Aren't their rifles slugthrowers? While capable of being deflected by a more skilled Jedi, perhaps this was something new for him, or they are simply more difficult to deflect?

2 hours ago, MaxKilljoy said:

Depends on the source you check.

Every source I know of, including the movies, shows Tuskens only using slug throwers (or their Gaffi Sticks).

1 hour ago, Desslok said:

Well, they didnt have the red bolt when they were sniping the podracers in E1. I suspect that it's what the tribe can get their hands on. One might have home made slug throwers, some might have ancient carbines, some might have brand new weapons.

Being ostensibly a kids' show, I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a dose of G.I. Joe Syndrome in the mix, resulting in what appeared more like blaster bolts.

So muskets can blow up A-wings?

Well clearly he was a Heavy with a maxed out Bigger They Are signature ability.

Also, All Cars Are Pintos.

So, would you like a trailer?

The uploader has not made this video avaible in your country. So AWESOME, finally a large space battle, most likely better than the one in Rogue One. My money is on home one getting heavily damaged and thus not be ready for the battle of Scarif …

Just finally got caught up in the episodes.

Lets just say the last 2, were really low end filler episodes with huge plot holes and crappy writing.

Super spy takes over Chopper, and instead dies when Hera's says "Don't mess with my droid" and somehow overloads his entire ship without killing Chopper via Transmission.

Ezra despite being told not to, goes off on his own, falls for a trap, loses a Trainer A-wing, Chopper and Ezra almost die, and the climax is the shortest most anti-climatic lightsaber duel ever in star wars.

I was really starting to enjoy some decent Episodes in the Series and then we have these 2.

I won't get into it too much here here because i've been defending this lightsaber way too much the last week and i'm at the point that you either like it or don't. The fight was exactly what it needed to be and the perfect way to end Maul's arc. We've seen four or five super crazy fights between Maul and Obi-Wan, we didnt need another one.

Maul is older then Obi Wan, he has little driving him at this point, and he just spent a few days traversing a desert before catching up to Kenobi. He's angry and chaotic and has little control of himself and honestly has done very little to improve himself as a warrior. Meanwhile Obi Wan has ascended to master status and has spent a decade or so honing himself into a better jedi, fully in control of himself and now completely attuned to the force. Maul was nowhere near Obi-Wan's level at this point.

Plus Obi Wan's demeanor changed entirely when Maul basically told him he knew about Luke. Obi Wan as a character at this point is motivated more then any character could ever be to kill Maul as quickly as possible.

Sure, the duel is anticlimactic, but that's clearly the point, and it's a point well made.

The point of the one stroke duel is not so much that Kenobi is so good that he can beat Maul in one blow, but more that he is so badassed, so enlightened that every single permutation of the fight has already played out in Kenobi's mind. He has become such a master that he won the duel before his hand even goes to his blade.

The duel was perfect. That fight was over for a long time, Maul just hadn't died yet.....

Isn't one of what few lines in the movie he has something like "Soon we'll have our revenge"? He was still trapped in that mindset.

19 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Isn't one of what few lines in the movie he has something like "Soon we'll have our revenge"? He was still trapped in that mindset.

Yep.

"At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge."

4 hours ago, 2P51 said:

The duel was perfect. That fight was over for a long time, Maul just hadn't died yet.....

I would say that Maul actually came to die, he might have been still speaking of revenge, but he was tired, so tired of his own hate. And don't get me wrong, just because he is tired of it, does not mean that he ever was able to overcome his way of thinking, he is still looking forward to "his" revenge against the Sith, he just is tired of seeking revenge himself, he doesn't care anymore if he personally fails or success, he just want to be over.

The duel express this very good imho.

Still a filler episode and a lot less interesting than I would have hoped for, but I honestly can't complain about the resolution, just how irritating and boring it was to watch to get to this last duel.

I noticed Maul tried to use the move that he used to kill Qui-gon, but Obi-wan was expecting it. Thought that was a nice touch.

Anyone notice that at the end, when we hear the Aunt call for Luke, it is the exact same sound bit from ANH?

Also, interesting that Ezra does not bother to mention to ANYONE that Kenobi is alive. He was so insistent in the beginning of the episode and then at the end, it is if he does not even care. I get why. I just do not like how that piece of the story/character development was played out. And it does lead one to think that Ezra and Kannan do not make it to Rogue One. Sure, anything could happen, but with what is known now, it is not looking good.

2 hours ago, SEApocalypse said:

Still a filler episode and a lot less interesting than I would have hoped for, but I honestly can't complain about the resolution, just how irritating and boring it was to watch to get to this last duel.

I liked the slow pace, and the views of Tatooine. Something I missed from TCW is the epic sweeping shots that would zoom in and resolve to action. It seems with Rebels you get either the former or the latter, and lately it's been all action or tight claustrophobic shots and I was glad for the change.

4 hours ago, Steelheart said:

I noticed Maul tried to use the move that he used to kill Qui-gon, but Obi-wan was expecting it. Thought that was a nice touch.

I've seen someone suggest that Obi-Wan intentionally adopted the same lightsaber form as Qui-gon to bait Maul into using the same move. A lot of mindgames in this fight, for sure. It was nice and refreshing.

5 hours ago, Arrakus said:

Anyone notice that at the end, when we hear the Aunt call for Luke, it is the exact same sound bit from ANH?

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-producer-of-star-wars-rebels-on-tonights-incredible-1793376931

They used one of the actress's takes from the filming of A New Hope.

Oh I don't mind the Obi-wan/Maul duel. But it was anti-climatic from the Teasers for the episode. Since it is a kiddie show you really didn't see where Maul was cut... assumed it was a sucking chest wound to allow Maul to have a pseudo final redemption

I guess thats just it really. Everything these days is hype based, from the movies to pretty much everything requiring branding and hype to succeed. I think Star Wars in particular is afflicted very heavily with hype.

With that, I guess I was somewhat satisfied with two battered old men coming to meet after the war; both reaching the end of their days having never truly let go of their ways in different ways. For Obi watching over and training Luke was his own quiet redemption, for Maul the only thing that kept him going was revenge and by this point could barely clutch at a steadily thinning number of straws, thus settled with trying to kill Obi-Wan as a kind of consolation prize to utterly losing to Sidious and later Ezra. I think truly he wanted to simply die, but didn't know how to give up and felt that this revenge would give him his mojo back, if nothing more.

Both having lost everything, settled things in a modest quiet way.